Iraq : Is religion above board?

SECOND CALL FOR POSTER SAJNI: Back in March 9, before the start of the Iraq war, we had agreed to hold further discussion on Iraq until April 10, at which time we would discuss it again on the topmost article on Chowk. Since by then time would have proven whether I knew what I was talking about when I said the war would not drag on for months as you had feared, and as many chowk posters were taking for granted. And that it would be welcomed by the Iraqi people, and many chowk posters had never imagined.

So, here I am, like I said I would. (I already posted an initial call yesterday on the article that was then on the top on chowk). Any comments?

The basic motive in any war is the economic benefits. Religions are exploited to give justification and to win support. In the current Iraq war religion is not used because Bush doesn`t want to alert Muslims that he`s getting them one by one and also because Muslims don`t have any faith in Saddam as a Muslim leader.

``Is religion fully innocent, then?``

Sir, I would say..religion is the root cause of all troubles.

My God is superior to yours. The rat race amongst religions today is crazy. Especially, now between Christianity and Islam, who aspire to remain the `world`s fastest growing religions`. And hence, these two believe in converting as many people as possible, especially Christianity nowadays.
But such a religion becomes more of a business/politics and ceases to be a relgion.
Religion is something personal.

One of the reasons for the war I forgot to mention was : To divide the muslims into Shiates and Sunnis (like in Afghanistan). What do you thnk of THAT one too? :)

Religion is not be blamed. All religions preach ``Goodness``.

But the politicians who mix religion with politics are to be blamed.

The West has outgrown it after the crusades.

Presently, only the adherents of radical Islam, a small minority, tends to politicize it.

Radicalizing Hinduism is only a recent phenomenon. And I think it is a passing one.

All other issues such as Palestine, Kashmir etc are political and territorial issues.

...good rambling...

#1 by tahmed32 on April 10, 2003 7:19am PT

I think you have read the respose of people on that board to this bloodthirsty gloating on it.

Bad rambling.

Cheers.

If you read my posts carefully, you will see that there is no gloating here. I leave that to those who enjoy mudslinging without concern for the real-life problems of people. That post was in fact to keep my part of the agreement with a particular poster to continue discussion on a specified time and place.

Religion is a cheap prostitute that has always been raped.

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The left side of the brain deals with rational thinking, logic and wisdom whereas right side of the brain deals with abstract thoughts, potery, cognition, revealtion, spirituality, hallucination, schizophrenia and visions.

Religions do not exist without host - the humans. To the best of out knowledge animal kingdom and plants work by natural built-in instinct. They do not have religions. A religion only exists because of its practitioners and what people practice is their religion. Thus, it is useless to say that religions meant good and people made them bad.

Religions start like viruses specifically targeting the domains of the right side of the brain. However, like viruses, they mutate in self-preservation and overtake immunity of the left side of the brain. They start interfering and controlling left side of the brain. That is the case with major religions at present. It is life of a parasite where host are willing partners to the survival and proliferation of parasites in the body.

Parasites do work on the brain chemistry to reward its host in the form of releasing fee good chemicals. The controlled host becomes the carrier of the parasite to infect others known as proselytization. It is not an easy task though becasue the target is already infected with different kind of parasite or has strong immunity to parasites. The swords, guns, Sufis, mullahs, preachers, missionaries, music, media, providing basic services etc are used to overtake the body of the new host.

Once host dies with time, the parasites also die with it. A dead person becomes free of religious parasite, then other kind of bacteria and parasites degrade and bring an end to the dead body.

Conversions are different than hiring a host. A hired or employed person only is loyal worker to the company/ parasite, but a convert passes that loyalty to the next generation. Coversion is different than marketing any other product. The sale and marketing pitch is meant to convince an individual only but conversion passes on convincing to generations after generations. Conversion is like caste system where generations after generations remain attached to caste profession.

Pope had a visions during late 1980s that next decade would be good for the salvation of communist souls. Papa Bush and Pope soon had another visions for the salvation of oriental souls but that effort collapsed in Tian-an- Main Square. The great evangelical churches and their leaders including Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and baba-e-evangelism Billy Graham did have visions for the salvation of Indian souls.

Indian Christinaity has come long way - from nowhere to be found in the Indian Freedom Struggle to having as many as five Christian ministers in the cabinet of Narasimha Rao. India has potential to be as much as 10 percent Christian within next 50 years. During the same time period, Muslim population will rise to 16-17 percent due to the higher birth rate and most of the Sikhs will be living abroad.

The chance of Christianity succeeding in Muslim world is remote and perhaps did not play any role in the current Iraq crisis. The Christians of the middle-east, like most Christians of Kerala are Christians before most Muslims were Muslims.

Too much eye wash and not enough substance behind this war.

Ras

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SameeJB

Indian Christianity is older than Christianity in most of Europe. Indian Christians are also well represented in India`s corporate world where what counts is performance.

Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham only create problems for Indian Christians with their activities instead of helping.

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