Baghdad Lullaby II

tahmed:

Pir saheb hum nay kya khata ki hay?... is dafah aapka ilhaam ghalat nikla!...chalo wazoo karo aur sou naflaiN lagao/maro/paRho.

...t

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do you think the coalition would apologize to the Shiites for letting them down during the `91 uprising (upto 50,000 were killed by some accounts!), all because George Bush ALLOWED Saddam to fly gunships?

do you think the coalition should apologize to Irani people(not the mullah)..for allowing saddam to rain scuds on their cities, and using chemical weapons?

above all, we all know the UN was RELIGIOUSLY paying Kuwaitis war-compensation, since UNO controlled the oil-for-food program. Do you think the iranis also had some financial claims that were never paid off? can you tell us how many kuwaitis were killed vs. how many iranis?, and then how much money was released to the iranian families vs. how much money to the kuwaitis (who are rich anyway!)

Let`s condemn Saddam, plus his accomplices, including Msrs. rumsfeld and cheny..how about that?

bina:

let’s leave God out of here
he is neither here, nor there
(just everywhere)
what do you know about pain?
which pain survives for how long?
which pain outlasts ashes, dust?
my ache for the other karbala
is that real or dogma induced?
in a year or two, or ten
your pain will faint away
fade away, and if i were to ask
you will have to search the archives

...t

ps: chowk staff: twenty first century woman?

My memory fails me (maybe this is a sign !) but weren`t you the propagandist who suggested that there would be 500,000 iraqi civilians killed by the americans?


If so, where are all these dead? And by the way, when your hero Saddam was alive, did you make any public gessture of protest against his killings?

Please inform us. We need to separate out the US-phobes and america haters from the truly humanitarian folks.

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I would normally applaud such sentiments. IF you had added something here about the:

a. Of the thousands of Iraqis sent to Saddam`s torture chambers and were never seen again. (There was even a picture of an Iraqi man going through the records of a torture chamber in Basra, explaining with gestures that he was looking for records on his son who never came out).

b. Of the thousands of Iraqis who will NOT now be sent to Saddam`s torture chambers as a result of Saddam being ousted.

c. Of the children who were beaten before their parents by Saddam`s men, in order to punish the parents for opposing Saddam.

d. Of the women who were raped by Saddam`s men as a form of state punishment.

e. Of the people whose tongues were cut off because they had been heard saying something against Saddam.

f. One million Iraqis and Iranis who were killed over 10 years by the War of Saddam vs. Mullahs, in the war of the incompetents.


Or, perhaps, if there was EVER an article in Chowk, with someone weeping for the thousands of Bengali women who were raped by OUR OWN TROOPS, with the encouragement of OUR OWN GENERAL NIAZI. Yes, if you had written poems about them, I would feel this was coming from the heart. And I would then grieve the Iraqi dead with you. But as it is, this poem is just another piece in the pile of hypocrisy and inhumanity that exists among the pakistani elite. The joys and sorrows or real people mean nothing to you. You live in a world of make believe.

Now, I am sure Ferozk will jump to tell me that I have fallen on my knees to the west, as he did on another board. And some other poster will come up with other criticism. And temporal will applaud your wonderful, thoughtful poem.

To me, this just makes me sick.

thanks Bina. the pretencious victors choose to close their eyes to the reality of suffering they have caused. but they are human too and in time there will be no choice but to see.

Re: Bina

This was simply beautiful.

Today, I was reading Wilfred Owen. Owen was a war poet in the First World War, and he was also a captain in the Manchester Rifles, who was killed in the Sambre sector in 1918, about a month before armistice. The poem I was reading was titled ``an anthem for a doomed youth`` and the first line of that poem is, ``what bells pass for these, who die as cattle?``

There has to be a rememberance for all those who died. The dead must never have died in vain and as long as we remember them, ``with each setting of the sun, the age shall not weary them nor the years condemn them``.

Ciao

Best wishes!

Ciao