Aisha Sarwari April 27, 2003
#1 Posted by Paigham on April 27, 2003 4:22:10 pm
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#2 Posted by rozaiba on April 27, 2003 4:22:10 pm
thoughts and feelings seeking resolution? that`s what i got out of it.
#4 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on April 27, 2003 9:09:56 pm
Aisha - your ending was great.
``ONE``
The world needs to understand this ``ONE``.
One God, One Universe, One Earth, One human race.
``ONE``
The world needs to understand this ``ONE``.
One God, One Universe, One Earth, One human race.
#5 Posted by semipreciousme on April 27, 2003 10:41:56 pm
...aisha...this`s good...esp. liked this part:
I wish I had a hook
Behind the door to my dreams
I could hang my days on
This one place I could find them
I wish I had a hook
Behind the door to my dreams
I could hang my days on
This one place I could find them
#6 Posted by FarzanaVersey on April 28, 2003 12:37:32 am
Aisha:
I love poetry and rarely criticise such work, because I know it comes from deep within the well-springs of one`s inner self. This one has some wonderful ideas that needed to be put together better.
Having said that, I feel the main idea is about being out of the orbit and yet one with it. Within the conflict lies the conclusion...
I love poetry and rarely criticise such work, because I know it comes from deep within the well-springs of one`s inner self. This one has some wonderful ideas that needed to be put together better.
Having said that, I feel the main idea is about being out of the orbit and yet one with it. Within the conflict lies the conclusion...
#7 Posted by jay on April 28, 2003 7:19:46 am
Aisha,
I wish I had a hook to hang my head in shame
when i walked past the tomb of my name sake
samia sarwar, the girl I never cared
I wish I had a hook to hang my head in shame
when i wrote about a tomb for daniel pearl
all in the hope of being in newyork times
I wish I had a hook to hang my head in shame
when I know that I never wrote about
the killings in honour name
all per the lines i tead backwards
from a book of yeaster years.
I wish I had a hook to hang my head in shame
when i walked past the tomb of my name sake
samia sarwar, the girl I never cared
I wish I had a hook to hang my head in shame
when i wrote about a tomb for daniel pearl
all in the hope of being in newyork times
I wish I had a hook to hang my head in shame
when I know that I never wrote about
the killings in honour name
all per the lines i tead backwards
from a book of yeaster years.
#8 Posted by stuka on April 28, 2003 7:59:02 am
Actally my previous post was quite unsporting. Aisha, I do apologize.
#9 Posted by stuka on April 28, 2003 7:59:03 am
What?? No mention of Heeng eating Indians? What is this world coming to??
#10 Posted by Aisha_Sarwari on April 28, 2003 11:50:40 am
Farzana,
Thanks for your post. I have a fear of revision; I think fixing it makes my original intention of each word misconstrued. And yes, most of my writing has a point that somehow lies beneath rubble of confusion. I`m trying to make it clearer. Hope you`re well.
Stuka,
The era of my blind hate towards Indians was reactionary and just wrong. The heeng comments were not only bigoted but shallow. I`m sorry for hurting anyone in the process. Not to give excuses but, I think my inexperience with life, kept me from realizing that bigotry cannot be answered by bigotry, just as bloodstains aren`t washed with blood. The rsaxenas and jay`s of Chowk, shocked me in ways that replaced my very humanistic view of life with the realization that people are simply malicious haters who would go to any length to put you down. The ministers and ambassadors of India did it at levels that are more organized. So, for someone who just moved to the US, the last thing I expected to find was a hub of Indians who 9 out of 10 times only bashed Pakistan. Now, things are different. I`ve been taught by life that Pakistanis can also live in the past, that America can bomb anyone they like, that the only thing that matters in life is humility of your own personal mission. Having said that, I am neither disillusioned by American democracy, nor by the goodness of the common people of both our countries. Any compromise leading to peace would be a good one. Now when I look at hate mongers, like Tunku Varadarajan, Sumit Ganguly, and Indian ministers, and here the masses that Chowk houses, I see people who will eventually consume their peace of mind. They are in dire need of self-examination when they talk of Pakistan in their ignorance based on idol-obsession with geography. I know they will because I was nearly going to let it have the better of me. But then, I was 17 when I said such things, they`ve probably past their time.
PS: I still hate heeng :)
All,
Thanks for the comments.
Aisha F Sarwari
Thanks for your post. I have a fear of revision; I think fixing it makes my original intention of each word misconstrued. And yes, most of my writing has a point that somehow lies beneath rubble of confusion. I`m trying to make it clearer. Hope you`re well.
Stuka,
The era of my blind hate towards Indians was reactionary and just wrong. The heeng comments were not only bigoted but shallow. I`m sorry for hurting anyone in the process. Not to give excuses but, I think my inexperience with life, kept me from realizing that bigotry cannot be answered by bigotry, just as bloodstains aren`t washed with blood. The rsaxenas and jay`s of Chowk, shocked me in ways that replaced my very humanistic view of life with the realization that people are simply malicious haters who would go to any length to put you down. The ministers and ambassadors of India did it at levels that are more organized. So, for someone who just moved to the US, the last thing I expected to find was a hub of Indians who 9 out of 10 times only bashed Pakistan. Now, things are different. I`ve been taught by life that Pakistanis can also live in the past, that America can bomb anyone they like, that the only thing that matters in life is humility of your own personal mission. Having said that, I am neither disillusioned by American democracy, nor by the goodness of the common people of both our countries. Any compromise leading to peace would be a good one. Now when I look at hate mongers, like Tunku Varadarajan, Sumit Ganguly, and Indian ministers, and here the masses that Chowk houses, I see people who will eventually consume their peace of mind. They are in dire need of self-examination when they talk of Pakistan in their ignorance based on idol-obsession with geography. I know they will because I was nearly going to let it have the better of me. But then, I was 17 when I said such things, they`ve probably past their time.
PS: I still hate heeng :)
All,
Thanks for the comments.
Aisha F Sarwari
#11 Posted by rsaxena on April 28, 2003 5:09:05 pm
re: aisha
{The rsaxenas and jay`s of Chowk, shocked me in ways that replaced my very humanistic view of life with the realization that people are simply malicious haters}
..don`t be hating poor rsaxena...
{The rsaxenas and jay`s of Chowk, shocked me in ways that replaced my very humanistic view of life with the realization that people are simply malicious haters}
..don`t be hating poor rsaxena...
#12 Posted by TuNTuNia1 on April 28, 2003 5:09:05 pm
HAHAHA so now Aisha hates America more than she does India. She finds only Ganguly and Tinko(whoever they are, I have no idea. Cricket players?) as hateful and never a Abdul or Ahmed.
#13 Posted by Ras on April 28, 2003 10:02:35 pm
Interesting thoughts expressed in a colorful style.
We all grow up and change.
Some even for the better like Aisha here.
Ras
We all grow up and change.
Some even for the better like Aisha here.
Ras
#15 Posted by jay on April 29, 2003 9:30:40 am
Aisha
..continuation..
Yes aisha, youth is a great time, that is the period you have the spirit to challenge everything..and what did you do. You lamented the death of danial pearl, yes that is a crime in pakistan..the killer has been arrested so quickly and if i remeber he has bee sentenced to death. You are with the pak society, you are with mushy, if it is a crime for mushy it is a crime for you as well. Aisha think of the hundreds of shi docrors killed, has any one been arrested, it is a sectarian crime in pakistan, it is ok, and it is ok for you as well. You see no hatred in this.
Yesh aisha, you know the way abdus salam is treated, he learned modern science, the `christian` science, not the jinn variety of the book, and the pak society has decided that this type is no good. Yeu never dared to mention him in any of your numerous posts and rticles and poetry on chowk. Danial pearl is worth morning, not samai sarwar. You cannot see hatred in samais case, in the killing of shia doctors, in the denigration of abdus salam because you are in tune with tye pak society, you can see the purity of pak system , it evolution per the book, even divinity.
You can see hatred in my posts becuse it questions your value system, you are terrified by it, it is gainst your very being. I am proud of my posts, if it has made you see an alternate view, the very values that you so much adore, the very foundations of the socio legal system of pakistan that you mucs subscribe to, yes aisha, i hate it, and i make no apology for it.
Finally, if you have any iota of humanity in you, please post a one liner, `` killing of hindu is not jihad``. No pakistani has ever done, all that tahmed could post was that ``killing of innocent hindus is not jihad``. Who decides who is innocent , who is not, well it is left to the jihadist. Aisha, you can see no irony in it, you can see no hatred in the above jihad, and I am not waiting for that one liner from you, because your first encounter with hatred is in my posts.
..continuation..
Yes aisha, youth is a great time, that is the period you have the spirit to challenge everything..and what did you do. You lamented the death of danial pearl, yes that is a crime in pakistan..the killer has been arrested so quickly and if i remeber he has bee sentenced to death. You are with the pak society, you are with mushy, if it is a crime for mushy it is a crime for you as well. Aisha think of the hundreds of shi docrors killed, has any one been arrested, it is a sectarian crime in pakistan, it is ok, and it is ok for you as well. You see no hatred in this.
Yesh aisha, you know the way abdus salam is treated, he learned modern science, the `christian` science, not the jinn variety of the book, and the pak society has decided that this type is no good. Yeu never dared to mention him in any of your numerous posts and rticles and poetry on chowk. Danial pearl is worth morning, not samai sarwar. You cannot see hatred in samais case, in the killing of shia doctors, in the denigration of abdus salam because you are in tune with tye pak society, you can see the purity of pak system , it evolution per the book, even divinity.
You can see hatred in my posts becuse it questions your value system, you are terrified by it, it is gainst your very being. I am proud of my posts, if it has made you see an alternate view, the very values that you so much adore, the very foundations of the socio legal system of pakistan that you mucs subscribe to, yes aisha, i hate it, and i make no apology for it.
Finally, if you have any iota of humanity in you, please post a one liner, `` killing of hindu is not jihad``. No pakistani has ever done, all that tahmed could post was that ``killing of innocent hindus is not jihad``. Who decides who is innocent , who is not, well it is left to the jihadist. Aisha, you can see no irony in it, you can see no hatred in the above jihad, and I am not waiting for that one liner from you, because your first encounter with hatred is in my posts.
#16 Posted by jay on April 29, 2003 9:30:40 am
EDUCATING A PAKISTANI GIRL
``The rsaxenas and jay`s of Chowk, shocked me in ways that replaced my very humanistic view of life with the realization that people are simply malicious haters who would go to any length to put you down. The ministers and ``
Above is a quote from a post by Aisha. I am amazed that my posts are your first encounters with hatred having born and brought up in pakistan. may be you were born in lilly pads of clifton hills, fed on mills and boons, no not at all, you are from the pak education system, a true child of TNT, the k for kafir variety.
You have read about the killing of samia sarwar by her own family, the classic hate crime, the killers were never charged because of the legal system of pakistan. You cannot realise that thses very pak laws are against the very human spitit, you cannot see the violence of the legal system that nurtures and sustains crimes of this nature. I cann understand aisha, you see divinity in the pak laws, you find the will of god in tune with the book, and i see in-humanity in it. Yes, I am happy, that for the first time you have seen hatred in my posts, yes that is hatred against the legal system of pakistan, no the very veceral hatred of the father of samai sarwar who organised the killing. Yes aisha you cannot see the in-humanity of musht inviting the father to honor him, you see the mushy up-holding the revered social value of pakistan, respect for the shaeria laws.
``The rsaxenas and jay`s of Chowk, shocked me in ways that replaced my very humanistic view of life with the realization that people are simply malicious haters who would go to any length to put you down. The ministers and ``
Above is a quote from a post by Aisha. I am amazed that my posts are your first encounters with hatred having born and brought up in pakistan. may be you were born in lilly pads of clifton hills, fed on mills and boons, no not at all, you are from the pak education system, a true child of TNT, the k for kafir variety.
You have read about the killing of samia sarwar by her own family, the classic hate crime, the killers were never charged because of the legal system of pakistan. You cannot realise that thses very pak laws are against the very human spitit, you cannot see the violence of the legal system that nurtures and sustains crimes of this nature. I cann understand aisha, you see divinity in the pak laws, you find the will of god in tune with the book, and i see in-humanity in it. Yes, I am happy, that for the first time you have seen hatred in my posts, yes that is hatred against the legal system of pakistan, no the very veceral hatred of the father of samai sarwar who organised the killing. Yes aisha you cannot see the in-humanity of musht inviting the father to honor him, you see the mushy up-holding the revered social value of pakistan, respect for the shaeria laws.
#17 Posted by Urstruly on April 30, 2003 12:26:38 pm
It seems that the ``idea`` of hook is borrowed from a Nancy Friday book (I forgot which one), but then it may not be the case because Nancy used the word ``Mast``, instead of hook.
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