The Conversion Chiaroscuro

#71 tahmed 32,
i agree with you.GOD HAS CREATED WORLD AND IT``S UP TO US TO EXPLORE IT.
HE IS NOT OFFENDED BY ANY OF OUR ACTIONS.WHY SHOULD HE?BECOZ HE HAS GIVEN US SENSE TO ACT ACCORDINGLY.

I remember having taken part in an Urdu Qawaali as a part of my school function..long time ago…”Parda uth ke salaam ho jaaye ..baat ban jaye kaam ho jaaye…aye habeeb mera tujh ko salaam.. aye habeeb mera tujh ko salaam”
And I loved it, the tune, lyrics, the dress(feather wali topi), the ‘adaab style’ we did. I used to hum it the whole day long that time..remembered it for all these years to come and I now taught it to some kids in my family
My cousin was a part of the team dance in India…..an Arabic one with the mouth-covering veil dress..and a ‘dafli’ type chan..chan karta Arabic instrument
….I remember vaguely the song she used to memorise..”Aye habibi khalke-gandam, jashney yaar aya”…some wording like that…And their group got an award..
(O maybe the judges were Arabic muslims…sooooo racist..hoho)

Hohoho..maybe we have become a Muslims by doing these songs/dances…ab kya karun…hare raam hare raam..tauba tauba!!!
(nonono.. tauba is also a Muslim word…hohoho..chchch……kya bolun..what Hindu word to say instead of tauba-tauba?)

#110 rsridhar, Leela Samson is a Jew. Sonal Mansingh`s first husband was an Oriya - well, not exactly, but someone belonging to one of the royal families of Orissa, which was originally Rajput, like most royal families in eastern India - hence her surname. All Singhs aren`t Sikhs!

# 112 and all your other posts. Studebaker, why do you get so apoplectic when you talk about Hindus? It really seems as though you have something personal against them! If you feel they`re invariably weird and evil, there are other, and rational, calm, ways to hit out at them, aren`t there?

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#108, Dost-Mittar to msouza and #102, msouza:

I agree totally with msouza, particularly, in regard to Tipu. Dost-Mittar, it is kind of you to have been sensitive about your inadvertent offence though I do not believe you did any such thing. My experience with Tipu has been replete with crudities on his part. No worthwhile interaction can take place with him so I have stopped responding to his posts.

re:#92 by dost-mittar
Leela Samson sounds like a christian name. And, wasn`t Sonal Mansingh, the B.N dancer a sikh?
Sridhar

m_souza:
Tipu is upset about a brief post which he perceived to be a slight to Prophet Mohammed. In retrospect, I should have been more careful.
You and I belong to a tradition where people are not mindful of criticism or jokes about avtars as if they were mere mortals even though they are worshipped as incarnations of God . I have been on chowk long enough to have known that this is not so with the Muslims and Prophet Mohammed, even though he is supposed to be a mere mortal. When Muslims say they do not worship the Prophet, they only mean that they do not perform sajda to him; their devotion to their Prophet is much more intense than the devotion of the Christians to their Lord Jesus or of the Hindus to their Lord Ram, Krishna and other avtars. One ought to be extremely careful, which I was not, in order not to offend.

Farzana, it`s too bad you killed it so quickly. It`s a good debate...oh, well, maybe some other time. Be well.

godot (#99):
If one has a pre-meditated destination in mind, then a path works. But if discovery is the goal, then one cannot walk on the straight road and count milestones. One would veer towards unknown territory. Since one has chosen it, it cannot make you miserable. Does it bring solace? That depends on what one finds. Sometimes, what we have and that we call stability causes us more misery.

This thread will be out soon...so thank you for engaging me in an `off-the-beaten-track` dialogue:)

Ref Meen-kari-kuzhambu #100

[Harimau:
I cannot decide which is worse: your reading comprehension or your crudeness in refering to Farzana the you have been.]

EVERYBODY, at least mostly everybody, gets a moniker from me. Farzana, depending on the context, is FartsAnna, Impacted Wisdom Tooth, etc. I myself have been called HaramiOu and I accept that with a smile.

As to deciding which is worse, you might want to refer to Doctor Artist Leader`s latest publication, an explanation of Tolkappiyam. If that book on Tamil grammar doesn`t explain everything in the universe as it is supposed to, you should then consult Father Big Man`s political writings for the sneakiness and snake-iness of brahmins.

[You`re a coward to hide behind the anonymity of the board while making fun of her name.]

Are we to presume that your parents named you Soysauce? That is entirely within the realm of possibility and I presume your sister is named Ketchup. That would be a tough choice, wouldn`t it; having to choose between Ketchup and Tamil Arasi?

Ref Karuvattu-kuzhambu #100

[#78 rsridhar
... Since even a student could observe the apparent effects of close marriage, it surely must have been studied with respect to tamils & brahmins. Why don`t you post something to that effect?]

Hey, you are the one who said that consanguinous marriages are common among Tamil brahmins. It is up to you to prove it.

Clue for the Clueless: Try a google search and see what you can find.

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dost mittar ji

I feel no amount of your rational thinking or your polite explanations will go into the heads like Tipu etc..because they don`t want it to. They just can`t see what you are trying to say

If you give an example of some nice Indira Rehman and how she balanced her life with her secualar attitude..then this Tipu assumes you are telling all muslims to do bharatnatyam..
This is the major `defect` in their attitude..as long as it remains..nothing can be done about anything..
Anyway..keep trying..

Re: Farzana, 98

Yes, but it`s also known and predictable. There are enough problems in life as it is. Why
make life miserable? At times boring is good and healthy, skipping a beat means you have a deadly heart poblem. Straying off the beaten path does not necessarily brings solace. The path has emerged for good reasons.