The Follies of the Natives

=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts

=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts

FR Khan:
Will you respond to the following?

Your frustration beats around the bush. You should have pointed out the real problem with Pakistan.

I am from India and I assert that Pakistan would never ``progress`` till it declares it self as a true democracy. The quintessential element of ANY democracy IS SECULARISM.

It is this fundamental premise of civilized existence that is not fulfilled by Pakistan. Hence, all the missteps which are documented by you, are recorded history and I completely concur with you.

BUT YOU NEED TO SEPARATE RATIONAL ANALYSIS FROM EMOTIONAL OUTBURST.

=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts

An excellent overview of the role of politicians, military, Islam and judiciary in creating the quagmire, thinking Pakistanis find themselves in. However, resilience of the people of the region called Pakistan now is grossly understimated because their potentials have been undermined temporarily by the overlordships of rodents magnified as sacred cows.

it is inherent in the nature of politicians, military and Islam to be on the offensive for defensive and survival purposes. None of these pillars can be in defensive mode for their defense becuase of the fear of exposition of weaknesses built in them. The weaknesses are so true that no chowk interactor has ever been able to challenge them when brought about by hamidm or somebody else. All they can do is to relegate to personal attack and verbal abuse or filabuster with useless unrelated material obtained from sifting through heap of electronic garbage.

In a strange way, I feel the last thirty years of Pakistan had expedited the coming demise of military-bureaucracy-judiaciary-feudal politics-Islam nexus. The pillars without foundations can not stand forever and permanent offensive mode is consuming them faster than under natural circumstances. Like bacteria, they proliferate and then consume each other. The process of consuming their own for survival and clash among the components of the nexus is just begining. The process would be bloody, bad for Pakistan and bad for economy, yet better than worst possible outcome of going Pakistan to dogs or Talibans.

Pakistan might have to go a harsh phase of authoritative communism to get out of stranglehold of elite groups. Mark my words. Just wait and see. I give you a clue. It will start with massacres of large mumber of people from one elite group - the weakest of the elite group. My second clue is: plot mumber of Pakistanis going to hajj each year. Once it starts declining, begining of the end of current elite groups is begining.

=== Interact Filtered ===
view this users filtered interacts

Hi Feroz

good article:) i feel the frustration too!

F.R.Khan: are you of Mohajjir persuassion in the biblical kind.

Your kind ,the Mohajir, who failed to defend the Kingdom of Oudh when Delhi was falling; the haves and have nots of Lucknow were busy flying the ``Tukul`` and ``Guddi` whilst the majority of East Indian Army was beseiged in Residency. And you the Mohajirs come to Pakistan, assisted by the militants of Bihar, and try to assert yourself as a force to reckon with, while you and you forefathers aided and abetted the East Indian Company to overrun the Kingdom of Oudh and Delhi..yet you claim your moral superiority when you land in Punjab and Sind , lands predominantly, headed by Aryans, Jats and Gujjars and not by the Sayyeds, and the Darvadians who had fled thousands of years ago