Dost Mittar June 25, 2003
#38 Posted by Godot on June 27, 2003 7:04:36 pm
Re: tahmed, #37
Yes, I`m a race-car driver tryining to over-take tanga-wallas...and, oh, man it sucks...
No, I don`t feel like a race-horse rejected...but ejected prematurely...now that sucks...
Yes, I`m a race-car driver tryining to over-take tanga-wallas...and, oh, man it sucks...
No, I don`t feel like a race-horse rejected...but ejected prematurely...now that sucks...
#37 Posted by tahmed32 on June 27, 2003 5:29:29 pm
urstruly #35 I see that you are trying to worm your way into godot`s good books by projecting your marital problems, not to mention your cheapness.
i understand you took your wife out to Mcdonalds for your tenth wedding anniversary, and then ordered a single small pack of french fries, saying to her ``kha ja! kha ja! paisayuN di purvah na kar!``.
and i hear that you are so cheap you go to bed at 7 pm in order to save on electricity.
i also understand that your idea of a night out to the movie with your wife is to stand with her for two hours next to the neighbor`s window, watching the movie they have on TV.
you think godot is impressed by you and thinks you are not a mediocrity like the rest of us? think again. this article of his that failed to make it on chowk (this is as humiliating for a Great Writer as a race car driver failing to pass the learner`s test) was titled: ``Urstruly: A Mediocrity among Mediocrities``. Chowk editors took pity on both of you and refused to publish it. Godot feels like a racehorse who has been rejected even by the rawalpindi tonga walas. Imagine how Shakespeare would have felt if Hamlet had been rejected by Chowk!! That is how godot feels. And he knows all this i am writing is very mediocre attempts at being funny.
i understand you took your wife out to Mcdonalds for your tenth wedding anniversary, and then ordered a single small pack of french fries, saying to her ``kha ja! kha ja! paisayuN di purvah na kar!``.
and i hear that you are so cheap you go to bed at 7 pm in order to save on electricity.
i also understand that your idea of a night out to the movie with your wife is to stand with her for two hours next to the neighbor`s window, watching the movie they have on TV.
you think godot is impressed by you and thinks you are not a mediocrity like the rest of us? think again. this article of his that failed to make it on chowk (this is as humiliating for a Great Writer as a race car driver failing to pass the learner`s test) was titled: ``Urstruly: A Mediocrity among Mediocrities``. Chowk editors took pity on both of you and refused to publish it. Godot feels like a racehorse who has been rejected even by the rawalpindi tonga walas. Imagine how Shakespeare would have felt if Hamlet had been rejected by Chowk!! That is how godot feels. And he knows all this i am writing is very mediocre attempts at being funny.
#36 Posted by Godot on June 27, 2003 3:46:19 pm
Re: Urstruly, #35
Chowk exercises no discretion as far as the quality of articles is concerned that it puts on the front page. There appears to be no rhyme or reason as to what gets published. The Chowk’s approach to publishing articles appears to be ad hoc, haphazard, temperamental, and without a thought
If there is a method to the madness in publishing an article at Chowk, it appears to be two-prong: 1) Does the author personally know the Chowk editors or the editors have a soft spot for the author, if yes, then never mind the article, just publish it pronto; 2) Would the article make the readers act as a bunch of morons, if yes, then publish it pronto. Everybody else has to take a backseat and wait depending on what the editors were smoking when they read your article. If they feel good, you are in (that can take two days to two years), otherwise you can take a hike, never mind the fact that the not-favorite writer has wasted all of his/her time for something he/she is not even going to get paid!!!
Scanning the front page of Chowk, it’s quite obvious that Chowk editors play favorites. What matters to them is not what but who gets published; ergo, what gets published has very little to do with the quality of writing.
Is it any wonder that many good writers have left Chowk, and the readership is stuck at about 70-odd people? And it weren’t for the Unplugg, even that number would probably dwindle down to about 8 people.
It is a safe bet that most readers don’t even read the articles at Chowk anymore; they just click on the responses to read what an interactor is saying, and the interaction begins that rarely has anything to do with the article. The “Hits” for the article, then, are elusively deceiving: more hits do not mean that readers are bothering to read the article, but reflect a curiosity as to what interactors are saying to each other, this board being a case in point.
Dost-mittar is a favorite writer. You are not. Good luck.
Chowk exercises no discretion as far as the quality of articles is concerned that it puts on the front page. There appears to be no rhyme or reason as to what gets published. The Chowk’s approach to publishing articles appears to be ad hoc, haphazard, temperamental, and without a thought
If there is a method to the madness in publishing an article at Chowk, it appears to be two-prong: 1) Does the author personally know the Chowk editors or the editors have a soft spot for the author, if yes, then never mind the article, just publish it pronto; 2) Would the article make the readers act as a bunch of morons, if yes, then publish it pronto. Everybody else has to take a backseat and wait depending on what the editors were smoking when they read your article. If they feel good, you are in (that can take two days to two years), otherwise you can take a hike, never mind the fact that the not-favorite writer has wasted all of his/her time for something he/she is not even going to get paid!!!
Scanning the front page of Chowk, it’s quite obvious that Chowk editors play favorites. What matters to them is not what but who gets published; ergo, what gets published has very little to do with the quality of writing.
Is it any wonder that many good writers have left Chowk, and the readership is stuck at about 70-odd people? And it weren’t for the Unplugg, even that number would probably dwindle down to about 8 people.
It is a safe bet that most readers don’t even read the articles at Chowk anymore; they just click on the responses to read what an interactor is saying, and the interaction begins that rarely has anything to do with the article. The “Hits” for the article, then, are elusively deceiving: more hits do not mean that readers are bothering to read the article, but reflect a curiosity as to what interactors are saying to each other, this board being a case in point.
Dost-mittar is a favorite writer. You are not. Good luck.
#35 Posted by Urstruly on June 27, 2003 12:36:56 pm
Godot
Yaar, these chowk people have not published my article yet either which I submitted a millenium ago. I am sick and tired of their mediocrity. Dost mitter is mediocre too but at least he got published. tahmad on the other hand is cheap. Last week he got into a quarrel with his wife and when she nagged him to death he prayed ``Rabba meiN ais zindgi tuN tang aa gaya waaN meinu chuk lay (God I am sick and tired of this life; take my life).
His wife said ``Rabba meiN vi ais zindgi tuN tang aa gaee aaN meinu chuk lay (God I am sick and tired of this life too; take my life too).
tahmad sahib immediately said ``Rabba plz accepts her prayers``
Yaar, these chowk people have not published my article yet either which I submitted a millenium ago. I am sick and tired of their mediocrity. Dost mitter is mediocre too but at least he got published. tahmad on the other hand is cheap. Last week he got into a quarrel with his wife and when she nagged him to death he prayed ``Rabba meiN ais zindgi tuN tang aa gaya waaN meinu chuk lay (God I am sick and tired of this life; take my life).
His wife said ``Rabba meiN vi ais zindgi tuN tang aa gaee aaN meinu chuk lay (God I am sick and tired of this life too; take my life too).
tahmad sahib immediately said ``Rabba plz accepts her prayers``
#34 Posted by stuka on June 27, 2003 11:51:44 am
Uurstruly:
``I am pro-Khalistan. As a matter of fact it is my core beleif that the only way to save Paksitan from Hindu religious nuts who are currently ruling the country, Pitribhumi freaks, and akhand bharat nutcases is to create a vibrant, self-sufficient, and Paksitan friendly Khalistan in Indian Punjab and Chandigar etc. ``
Well, I am glad to see that you at least acknowledge self interest of Pakistan in supporting Kkhalistan. I don`t think you realize that Khalistan as a hypothetical state is meant to have Lahore as its capital. Chandigarh is barely 30 years old. Lahore is the eternal capital of the Sikhs and the seat of Maharaja Ranjit Singh.
``The hijacking and destruction of INdian airliner was a great tragedy and the way the Indians and Indian government pursued to bring the perpetrators of this tragedy to justice in Canada, is commendable. However, they should have persued to bring to justice the perpetrators of genoocide of Sikhs in `80 with the same fervor as well, but instead all those genocidal maniacs were given special amnesty from the government last year. This is the stuff Khalistans are made of. ``
This is the truth. However bitter it may sound, there is no denying the veracity of this statement. BTW, the amnesty was given to cops of Punjab Police, who are about as genocidal as the Punjabi cops in Karachi. The people who should have been prosecuted are the Congressis respponsible for the 84 riots.
``I am pro-Khalistan. As a matter of fact it is my core beleif that the only way to save Paksitan from Hindu religious nuts who are currently ruling the country, Pitribhumi freaks, and akhand bharat nutcases is to create a vibrant, self-sufficient, and Paksitan friendly Khalistan in Indian Punjab and Chandigar etc. ``
Well, I am glad to see that you at least acknowledge self interest of Pakistan in supporting Kkhalistan. I don`t think you realize that Khalistan as a hypothetical state is meant to have Lahore as its capital. Chandigarh is barely 30 years old. Lahore is the eternal capital of the Sikhs and the seat of Maharaja Ranjit Singh.
``The hijacking and destruction of INdian airliner was a great tragedy and the way the Indians and Indian government pursued to bring the perpetrators of this tragedy to justice in Canada, is commendable. However, they should have persued to bring to justice the perpetrators of genoocide of Sikhs in `80 with the same fervor as well, but instead all those genocidal maniacs were given special amnesty from the government last year. This is the stuff Khalistans are made of. ``
This is the truth. However bitter it may sound, there is no denying the veracity of this statement. BTW, the amnesty was given to cops of Punjab Police, who are about as genocidal as the Punjabi cops in Karachi. The people who should have been prosecuted are the Congressis respponsible for the 84 riots.
#33 Posted by tahmed32 on June 27, 2003 11:40:12 am
stuka #26 just passing time, buddy, as you said. ;-) i am indeed ageing rapidly after writing all these posts on chowk and will soon need to join an old folks` home...
#32 Posted by tahmed32 on June 27, 2003 10:42:39 am
godot #30 you say of my post that ``it`s way below average.``
sob! et tu godot? man, i am so mediocre i cant even write an average post on chowk.
sob! et tu godot? man, i am so mediocre i cant even write an average post on chowk.
#31 Posted by dost_mittar on June 27, 2003 10:22:34 am
Urstruly#27
This write-up is not for or against Khalistan. And yes, I agree that justice has not been done to the victims of anti-sikh riots in India.
This write-up is not for or against Khalistan. And yes, I agree that justice has not been done to the victims of anti-sikh riots in India.
#30 Posted by Godot on June 27, 2003 10:22:34 am
Re: dost-mittar, #23
That Chowk is populated with very ordinary and mediocrity is the norm is not news to me. I`m glad that you have ``most important ideas``, and apparently one of the few writers at Chowk with the most. Everyone thinks his/her ideas are most important. However, what I`m questioning is the selection criteria at Chowk.
Re: tahmed, #24
Get a grip. Your post, contrary to what you are trying to be, is not only not-funny, it`s way below average. Now, close that garage door and stay inside before you make a further fool of yourself.
That Chowk is populated with very ordinary and mediocrity is the norm is not news to me. I`m glad that you have ``most important ideas``, and apparently one of the few writers at Chowk with the most. Everyone thinks his/her ideas are most important. However, what I`m questioning is the selection criteria at Chowk.
Re: tahmed, #24
Get a grip. Your post, contrary to what you are trying to be, is not only not-funny, it`s way below average. Now, close that garage door and stay inside before you make a further fool of yourself.
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#27 Posted by stuka on June 27, 2003 9:54:27 am
TAhmed:
``The rest of us can only read your posts in Shock and Awe. ``
:) You kill me, man!! Waisey, when I joined Chowk, I thought you were an old man. I guess coz you were always so polite and considerate and would admonish anyone else who was not. (remember the running feud between me and Ali#1) But now I think you are probably in your 40s.
``The rest of us can only read your posts in Shock and Awe. ``
:) You kill me, man!! Waisey, when I joined Chowk, I thought you were an old man. I guess coz you were always so polite and considerate and would admonish anyone else who was not. (remember the running feud between me and Ali#1) But now I think you are probably in your 40s.
#26 Posted by Urstruly on June 27, 2003 9:54:27 am
I am pro-Khalistan. As a matter of fact it is my core beleif that the only way to save Paksitan from Hindu religious nuts who are currently ruling the country, Pitribhumi freaks, and akhand bharat nutcases is to create a vibrant, self-sufficient, and Paksitan friendly Khalistan in Indian Punjab and Chandigar etc. In near future when the great war will break out between Iran and others, Indian oppressed Kashmir will definitely be annexed by Paksitan. The creation of Khalistan will close any corridor to the Kashmir in future. Also a strong Khalistan will provide the necessary strategic depth to Paksitan.
The hijacking and destruction of INdian airliner was a great tragedy and the way the Indians and Indian government pursued to bring the perpetrators of this tragedy to justice in Canada, is commendable. However, they should have persued to bring to justice the perpetrators of genoocide of Sikhs in `80 with the same fervor as well, but instead all those genocidal maniacs were given special amnesty from the government last year. This is the stuff Khalistans are made of.
#25 Posted by anil on June 27, 2003 9:32:01 am
Farzana:
Could you let me know the name of Hindi poet who wrote these beautiful lines:
``Madhuban khushboo deta hai, sagar saawan deta hai
Jeena uska jeena hai, jo auron ko jeevan deta hai...
Suraj na ban paaye tau banke deepak jalta chal
Phool miley ya angaarey sach ki raah pe chalta chal
Pyaar dilon ko deta hai, ashkon ko daaman deta hai
Jeena uska jeena hai jo auron ko jeevan deta hai.``
From Silicon Valley, I`m launching a campaign for South Asian Bone Marrow / Stem - Cell donor data bank for ``donate stem-cells donate life``. I would like to use this appropriate poem.
Thank you.
ANIL KAPURIA
Could you let me know the name of Hindi poet who wrote these beautiful lines:
``Madhuban khushboo deta hai, sagar saawan deta hai
Jeena uska jeena hai, jo auron ko jeevan deta hai...
Suraj na ban paaye tau banke deepak jalta chal
Phool miley ya angaarey sach ki raah pe chalta chal
Pyaar dilon ko deta hai, ashkon ko daaman deta hai
Jeena uska jeena hai jo auron ko jeevan deta hai.``
From Silicon Valley, I`m launching a campaign for South Asian Bone Marrow / Stem - Cell donor data bank for ``donate stem-cells donate life``. I would like to use this appropriate poem.
Thank you.
ANIL KAPURIA
#24 Posted by tahmed32 on June 27, 2003 8:58:38 am
godot #21 to dost mittar, ``Unlike for me, you have tons of Chowkies who sympathize with you.``
Worry not, Oh Noble Godot. Here is one Chowkie (not weighing tons though) who sympathizes with you. It must be so upsetting to have to associates will all of us mediocrites on chowk. Man, I am so mediocre I keep running into glass panes thinking I can go through them. In fact I am so mediocre when someone knocks at the door, I knock back in response. If the person knocks again, I knock back again. One day I became so mediocre that I started knocking at the front door from the inside even when no one was knocking outside. My wife asked me why I was knocking on the front door from the inside, I said I was trying to get it to open.
Another time I became so mediocre, I opened used the automatic garage door opener and almost fainted - the car was gone! I told this to my wife, and she said that I would find the car in the garage as soon as I drove it into the garage and stepped out of it. Man, did I feel like a mediocrity that time (this is true in fact).
Anywhere, it is an honor to have a brilliant individual like you on chowk. The rest of us can only read your posts in Shock and Awe.
Worry not, Oh Noble Godot. Here is one Chowkie (not weighing tons though) who sympathizes with you. It must be so upsetting to have to associates will all of us mediocrites on chowk. Man, I am so mediocre I keep running into glass panes thinking I can go through them. In fact I am so mediocre when someone knocks at the door, I knock back in response. If the person knocks again, I knock back again. One day I became so mediocre that I started knocking at the front door from the inside even when no one was knocking outside. My wife asked me why I was knocking on the front door from the inside, I said I was trying to get it to open.
Another time I became so mediocre, I opened used the automatic garage door opener and almost fainted - the car was gone! I told this to my wife, and she said that I would find the car in the garage as soon as I drove it into the garage and stepped out of it. Man, did I feel like a mediocrity that time (this is true in fact).
Anywhere, it is an honor to have a brilliant individual like you on chowk. The rest of us can only read your posts in Shock and Awe.
#23 Posted by dost_mittar on June 27, 2003 8:55:40 am
godot#21
Chowk`s stated motto is a place where ideas and identities intersect. I think that you would agree that not everyone with an idea will have superior literary skills (if one does, it will, of course, be `sone pe suhaaga`). Some of the most important ideas and discussions take place in academic journals and most of the articles there would never get published if they insisted upon a high level of literary skills. What is important, however, is that the idea or ideas are presented and discussed in a clear, cogent and comprehsible manner.
Chowk`s stated motto is a place where ideas and identities intersect. I think that you would agree that not everyone with an idea will have superior literary skills (if one does, it will, of course, be `sone pe suhaaga`). Some of the most important ideas and discussions take place in academic journals and most of the articles there would never get published if they insisted upon a high level of literary skills. What is important, however, is that the idea or ideas are presented and discussed in a clear, cogent and comprehsible manner.
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