Shahid Mahmood June 25, 2003
#5 Posted by harish_hyd on June 27, 2003 12:15:17 am
#3 by Romair on June 26, 2003 11:09am PT
[All wars should be made to pass through the litmus test of human rights.]
Like the war your great Army waged against the Bangladeshis in 1971? By the way, I`d be very interested in knowing if you were serving then, and if you were posted there.
[All wars should be made to pass through the litmus test of human rights.]
Like the war your great Army waged against the Bangladeshis in 1971? By the way, I`d be very interested in knowing if you were serving then, and if you were posted there.
#4 Posted by Tipu on June 26, 2003 11:09:45 am
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#3 Posted by Romair on June 26, 2003 11:09:44 am
Very nicely argued. I couldn`t agree with you more.
The Canadians, I think, have done a decent job of maintaining a neutral and relatively moral stance in all of this. The key to solving these problems of the current, ``us vs. them,`` lies in Europe. The sudden wave of European common person`s opposition to Bush`s actions in Iraq was surprising. It has turned the whole Clash of Civilisations debate on its head.
The US populace is too brainwashed to be able to make moral decisions on its foreign policy. Americans are moral people at a personal level, but are unwilling to challenge the immorality of their nation at a public level. Europeans, now, seem to be moral in both spheres. Thus Europeans are the key. They need to keep the pressure on the OBLs and Bushs of the world and keep them bound.
Bush`s approval ratings will only go up every time the USA goes to war. This has been a historic truth for the American Presidents. The only time ratings go down in a US war, is never due to the immorality of the war, it is when a lot of US soldiers get killed (like Vietnam). The USA will now only go into wars, where hardly any American will get killed. However, morality will never be the criteria.
Luckily, the European leaders ratings, across the board have gone down, for supporting unjust wars. If Tony Blair`s party loses the next election, dut to hoodwinking his country into the Iraq war, this whole process will be set in stone. From that point onwards, all of the US cheerleaders will have to think ten times before going to war.
At the same time, the Muslims of the world need to keep pressure on the OBLs and keep them isolated.
All wars should be made to pass through the litmus test of human rights. The only legal wars are for self-defence if attacked, against occupational forces, etc. And they should only be targeted against soldiers and not civlians. OBL`s attack on the USA and the USA`s attack on Iraq, both fail on all these three accounts. The world is a more dangerous place after both these attacks.......
The Canadians, I think, have done a decent job of maintaining a neutral and relatively moral stance in all of this. The key to solving these problems of the current, ``us vs. them,`` lies in Europe. The sudden wave of European common person`s opposition to Bush`s actions in Iraq was surprising. It has turned the whole Clash of Civilisations debate on its head.
The US populace is too brainwashed to be able to make moral decisions on its foreign policy. Americans are moral people at a personal level, but are unwilling to challenge the immorality of their nation at a public level. Europeans, now, seem to be moral in both spheres. Thus Europeans are the key. They need to keep the pressure on the OBLs and Bushs of the world and keep them bound.
Bush`s approval ratings will only go up every time the USA goes to war. This has been a historic truth for the American Presidents. The only time ratings go down in a US war, is never due to the immorality of the war, it is when a lot of US soldiers get killed (like Vietnam). The USA will now only go into wars, where hardly any American will get killed. However, morality will never be the criteria.
Luckily, the European leaders ratings, across the board have gone down, for supporting unjust wars. If Tony Blair`s party loses the next election, dut to hoodwinking his country into the Iraq war, this whole process will be set in stone. From that point onwards, all of the US cheerleaders will have to think ten times before going to war.
At the same time, the Muslims of the world need to keep pressure on the OBLs and keep them isolated.
All wars should be made to pass through the litmus test of human rights. The only legal wars are for self-defence if attacked, against occupational forces, etc. And they should only be targeted against soldiers and not civlians. OBL`s attack on the USA and the USA`s attack on Iraq, both fail on all these three accounts. The world is a more dangerous place after both these attacks.......
#2 Posted by veeresh on June 26, 2003 9:32:03 am
Education.
Only about 180 years ago, the scholar Ahmad Baba of Timbuctou on the River Niger could count thousands of book in his library when European scholars counted them in dozens?
What happened?
Only about 180 years ago, the scholar Ahmad Baba of Timbuctou on the River Niger could count thousands of book in his library when European scholars counted them in dozens?
What happened?
#1 Posted by Tipu on June 26, 2003 7:13:26 am
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