Madiha Waris June 27, 2003
#1 Posted by tainted on June 27, 2003 11:40:12 am
I totally agree. But then there are also those families where girls are trained for marriage at early ages, and the only thing thats drilled into their heads is marriage. Education`s given secondary importance, doing Inter is considered more than enough (Too much knowledge corrupts the mind you see). Some of these girls have no will to study further, coz their whole lifestyle is developed around the idea of marriage. To people who believe otherwise it seems wrong and a modern form of torture, but to girls who have only seen their sisters and cousins getting engaged and married at early ages, it seems the only way of life.
#2 Posted by temporal on June 27, 2003 11:40:21 am
dear unknown writer:
early marriage is one thing...early parenthood another!
...t
early marriage is one thing...early parenthood another!
...t
#3 Posted by Syd on June 27, 2003 1:29:44 pm
Everyone must get a chance to live a life of their own, for some time. Such a life where they can explore their own identity. For the rest of the life has to be spent in some sort of shackle or the other.
#4 Posted by rizvi on June 27, 2003 3:46:19 pm
wow talk about a fusty piece .. times have changed .. i guess it reflects your priorities as an induvidual .. the blame on parents or the couples is totally uncalled for ..then again circumstances have a day of their own .. and you sure didnt help her .
#5 Posted by Pakfin on June 27, 2003 3:46:19 pm
I guess that like everything else, people need to strike a balance in the case of the right age to get married. Just as too youn is not a good age, get married at too late an age may have its own issues.
#6 Posted by cherry on June 27, 2003 5:29:29 pm
[But for all those parents who airily inform their daughters that they can always continue with the studies after they get married, an eye-opener: For girls, marriage brings solid responsibility. This often not just includes being a companion to her husband in thick and thin and caring for their home, but also of the entire family she`s marrying into. Not negating in anyway the wonders of married life; it`s very presumptuous and almost cruel to expect a girl to juggle yet another task before all these.]
somebody tell my parents this. :p
[Everyone must get a chance to live a life of their own, for some time. Such a life where they can explore their own identity. For the rest of the life has to be spent in some sort of shackle or the other. ]
i agree whole heartedly. cant imagine anyone wanting to give up all forms of freedoms/enjoyments to be `shackled` to a nagging wife and worrying about getting home on time and money matters etc. etc. (this is from a guy`s perspective).
temporal:
for females...such as the type tainted mentioned...early marriages are synonymous wid parenthood. u dig?
somebody tell my parents this. :p
[Everyone must get a chance to live a life of their own, for some time. Such a life where they can explore their own identity. For the rest of the life has to be spent in some sort of shackle or the other. ]
i agree whole heartedly. cant imagine anyone wanting to give up all forms of freedoms/enjoyments to be `shackled` to a nagging wife and worrying about getting home on time and money matters etc. etc. (this is from a guy`s perspective).
temporal:
for females...such as the type tainted mentioned...early marriages are synonymous wid parenthood. u dig?
#7 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on June 27, 2003 10:03:03 pm
Each case is different. Above 18 should be OK.
Few examples necessitating an earky marriage:
Father/mother very sick - about to conk off.
A good rishta.
Girl has fallen in love.
Girl is falling in bad company.
Girl is becomin a nuisance at home - having those fits of puberty confusion.
And as Tehmed32 pointed out, not interested in any more studies.
#8 Posted by Studebaker on June 27, 2003 10:03:03 pm
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#9 Posted by Ansari on June 27, 2003 11:56:06 pm
Good article, Madiha. Yes, it`s often disappointing to a see promising young women trundled away into marriage before her education is complete. I think a lot of this has to do with seeing girls as a liability in our society. It`s jahaalat all over again.
#10 Posted by slink on June 28, 2003 12:14:42 am
can one ever really be ready for marraige? i think not. thats just the nature of the beast. also, there are a lot of women/girls who do continue with their education after marriage. of course, they`re the lucky ones who manage to find relatively enlightened men.
i think the strongest bit of this article was the beginning, when the writer explored her feelings about her friend as a mother. one hopes she will benefit from her own insights and use them to explore her own thought process further rather than go off into generalizations. thoough generalizations can be a whole lot of fun, thats one thing marriage doesn`t change.
shandana
i think the strongest bit of this article was the beginning, when the writer explored her feelings about her friend as a mother. one hopes she will benefit from her own insights and use them to explore her own thought process further rather than go off into generalizations. thoough generalizations can be a whole lot of fun, thats one thing marriage doesn`t change.
shandana
#11 Posted by Sobia on June 28, 2003 8:15:23 am
good article. i don`t know what life would`ve been like if i had been married at such a young age as your friend...i don`t know how different i would`ve been, but i do know i would`ve regretted not experiencing having a career,making my own money, going to college, to university, having fun with girlfriends, having my heart broken and then repaired...ALL ON MY OWN. The lessons I learnt from these experiences have made me the person I am today, and I wouldn`t want to change that for anything or anyone. I think it`s essential for every man and woman to experience youth because it goes away too soon. Madiha, you`re right; a lot of well-to-do so called progressive families marry their daughters off early when they should be providing them with education and with the skills to deal with life on their own. But i also think this is a mindset our girls are drilled with; they think their only destiny is marriage. I`m not anti-marriage, I think it can be a beautiful bond if the time and person is right, but I don`t believe it is the be all and the end all of life. It shudn`t be rushed into and it certainly should not be a woman`s only identity. Unfortunately, a lot of Pakistani women only go to college to pass time because they`re waiting to get married...I`m not putting anyone down; a lot of girls are not even given the choice to decide who they want to marry, let alone when. But I do blame the parents and I blame the society on the whole. And most of all, I blame the women who let this mindset exist and who perpetuate it, particularly the aunties and nanis and khalas etc etc who think a girl is only ``marriagable`` if 18, and God help her if she actually gets an education and that, too, outside of Pakistan...shudder..what a first class liability she would be! She will have opinions of her own..gasp..she will talk back..she will want to work and ..gulp..worst of all, she will not discuss with the inlaws when she wants to have babies...anyway, good article, i think it touches on a v important topic of our days.
#12 Posted by rsaxena on June 28, 2003 8:15:24 am
{can one ever really be ready for marraige? }
...for some people, marriage provides an identity and purpose in life...
...for some people, marriage provides an identity and purpose in life...
#13 Posted by stuka on June 28, 2003 9:03:03 am
I think Slink is correct here..
``can one ever really be ready for marraige? ``
In this article, the bigger impediment to this girl`s educational and professional progression seems to be the kid rather than marriage itself.
``can one ever really be ready for marraige? ``
In this article, the bigger impediment to this girl`s educational and professional progression seems to be the kid rather than marriage itself.
#14 Posted by zephyr on June 28, 2003 10:58:00 am
parenthood is part of the package for pakistani females
two years of marriage, no kids, oh my God there`s something terribly wrong with her!get her out of here- common attitude
this girl i know was kicked out of susraaal because her parents were marrying her sister off to the husband`s step brother, they didnt like that.told her to get the wedding off and then come back
you see, it`s not just the kids, kids are probably the Good part for most. it`s the dawn of responsibility of people OTHER than yourself thats the problem, and trust me, husbands can be a shit load more than babies to handle responsibility of sometimes. not a lot of females, pakistani females, have the energy left to continue with their progression. reality check, look around you, the middle class, the lower class, the middle class.
two years of marriage, no kids, oh my God there`s something terribly wrong with her!get her out of here- common attitude
this girl i know was kicked out of susraaal because her parents were marrying her sister off to the husband`s step brother, they didnt like that.told her to get the wedding off and then come back
you see, it`s not just the kids, kids are probably the Good part for most. it`s the dawn of responsibility of people OTHER than yourself thats the problem, and trust me, husbands can be a shit load more than babies to handle responsibility of sometimes. not a lot of females, pakistani females, have the energy left to continue with their progression. reality check, look around you, the middle class, the lower class, the middle class.
#15 Posted by meet_taimoor on June 28, 2003 10:58:00 am
A very important issue raised up in this article! I can`t agree more on this point with Madiha. Marriage is an important component of the culture, resulting into families which are the basic building blocks of societies. These days it is an essence that both the partners take equal part in the decision making process for the family. If the wife lacks sound education and insight into life-matters, how can she contribute to the process? Everybody should have a right to decide his/her own life.. when he/she had enough of free and independent life and when he/she is ready for the responsibilities of married life. But one should not delay that too, as to distort this basic block of society. Bravo Madiha!! for such a good article.
#16 Posted by SameerJB on June 28, 2003 10:58:00 am
I think marriage is not the only option to deal with the hormones associated with adulthood. Unfortunately, in our society it is prefered and hevenly sanctioned alternate to having loving/ caring relationship with opposite sex. While I also oppose early age marriages particularly in urban or modern surroundings, I support loving friendship at that age over no relationship until marriage. The simple human emotions with least harm to self and society should not be suppressed so heavy-handedly, particularly for women. The suppression has more psychological problems associated with it.
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