President Pervez Musharaff’s Views

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re: #52 by rsridhar on June 30, 2003 5:00pm PT
re: #51 by rsridhar on June 30, 2003 5:00pm PT

Don`t jump to conclusions about Musharraf`s financial integrity on the basis of Shaheen Sehbai`s SA Tribune articles. According to the celebrated Ardeshir Cowasjee, the SA Tribune site is ``scurrilous`` and ``perhaps nonfactual``.

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20030601.htm

Cowasjee is no schmooze. Such comments coming from a man like him cannot be dismissed lightly.

Mr.Sehbai didn`t enjoy a glaring reputation even before he was hounded off (unjustly) by Musharraf`s goons. During the mid-1990s, this man was accused of being Asif Zardari`s mole at `The News` newspaper. He allegedly took money and favors from Benazir and Zardari to put a positive spin on the flimsy achievements of PPP government. These allegations date back to 1994. If proven true, these allegations would dent the integrity of this man. It will just prove that he is criticizing Musharraf at the behest of Zardari and Benazir for personal gain, not for some noble ideals.

Please remember: There are black sheep among journalists too. Nawaz Sharif (allegedly) gifted acres of land to Mir Shakeel ur Rehman (the boss of Jang newspapers) to win him over. The chief-editor and owner of `Khabrain` newspaper was also lavished with soft loans and gifts by Nawaz Sharif to write bogus editorials against Benazir. Similarly, Benazir had people like Azhar Suhail, Hussain Haqqani and Shaheen Sehbai (allegedly) on her payroll to report half-truths and write propaganda editorials against Nawaz.

Now that both Nawaz and Benazir have been deprived of their profitable thrones, it is natural for their `sympathizers` to attack Musharraf.

Isn`t it strange that only Sehbai is accusing Musharraf of corruption??
Journalists with better reputations (like Najam Sethi and his wife, Cowasjee, Shireen Mazari, Nasim Zehra, and others) are neither corroborating Sehbai`s allegations nor making fresh ones against Musharraf.

Makes you wonder... Is Sehbai attacking Musharraf out of journalistic conviction? Or is he simply getting back at Musharraf for maltreating him in Pakistan? Or is he taking money from Benazir to write articles against Musharraf?

Musharraf may be dictatorial and abrasive in his style, but cannot be accused of corruption. Everybody is presumed innocent, until proven guilty.

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...any kashmiri who wants his own country is free to get the fack out...

HamidM:

I may be facetious in some part of my posts but my point on conflict management rather than conflict resolution was made in seriousness. The gulf between two countries is too wide to make a solution possible, especially if a solution to Kashmir is central to normalization.

You say that an independent valley is ``reasonable`` whereas India`s stand is ``ridiculous``. I say the opposite. Neither of us have the truth, we merely have perceptions. What counts in reality is perception. Till our perceptions show some commonality, it is ridiculous to think of
``solutions``.

``there is nothing to negotiate, is there? .......... ``

You make a valid point, one made by the Friday Times at one point. How do you negotiate with someone who says that there is no problem. In our case, we do not say that there is no problem. We are not stupid. We know there is a problem...of alienation, hatred, insurgency and the like.

But in our mind, the solution does not lie in trading land for peace. We are not Israel in two distinct ways: we give equal citizenship and rights to Kashmiris. That some choose not to accept it is their problem. The other is that unlike Palestine, Kashmiris did accept India as their country from 1947 TO 1989. It was us that drove them away and it is us that will bring them back. If not now than three generations from now.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, your rulers will decide at what time to give up. That is your free will. Musharaff says that Kashmir is the core issue between India and Pakistan. He is right. Till Pakistan demands Kkashmir, what difference does it make to us if a Mullah rules or a whiskey swilling liberal. We have to fight either.

dost-mittar,

......... i agree with you 100% on the debt issue ........it is a bad habit that leads to ruination........

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Threat to Pakistan`s security is not from India, Israel or America.

It is from the Mullas & Military`s dabbling in politics.


Pakistan`s defence is not in F-16s, Tanks, friendship with US or EU or whatever. (USSR disintegrated with all its military might)

Its defence lies in undiluted secular democracy, good economy and normal relations with India (specifically) and other countries - with outstanding issues being resovled in their own time. See how China resolves its outstanding issues.

(Japan and so many other countries are defended by the combination of above factors)

hamidm#56
``the fact of the matter remains that having billions in the bank does not necessarily make india a ``rich`` nation ``
And who said that it did?
The high accumulation of forex is an indicator of many things but prosperity is not one of them! In my opinion, even when Pakistan was on the verge of bankruptcy, its people were, in general, better fed and clothed than those of its eastern neighbour.
On the economics of aid, when my favourite third world leader, Lee Kuan Yiew, stopped ALL foreign aid nearly three decades ago - the banias have only taken baby steps in that direction now - many economists scoffed at him. But he knew something the economists didn`t and it is that self-esteem does the same wonder for nations that it does for individuals. We have now found that the unintended negative effects of the excessive do-good welfare programs have done more harm than good to the people hooked on those programs. The same is true of the nations as well. In my opinion, Pakistan will also do well to kick the habit of this opium called foreign aid.

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re: hamidm

{unfortunately, huntington agrees with mr jinnah..........give his book a twirl - you might learn something }

...i promise to do that only if you read a macroeconomic 101 text first...deal?

re: bbabu

{I am not sure what is in a name.}

...nothing...except if you open a ``pakistani`` restaurant in the US, not very many goras will show up...and to make sure zagat`s includes it, you better classify it as indian...

hrrehman

{You don`t have to go that far just look at most of the Indians in US, they are scary
looking. }

...less scary than pakis being chased by the FBI and loaded on to cargo planes for a trip to either guantanamo bay or back to pakiland...

h_rehman,
As tahmed kindly pointed out some time ago,it is not fair that you hide your chand sa mukhda from us.Why should we be deprived?From your own advertising,I`m sure I`ll never go to a Brad Pitt film after seing you.Come out of purdah!
I think if you`re going to talk about being gorgeous,no South Asians(or any other Asians) are half as good looking as the Aussies.How could they be since the fairer you are,the better-looking you get,and the best looking of all are my neighbour`s albino rats?What`s more,the Aussies surf and run.....you do realise you`re not in the running?
Anyway,at least the Indians only look scary,they don`t do scary things,unlike our friendly neighbours to the west.

stuka,

...... i was simply trying to be pragmatic ....... personally i think the only reasonable solution is for the people of kashmir (all of it, including AK) to hold a referandum and decide what they want to do ........ but i doubt if india (or pakistan) will agree to that ......... an independednt kashmir valley seems to be the only option that all parties might agree to ..........if india keeps on sticking to its ridiculous stance, then there is nothing to negotiate, is there? .......... having said that, i don`t think there is any chance of resolving this issue in the forseeable future ......... eventually it will be resolved, but it might take a few hundred years .......... in the meantime it will remain a festering wound and people will continue to die on all sides ..........just look at the balkans, they are not done yet...............

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