My Bars of Chocolate

Dude u can sure say all that bout KARACHI girlz!

Its true that,galz r bars of choclate,
:) A great Choclate Story i liked It,Bravo

I am not sure about the chocloates as in Pakistan they are not that easy 2 have which you will hear from the top girls-man as well but i must say one thing that, You sure know how to play with words
Nice one :-)

#7 by UmerMurtaza on July 8, 2003 8:29am PT

in my last reply... i meant you are NOT smart enough to have an opinion on anything!

#6 by rsaxena on July 8, 2003 8:29am PT

excuse me? but who said karachi girls are ``generally unattractive``?



#7 by UmerMurtaza on July 8, 2003 8:29am PT

please tell me you didnt really think that ``testosterone laden`` meant Osama`s brother!

if you were serious about the cheesy remark you made...then i`m sorry but I dont think you`re smart enought to have an opinion. period!
and if you were just trying really hard to be funny..then i`m sorry once again but your poor effort at making anyone laugh wasnt very successful! maybe you were doing as Zulfi suggested, ``Climbing into a girl’s heart and getting a taste of that ravishing chocolate, requires knowing how to make them laugh, how to make them smile,...`` maybe you were trying to make all the girls laugh...

guys like you criticize any man who you think is a threat to your mental capabilities. anyone who`s even slightly smarter is automatically worthy of being mocked.
In my opinion, you`re remark was a pathetic piece of crap.



#14 by septran on July 8, 2003 10:11pm PT

just for your information, an extremely high sugar level can and does eventually cause heart failure.


As for the article itself, it was a bit offensive in the sense that women were being portrayed just as something you`d like to have only because it tastes good. I think there`s much more to women than that. But this was written by a man who`s brave enough to admit that men do actually fantasize about women, and keeping this in mind, I think it was pretty good. Only because most men I know will never admit to any girl that they fantasize about them. Somehow their egos always come in the way. Not that I`d want to know what men are capable of imagining!But there`s no harm in admitting that until men dont set aside their egos, women are and always will be something that men can only dream about and never completely understand.

#23 by nazarhayatkhan : Thank you very much for correcting me Khan Sahib.

Perhaps I am the one, who can fully understand your plight and agony when I put myself in your shoes.Believe me, this deficency is part and parcel of all and sundry of our previous generation.

No matter, they studied in grammers and public schools of Karachi, `taat schools` of lower and upper Indus basin, or the boarding schools of elite class, presumably whoever you point your finger, their quest for unexplored treasures within the `she-factor` is still not over, even though they have toddler grandchildren in pre-schools or walking sticks or fakejaws by their bed tables.

The amusing thing is that even the class factor fails to differentiate in this thinking pattern, you listen to the abuses and swearing of mid-aged phariwallas and tangeywallas, cheap jokes of hawaldars and naib-subidars (who still love to crack one or two daily to teenagers when I visited my Alma mater in Ghuragali,recently) or the so called educated people like Zulfi, living in modern state-of-the-art cities, you will sense the needle in the same quartile.

So all of thou have my word. You can write `as long and as much` as you like whatever come to your thoughts and believe me, atleast I will not shackle your `creativity` and anchor your `aspiration and appreciations`.

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# 35 by Fasialuno :
I borrow some of your own words `` i have been working long hours non-stop (including weekends) for the past few weeks. and after being constantly treated like a machine by bosses and clients, i was trying to think of things that would put me in a different frame of mind. `` Quote ends.

You need proper bed rest and many good-nights sleep to function properly, What I believe is better you should consult some good Pyscologist for the time being, but for God sake donot go to those sitting on road sides with big `skull` boards or Sian baba `Jadoo Tonas`.

Just kidding, it is nothing personal, though, a large no of similar type of texts are freely available on e-zines and are bombarded daily by unsolicited senders so there is no reason that you are defending this subject with your sword sparkling and waving above your head like zorro.

All we people want is a little check and balance and a bit of `hush-hush` on chowk, nothing else. So cheers away.

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#24 Faradi , LOL, I look forward to another Blasephamy novel, an extremly `open` and seducive... maybe this time by Zulfi...So plz let me know when the new edition is out. I want to rush there like Harry Poter `Chamber of Secrets` for my own crisp copy. By the way, I want to see a naked purple `totta` (Parrot) on the front page, not a crane.
;-}

Infact, I always admired Ismat Chugti and wonder to see some more modern creativity in Urdu and my beloved Punjabi and Sindhi Literatures.

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#20 Charlie, Last but not the least, the testaments assure us that if we stick to our `allocated quota` than we will be awarded with unlimited supplies of `goodies with unimaginable flavourings` in a never ending after-life, So be prepared and take care.

Post 37:

Thank you for highlighting the gist of the article.

Many were having great trouble in locating that :-)

Take Care.

Men, married or not, can learn something from author`s following para:

``Climbing into a [women]’s heart ...requires knowing how to make them laugh, how to make them smile, leaving the ego at home and getting ready for complete, humble submission; doing the stupid pet tricks with reckless abandon; being a pet, letting her be the ring master``

Absolutely, unequivocally, true!

faisaluno #35:

my first reaction was to say let’s us agree to disagree and move on…but have to point out a few things…

first only sahib in the family is ‘walid-sahib’…

second: my comments are contextual wrt this article and what it purports to (mis)convey they were not blanket statements on morality or depravity

… our twisted attitude to anything fun…

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agree fully…our sense of humour allocation from the one up there is depleting rapidly…

rgds,

t

nazar sahib:

thanks. keep fighting the good fight.

temporal sahib:

thanks for the thoughtful comments. i agree that ``spiritual compass`` remark was a bit out of whack. i have been working long hours non-stop (including weekends) for the past few weeks. and after being constantly treated like a machine by bosses and clients, i was trying to think of things that would put me in a different frame of mind.

that said, i do stand by what i wrote about our twisted attitude to anything fun. our general awam (at least the one in karachi) is lot more smarter than we give them credit. in the bank i used to work for in karachi, i was absolutely amazed to see women from urdu medium backgrounds being so open in their dealing with men including foreign educated ones like me. in fact it was the western educated woman who had a chip on her shoulders and who looked down upon anything desi such as eating kebab lunches at bunder road or going out for churees during chand raat. in comparison, women from places like gulshan and federal b area had absolutely no qualms about joining their male counterparts for ice cream after work or for special melas at funland held on saturday mornings.

now i know such attitude might not be common in backwater cities like peshawer and faisalabad but remember that where karachi goes, others follow.

nazar:

...can you please walk over to the adjoining office or call JM and ask him to reply to t`s mail?... thanks

..t

faisuluno # 31:

this is the first time i am inyteracting with you...have enjoyed your comments in the past…but feel this is slightly out of place…discussion is ok…but in an interactive medium such as this where is the writer of this piece?…khair…that was just an observation…

in my comments earlier i had quoted a childhood friend from Karachi who was very upset…perhaps should have explained why he was so upset…in his days he had experienced all this and more…and the time frame was within a few years of this narration…today with age and maturity, he rightly felt that his experiences only reflected a privileged and perverted minority’s and not that of the masses…

those who interact here belong to a certain strata of society…say lower to upper middle…the narrator, zulfi belongs to perhaps less than one tenth of one percent of those karachite…if he has not overtly exaggerated his forays, or even if he has, these are the (mis)adventures of a very small minority…

sorry for this longish interlude…now some specifics:

how the heck are you supposed to be human if you cant discuss ways of better calibrating spiritual compass or if you cant talk about your experience of trying to interact with members of opposite sex in a society that regards this activity as some sort of perversion?

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you lost me with the spiritual compass bit…but if the focus is to discuss or enhance ineraction between our godforsaken land and society than my humble suggestion would be to start of with the masses…and see how the majority handles the issue and then perhaps discuss any amelioration of that situation…

whats wrong with learning about other people`s experience and why cant we have an open discussion on this critical area of human activity?

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there is nothing wrong with learning from other people’s experience…or with having an open discussion…but learning for what end?…if it is for fantasy or vicarious pleasure`s sake (which i suspect is not your thrust) than it may be ok…but if learning entails absorbing lessons and rectifying and ameliorating the situation then dwelling on this particular effort is time wasted…

rgds,

t

Faisaluno # 31

Thanks for your post and putting a few things in the right perspective.

what the hell is wrong with you people? why are you guys so uncomfortable in your own skin? few weeks ago, you absolutely panned haroon moghul for his brilliant article on how islam could be used as tool to bring about positive change (``This Beloved Arab Colony``). now this guy is being dragged over coals for writing about a subject on the opposite end of the spectrum. how the heck are you supposed to be human if you cant discuss ways of better calibrating spiritual compass or if you cant talk about your experience of trying to interact with members of opposite sex in a society that regards this activity as some sort of perversion? whats wrong with learning about other people`s experience and why cant we have an open discussion on this critical area of human activity? why must pakis only think about bush`s policy in iraq or ghq`s policy in okara?

Hey Zulfi. I can always relate to a chocoholic like you. I guess you have the guts to write about the Tehmina`s and Kehkeshan`s of the world. Being a chocoholic like you I have a number of stories to tell, but I guess I will stick to writing about cars for a while.

Shahzad

#3 by aaisha on July 8, 2003 5:03am PT
An interesting analogy...chocolates and girls, hmmm...the daring were at it even as back as the 80s, and I always thought dating was a recent fever in the purported land of the pure...and now tell me, how much of this tale was made up and pumped up to garner accolades from fellow...``ogling testosterone laden male classmate``...?

Aaisha, let alone the 80`s I hear that there was more dating in Pakistan in the 40`s and 50`s.