Women and Divine Decrees

Rafay Alam, you are miserably out of touch with reality. Don`t you know that Vagina Monologues is emancipating Pakistani women and all problems including discriminatory laws will disappear once all Pakistani women have seen the play.......... so there.

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Latifa bhaijan, is it you?

Pakistan needs a uniform legal code granting every citizen complete equality regardless of religion, caste, creed or gender... to confuse people with outdated religious laws is hardly fair...We don`t need to be ideological about anything... especially not law... the whole idea is manifestly stupid and idiotic... it seems like all of sudden one day Zia ul Haq decided to turn back the clock to 7th century arabia...

Yallah, aey Allah tallah protect Pakistan from the `Islamic ideology` that has become the source of this nation`s downfall.

-Manto

Rafay_Alam Saheb:

I think you have written a very good article, once I read it couple of times more to understand the case you are making. To me whole issue is meaningless in true Islamic state. No matter what bakra says about the value of women testimony, in an Islamic society, womens; place is home and most major crimes take place outside home. So women will not be witnessing crimes from home or from behind shuttle-cock burqas and hijabs, particularly if they are keeping their eyes focused downward with sharm-o-haya. Second point is that Islamic state is crime-free once all the criminals are rehabilitated or indoctrinated or else sent packing their hands and eyes or stoned to death. Once, it is a crime-free society, no crime, no witness, no police and no judges are needed. All the crimes committed then are outside the Islamic society like Kashmir, Chechenya and Palestine. To solve those crimes, there is no need of women witnesses but male jehadis. Since male jehadis are the tools to bring justice to the unjust world, their value is doubled in this world and manyfold higher in the skies. It is not that women are half the witness in Islam; they are fully one witness in Islam but males due to taking the burden of bringing justice to Kashmir, Chechnya etc are equal to two wittnesses. So it is not 1 and 0.5 which is terrible to think about and doubtful to be a revealed truth but it is 2 and 1 which makes perfect sense. Remember it is 2 only for those male who are real men with proven track record of achieving the status of double witness such as Maulana Azhar, Mulla Omar, Osama Bin Laden and A-Z Bin Z-A.

Moreover, surat bakra can not be used in this matter. Surat bakra meaning cow is about Jews and anything taken out of it is out of context. You have to look into surat nisa meaning women for matters relating to nisa while I go and watch zebunnisas in the local mall.....

Oh before I forget, the real purpose of Islam is to create a crime-free society and not relegating women to 0.5 witness level. Once society has achieved the goals of Islam, witnessing a crime becomes a rarity. There is no full or half witness in the jungle or in the zoo....the crimes happen because people do not follow true spirit of Islam....if you pray five times a day and make sure to start over if vuzu is broken in between, then attend jalsa seerat un nabis, naat-o-darood in the morning from 5-8 AM, maarfat and tareeqat daily, reciting koran daily, watching Israr Ahmed on TV daily and add few more farz and sunnats daily, you have no time left to commit crime. What a smart and well calculated moves by god to bring society at par with the life without wife at alpha centuri......