Bina Shah August 12, 2003
#20 Posted by stuka on August 12, 2003 5:27:00 pm
Temporal:
``--there is poetry in motion...in the steps of a classical dancer...be it ballet or bharat natyam ``
Brother Temporal, why are you utaroing me in public. I have never seen ballet or Bharatnatyam. I do emjoy Bhangra and Gidda but to call those jerking motions poetry is a bit much.
``--there is poetry in a baby`s first step...in a baby`s smile...in the parent`s glow...in eyes brimming with..... ``
Saddey vargey dee kismet vich eh vee nahi hai
``--there is poetry in seemingly inane notes exchanged between lovers...in their conversation...in their eyes... ``
Hun mai kee dassan!!!
``--there is poetry in an aero dynamic fighter taking off...as in a sitting duck being blasted into smithereen... ``
That is true. I love the landings of fighter planes as they come down to earth gracefully, their nose edging up slightly, the wheels coming down and the glide...That is poetry in motion.
``--there is poetry in rustling leaves as the lovers walk in the park... ``
:( If you say so.
``--there is poetry in motion...in the steps of a classical dancer...be it ballet or bharat natyam ``
Brother Temporal, why are you utaroing me in public. I have never seen ballet or Bharatnatyam. I do emjoy Bhangra and Gidda but to call those jerking motions poetry is a bit much.
``--there is poetry in a baby`s first step...in a baby`s smile...in the parent`s glow...in eyes brimming with..... ``
Saddey vargey dee kismet vich eh vee nahi hai
``--there is poetry in seemingly inane notes exchanged between lovers...in their conversation...in their eyes... ``
Hun mai kee dassan!!!
``--there is poetry in an aero dynamic fighter taking off...as in a sitting duck being blasted into smithereen... ``
That is true. I love the landings of fighter planes as they come down to earth gracefully, their nose edging up slightly, the wheels coming down and the glide...That is poetry in motion.
``--there is poetry in rustling leaves as the lovers walk in the park... ``
:( If you say so.
#19 Posted by Alka on August 12, 2003 4:32:59 pm
#8 by temporal on August 12, 2003 7:56am PT#8 by temporal on August 12, 2003 7:56am
``binoo:
...from the indian press reports they opened their hearts and wallets...the press put on positive spin...
...from the pakistani press reports...well, they were less than gracious...don`t know for sure why...knee-jerkism?...still not free?...biased?...other issue on their plate?...
...yeah, who knows...we just might have found a start:)
...t
................................
Similar thoughts expressed here in a letter to Dawn:
http://www.dawn.com/2003/07/20/letted.htm#9
Healing the hearts
It was heart-warming to see baby Noor Fatima undergo a heart surgery successfully in Bangalore. Most Indian newspapers reported it as a step (though small) towards friendship with Pakistan. All Indians felt deeply for her and prayed for a successful operation and recovery.
But this did not get as much attention from the Pakistan media and the news was either missing or very briefly and casually stated in the Pakistan newspapers. This operation was important not just because Fatima is a Pakistani girl who was successfully operated upon in India (previously also many such Pakistani kids have been treated in India), but that at only two-and-a-half years of age she had holes in her heart and also because she was one of those who specially came travelling to India last Friday by the first bus of the resumed New Delhi-Lahore bus service.
And the high hopes of her parents did not go stray. Moreover, every small step towards breaking the ice counts at this stage when the two countries are setting the right mood.
ALKA GIRDHAR
``binoo:
...from the indian press reports they opened their hearts and wallets...the press put on positive spin...
...from the pakistani press reports...well, they were less than gracious...don`t know for sure why...knee-jerkism?...still not free?...biased?...other issue on their plate?...
...yeah, who knows...we just might have found a start:)
...t
................................
Similar thoughts expressed here in a letter to Dawn:
http://www.dawn.com/2003/07/20/letted.htm#9
Healing the hearts
It was heart-warming to see baby Noor Fatima undergo a heart surgery successfully in Bangalore. Most Indian newspapers reported it as a step (though small) towards friendship with Pakistan. All Indians felt deeply for her and prayed for a successful operation and recovery.
But this did not get as much attention from the Pakistan media and the news was either missing or very briefly and casually stated in the Pakistan newspapers. This operation was important not just because Fatima is a Pakistani girl who was successfully operated upon in India (previously also many such Pakistani kids have been treated in India), but that at only two-and-a-half years of age she had holes in her heart and also because she was one of those who specially came travelling to India last Friday by the first bus of the resumed New Delhi-Lahore bus service.
And the high hopes of her parents did not go stray. Moreover, every small step towards breaking the ice counts at this stage when the two countries are setting the right mood.
ALKA GIRDHAR
#18 Posted by MantoLives on August 12, 2003 3:57:58 pm
Kehnday nay naina,
Teray kol rehna ...
I remember thinking the day baby noor came back to Pakistan if she had any idea about what she means to the future of two great nationstates?
What is ironic is that without the hostility that exists between Pakistan and India, it would have been impossible for this to come about. It is the will to overcome this hostility which made Indians receive Our little Noor, our noor-e-Pakistan, with such open arms.
Teray kol rehna ...
I remember thinking the day baby noor came back to Pakistan if she had any idea about what she means to the future of two great nationstates?
What is ironic is that without the hostility that exists between Pakistan and India, it would have been impossible for this to come about. It is the will to overcome this hostility which made Indians receive Our little Noor, our noor-e-Pakistan, with such open arms.
#17 Posted by temporal on August 12, 2003 2:31:03 pm
tahmed32:
somehow i missed your little gem #7...now it is a toss up...both of you should do an encore...resolve kashmir in two minutes or less...and get nominated for noble...in both peace and literature....
somehow i missed your little gem #7...now it is a toss up...both of you should do an encore...resolve kashmir in two minutes or less...and get nominated for noble...in both peace and literature....
#16 Posted by temporal on August 12, 2003 12:41:15 pm
stuka:
...don`t sell yourself short...nobody is an illiterate when it comes to poetry...and this includes reading, writing, and appreciating poetry...the latter we do (sometimes) without realization...
--there is poetry in motion...in the steps of a classical dancer...be it ballet or bharat natyam
--there is poetry in a baby`s first step...in a baby`s smile...in the parent`s glow...in eyes brimming with.....
--there is poetry in seemingly inane notes exchanged between lovers...in their conversation...in their eyes...
--there is poetry in an aero dynamic fighter taking off...as in a sitting duck being blasted into smithereen...
--there is poetry in rustling leaves as the lovers walk in the park...
…and if these magical moments are conveyed to you in words…and if you feel them then there is another kind of poetry...
...t
ps: binoo do i get some rahs?
...don`t sell yourself short...nobody is an illiterate when it comes to poetry...and this includes reading, writing, and appreciating poetry...the latter we do (sometimes) without realization...
--there is poetry in motion...in the steps of a classical dancer...be it ballet or bharat natyam
--there is poetry in a baby`s first step...in a baby`s smile...in the parent`s glow...in eyes brimming with.....
--there is poetry in seemingly inane notes exchanged between lovers...in their conversation...in their eyes...
--there is poetry in an aero dynamic fighter taking off...as in a sitting duck being blasted into smithereen...
--there is poetry in rustling leaves as the lovers walk in the park...
…and if these magical moments are conveyed to you in words…and if you feel them then there is another kind of poetry...
...t
ps: binoo do i get some rahs?
#15 Posted by tahmed32 on August 12, 2003 12:25:57 pm
Stuka #11 Just joining lalib in rapping Bina Shah for getting lazy with her poetry writing. ;-)
Just look at her first verse:
``I put my child on the bus
And I prayed to God
That they might be able to fix her
I never thought in my wildest imagination
That she might be able to fix them
And at the same time,
That she might be able to fix us. ``
What IS this anyway?? Some kind of a mafia deal where everyone and his grandma is getting fixed?? I have seen Pakistani journalists write better stuff without even pretending that it is anything but prose - and if you read Dawn or News or something you will know how thoroughly the Pakistani journalists make hash out of the english language.
Just look at her first verse:
``I put my child on the bus
And I prayed to God
That they might be able to fix her
I never thought in my wildest imagination
That she might be able to fix them
And at the same time,
That she might be able to fix us. ``
What IS this anyway?? Some kind of a mafia deal where everyone and his grandma is getting fixed?? I have seen Pakistani journalists write better stuff without even pretending that it is anything but prose - and if you read Dawn or News or something you will know how thoroughly the Pakistani journalists make hash out of the english language.
#14 Posted by stuka on August 12, 2003 11:53:22 am
Temporal: hmm, ok. I get the answer. :)
Bina: I am an illiterate when it comes to appreciating poetry. But I liked reading this.
Bina: I am an illiterate when it comes to appreciating poetry. But I liked reading this.
#13 Posted by temporal on August 12, 2003 11:39:10 am
stuka:
..hmmm...that`s a sitting duck bud...a dumb sitting duck for a spitfire...;)
..hmmm...that`s a sitting duck bud...a dumb sitting duck for a spitfire...;)
#12 Posted by stuka on August 12, 2003 10:57:36 am
This might be a dumb question..is Bina Shah really Noor`s mom? Or is she just writing the poem as if she`s her mom?
#10 Posted by ferozk on August 12, 2003 10:11:22 am
re: Bina
Heartfelt poem. The sentiment and the topic of sentiments expressed does not lend to cynism, but to hope.
re: Urstruly # 5
What is the big deal? There is no big deal and you are right, Pakistani children travel all over the world for treatment.
They travel all over the world and they get treatment all over the world, but unlike Noor, they are not a metaphor for hope and promise to more than 1.2 billion people who wake up, toil their days and sleep at night knowing that any minute all their lives could end in a brilliant glow, more brilliant than the sun.
What is the big deal?
A little girl, who can for one minute stop two historically implacable neighbors from hating each other and think alike of hope, promise and life in a sea of misery, proverty and death is a big deal! More than 1.2 billion people thinking about one little girl; praying for her at the same time and hoping that she lives, while putting aside the tedium of their lives for the success of her life, is a big deal! The fact that Noor can make the people of India and Pakistan think about something else instead of hating each other, is a big deal!
The big deal is in your capacity to love, to heal, to care, to wish for a some thing better; to hope and to believe in some thing more than a sum of hate filled historic anger.
Ciao
Heartfelt poem. The sentiment and the topic of sentiments expressed does not lend to cynism, but to hope.
re: Urstruly # 5
What is the big deal? There is no big deal and you are right, Pakistani children travel all over the world for treatment.
They travel all over the world and they get treatment all over the world, but unlike Noor, they are not a metaphor for hope and promise to more than 1.2 billion people who wake up, toil their days and sleep at night knowing that any minute all their lives could end in a brilliant glow, more brilliant than the sun.
What is the big deal?
A little girl, who can for one minute stop two historically implacable neighbors from hating each other and think alike of hope, promise and life in a sea of misery, proverty and death is a big deal! More than 1.2 billion people thinking about one little girl; praying for her at the same time and hoping that she lives, while putting aside the tedium of their lives for the success of her life, is a big deal! The fact that Noor can make the people of India and Pakistan think about something else instead of hating each other, is a big deal!
The big deal is in your capacity to love, to heal, to care, to wish for a some thing better; to hope and to believe in some thing more than a sum of hate filled historic anger.
Ciao
#8 Posted by temporal on August 12, 2003 7:56:37 am
binoo:
We went looking for her life,
And found something else along the way,
Who knows? We just might have found a start.
baby noor is an conundrum ...an enigma...
...from the indian press reports they opened their hearts and wallets...the press put on positive spin...
...from the pakistani press reports...well, they were less than gracious...don`t know for sure why...knee-jerkism?...still not free?...biased?...other issue on their plate?...
...yeah, who knows...we just might have found a start:)
...t
We went looking for her life,
And found something else along the way,
Who knows? We just might have found a start.
baby noor is an conundrum ...an enigma...
...from the indian press reports they opened their hearts and wallets...the press put on positive spin...
...from the pakistani press reports...well, they were less than gracious...don`t know for sure why...knee-jerkism?...still not free?...biased?...other issue on their plate?...
...yeah, who knows...we just might have found a start:)
...t
#7 Posted by Urstruly on August 12, 2003 7:39:01 am
NGOs are attributing unnecessary emotionalism to the this Noor business. I dont see what the big deal is. Paksitani children go all over the world to get treatment but nobody writes poems for South Africa or Dubai.
#6 Posted by razzz on August 12, 2003 7:39:01 am
No comments on the structure but the content and subject is amazing. :)
cheers
raza
cheers
raza
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