Zeeshan Mahmud August 31, 2003
#31 Posted by adnan_rafiq on September 3, 2003 8:55:30 am
#30: If it was written to please you and only you, do us a favor and read it in your OWN bathroom - by yourself. And, oh yes, make sure the door is shut tight. People who write for themselves are not itching to get their work published. That too on a website.
BTW, your ``it wrote itself`` excuse ranks right up there with ``my dog ate it!``
BTW, your ``it wrote itself`` excuse ranks right up there with ``my dog ate it!``
#30 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on September 3, 2003 7:20:32 am
TaimurMalik
Feel free, I don`t really have any problems with the preceeding posts.
I enjoyed writing it and it was written to please me. I don`t have a problem with everyone else disliking it at all, just that you can tell how much merit the almost comedic female ejaculations here have.
Feel free, I don`t really have any problems with the preceeding posts.
I enjoyed writing it and it was written to please me. I don`t have a problem with everyone else disliking it at all, just that you can tell how much merit the almost comedic female ejaculations here have.
#29 Posted by taimurmalik on September 3, 2003 2:30:51 am
Zeeshan:
I would refrain from giving any comments on this piece given your reaction on Muhammad Qayyum`s board. Anyways, good luck for any future writings.
peace.
I would refrain from giving any comments on this piece given your reaction on Muhammad Qayyum`s board. Anyways, good luck for any future writings.
peace.
#28 Posted by Saminasha on September 2, 2003 5:37:10 pm
Godot,
Examples, please.
Zeeshan,
So, anyone pointing out the serious problems in this piece are ``hateful`` and ``biased``? I tend to disagree. Yes, there probably is an element of karma here, but the uniform tenor of opinion cannot be dismissed as just ``bias``.
Examples, please.
Zeeshan,
So, anyone pointing out the serious problems in this piece are ``hateful`` and ``biased``? I tend to disagree. Yes, there probably is an element of karma here, but the uniform tenor of opinion cannot be dismissed as just ``bias``.
#27 Posted by sattar2 on September 2, 2003 4:51:27 pm
... that`s alright Urstruly,
... your post on the wrong board made just as much sense as it does anyway
... so never mind ... but keep contributing in any case ...
... your post on the wrong board made just as much sense as it does anyway
... so never mind ... but keep contributing in any case ...
#26 Posted by Rakaposh on September 2, 2003 12:03:56 pm
I admitt I did not read the article after the first line.
Ofcourse I read all the comments, they seem more interesting and readible.
From what I gather, this may have been an attention , a reaction , an explosion seeking stunt.
or it could be...
oooay mujhay kis nai lulkara...maiN bhi likH kai dunya waloN ko bata dooN gaa !
Ofcourse I read all the comments, they seem more interesting and readible.
From what I gather, this may have been an attention , a reaction , an explosion seeking stunt.
or it could be...
oooay mujhay kis nai lulkara...maiN bhi likH kai dunya waloN ko bata dooN gaa !
#24 Posted by Urstruly on September 2, 2003 7:26:19 am
ZM
I apologize for posting the last post at your board. It was an accident, it was meant for the other board.
I apologize for posting the last post at your board. It was an accident, it was meant for the other board.
#23 Posted by Urstruly on September 2, 2003 7:23:03 am
If we look at the whole situation, in the middle east, logically, the following picture emerges:
1. Americans have explicitly declared their intention that they intend to change the map of the Middle East. This changing of map means changing of current regimes as well. In other words the shelf life of all such regimes that were installed by British and French colonialism in the early last century, is over. So the new colonialism will install new regimes (a process that is currently underway in Iraq & Afghanistan) - which will demonstarte the semblance of what it proclaims as its ideals i.e. ``democracy`` and ``freedom``. In other words, the people of these countries aka fukkking idiots have become too smart for their own good - so they need another dose of opium - i.e. another kind of opium.
2. Now if I am a member of Saudi, jordanian, Syrian, Emirates, morrocon, libyan, or egyptian ruling class i.e. elite of the society i.e. the class that was created by British colonialism, I would percieve Americas declared intentions as a grim threat to my privileges and well being. These are the previleges that I and my family have enjoyed for decades in return of my favors for British colonialism. Logically, wouldn`t it make sense if I would try all that is in my powers to never let Americans get stable in Iraq?
British imperialism would have handled this situation differently. They would have used these states against each other first. In this regard American policy to use Pakistan against Afghnistan was correct. They are trying to do the same in Iraq by inviting armies of ``friendly Mulsim allies states`` but it is a little too late for that. What went wrong in Iraq, in my personal opinion, is that the Americans have started beleiving their own propaganda a little too much. As long as Fox, CNN, ABC, Hindus and people like Rizwan Mahmud are acting as the first line of attack for Americans, I think the above mentioned ruling elite need not worry a bit.
#22 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on September 2, 2003 7:03:39 am
# 19
Subroto
That was worth publishing.
Subroto
That was worth publishing.
#21 Posted by Bina_Shah on September 1, 2003 10:39:32 pm
Subroto:
there were 247 cliches. Odd that since the piece itself was only 200 words long.
:-)
there were 247 cliches. Odd that since the piece itself was only 200 words long.
:-)
#20 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on September 1, 2003 9:37:21 pm
It wrote itself.
I enjoyed writing it and most of you are just ejaculating over all those months of hate.
Thank you for reading even if you were biased.
G`night.
I enjoyed writing it and most of you are just ejaculating over all those months of hate.
Thank you for reading even if you were biased.
G`night.
#19 Posted by subroto on September 1, 2003 9:10:19 pm
Well it could have been.
And then what it was - the smell of crap drifting down the gutters of the mind.
A life lived and yet not defined, fluttering along the bylanes of memory. Maybe it was the half opened closet that let in the lies. Ah the lies - just like when you are waiting, just waiting for something to happen. This is a process of eliminating options - time will tell.
The only problem being that waiting is the hardest part. For even when you are dead the life goes on. Death is just a part of life - the last part.
Those butterflies that flutter in the tummy just carry on fluttering. Fluttering like the dances with wolves - for even the wolves dance when they must - Tu cheeze badi hai mast mast.
Ah the bitter heart - just like a dash of Angostura bitter in the drink of life. And its a new life every day.
When all the shimmering is done only the glitter remains. Like a note to self that remains unread. For zero is sometimes better than nothing.
Of course in the end avoid cliches like the plague.
Endnote So how was that? Damn I should have submitted this. Bina did you take a count of the cliches?
And then what it was - the smell of crap drifting down the gutters of the mind.
A life lived and yet not defined, fluttering along the bylanes of memory. Maybe it was the half opened closet that let in the lies. Ah the lies - just like when you are waiting, just waiting for something to happen. This is a process of eliminating options - time will tell.
The only problem being that waiting is the hardest part. For even when you are dead the life goes on. Death is just a part of life - the last part.
Those butterflies that flutter in the tummy just carry on fluttering. Fluttering like the dances with wolves - for even the wolves dance when they must - Tu cheeze badi hai mast mast.
Ah the bitter heart - just like a dash of Angostura bitter in the drink of life. And its a new life every day.
When all the shimmering is done only the glitter remains. Like a note to self that remains unread. For zero is sometimes better than nothing.
Of course in the end avoid cliches like the plague.
Endnote So how was that? Damn I should have submitted this. Bina did you take a count of the cliches?
#18 Posted by Godot on September 1, 2003 7:41:56 pm
Zeeshan -
Some writers have produced works here at Chowk that were a lot worse than yours, but the same interactors that are ripping you apart hailed those works as “experiment” and “genre”!!! Hypocrisy is alive and kicking at Chowk!!!
If you talk the talk you gotta walk the walk...or you’re in deep trouble...as on this one. Good luck.
#17 Posted by Saminasha on September 1, 2003 5:17:06 pm
These are my candidates for cliches...
Every utopia to its watery grave
But this nostalgia of youth is fleeting and dies quickly.
Right now, only the rosy memories of youth chug away like old trains, garish and ugly in their present, only lovely in their antiquity.
Pink, the capital colour of feminity.
The magic of nostalgia is that it creates fissures in memory, as if it were a force
and your heart’s a colder and more bitter place to foster your naïve self again.
Reality after all is just confrontation.
There is no regret.
No dissatisfaction with the present.
No ultimate nullifying disillusionment.
I’m only inhaling
and getting high
on my own
supply.
Every utopia to its watery grave
But this nostalgia of youth is fleeting and dies quickly.
Right now, only the rosy memories of youth chug away like old trains, garish and ugly in their present, only lovely in their antiquity.
Pink, the capital colour of feminity.
The magic of nostalgia is that it creates fissures in memory, as if it were a force
and your heart’s a colder and more bitter place to foster your naïve self again.
Reality after all is just confrontation.
There is no regret.
No dissatisfaction with the present.
No ultimate nullifying disillusionment.
I’m only inhaling
and getting high
on my own
supply.
#16 Posted by JohnGalt on September 1, 2003 12:46:55 pm
Chowk must be real desperate for articles if they publish such juvenile crap. Or may be, some chowk editor has taken his or her revenge on the resident critic cum author par excellence.
Here`s my submission to chowk. Chowk Staff, please consider this favorably as I would like to see my name up on some internet site.
masochist, SADIST. abiogenesist ABSOLUTIST, abstractexpressionist, accomodationist, absurdist.
nazism, fascism, sexism, capitalism, abstractexpressionism, male chauvanism, feminism
ALL THAT
AND
Many Other BIG WORDS.
Thank you,
JG
Here`s my submission to chowk. Chowk Staff, please consider this favorably as I would like to see my name up on some internet site.
masochist, SADIST. abiogenesist ABSOLUTIST, abstractexpressionist, accomodationist, absurdist.
nazism, fascism, sexism, capitalism, abstractexpressionism, male chauvanism, feminism
ALL THAT
AND
Many Other BIG WORDS.
Thank you,
JG
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