Zeeshan Mahmud August 14, 2003
#27 Posted by AmericanFOB on July 7, 2004 2:10:13 pm
wow...the message board is much more interesting than the article. Just surfing through chowk and i found this ``bold`` piece. Very nice, but personal at the same time. Everyone has a different reason behind their will to write. However, having the will to write does involve having a passion for it which you clearly show trough your use of language.
#25 Posted by ECHOOOOBOOOM on August 20, 2003 9:19:52 pm
Zeeshanmahmud:
Good stuff indeed.
There are some who fancy themselves writers-in-residence at chowk as well. What they do not realise is that they are homeless-poets. They are so much at home that they paw & plead each other, exchange entreat and mollycoddle just for that droplet of affection & praise.
Miserable wretches they somehow delude themselves that they they have at last evloved into angloculture. Can`t happen , never has!
To be a feature-writer is their high-point of accomlishment. Poor souls.
Good stuff indeed.
There are some who fancy themselves writers-in-residence at chowk as well. What they do not realise is that they are homeless-poets. They are so much at home that they paw & plead each other, exchange entreat and mollycoddle just for that droplet of affection & praise.
Miserable wretches they somehow delude themselves that they they have at last evloved into angloculture. Can`t happen , never has!
To be a feature-writer is their high-point of accomlishment. Poor souls.
#23 Posted by scott on August 18, 2003 6:55:37 am
munna being reduced to checking names, whats up camel ate your beard?
/zeeshanmahmud
Member since: May 6, 2003
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Only a diff of 4 months, come back and check after 4 months
/zeeshanmahmud
Member since: May 6, 2003
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Only a diff of 4 months, come back and check after 4 months
#22 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on August 18, 2003 1:03:18 am
Oh really?
/scott
Member since: August 16, 2003
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#19 by scott on ``August 16``, 2003 7:54am PT
Shit...before posting such shit please give a warning..``shit ahead``..
And then don`t whinge...``I wrote this ages ago..``
frigging egoistical maniac...
I guess I`ll take your word for it.
cough*loser*cough.
The problem with simpletons like you is that anyone who isn`t a simpleton is obviously a genius by default. Come back to me when you hit puberty.
/scott
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#19 by scott on ``August 16``, 2003 7:54am PT
Shit...before posting such shit please give a warning..``shit ahead``..
And then don`t whinge...``I wrote this ages ago..``
frigging egoistical maniac...
I guess I`ll take your word for it.
cough*loser*cough.
The problem with simpletons like you is that anyone who isn`t a simpleton is obviously a genius by default. Come back to me when you hit puberty.
#21 Posted by scott on August 17, 2003 4:35:25 pm
shithead all you do is crap on other people`s boards!
All this piece of juvenile drivel does is how us that you have nothing to show too. While you may be a genius in your own mind, for the other chowkies all you are is an egoistical, abusive lowlife.
Btw jihadi bhai Scott is my ``Christian`` name.
All this piece of juvenile drivel does is how us that you have nothing to show too. While you may be a genius in your own mind, for the other chowkies all you are is an egoistical, abusive lowlife.
Btw jihadi bhai Scott is my ``Christian`` name.
#20 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on August 16, 2003 10:06:41 pm
I still stand by it cockfarmer. You just missed the point.
Why don`t you show me something you`ve done that`s better? And next time use your real login.
Why don`t you show me something you`ve done that`s better? And next time use your real login.
#19 Posted by scott on August 16, 2003 7:54:54 am
Shit...before posting such shit please give a warning..``shit ahead``..
And then don`t whinge...``I wrote this ages ago..``
frigging egoistical maniac...
And then don`t whinge...``I wrote this ages ago..``
frigging egoistical maniac...
#18 Posted by Tidbit on August 16, 2003 12:32:59 am
Zeeshan: Since I`ve read this so I`m not going to respond to it. But I think you already know my reaction.
however, it`s amusing to see the defense mechanisms in full swing on this board.
cheers.
however, it`s amusing to see the defense mechanisms in full swing on this board.
cheers.
#17 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on August 15, 2003 4:33:36 pm
Ummm...
Could you point out where I said I was great Nasah? Or made a subtle reference to it? Is this just a pakistani thing where somebody who likes to have intelligent conversation and pushes the envelope has an ego and a threat to your personal intelligence?
Would my reasons for writing be acceptable if I wrote a poem about it and I cried in it?
Get knotted.
Could you point out where I said I was great Nasah? Or made a subtle reference to it? Is this just a pakistani thing where somebody who likes to have intelligent conversation and pushes the envelope has an ego and a threat to your personal intelligence?
Would my reasons for writing be acceptable if I wrote a poem about it and I cried in it?
Get knotted.
#16 Posted by ana_dobarah on August 15, 2003 12:23:43 pm
everyone writes for their own reasons. . .what is the big deal here?
this was actually on zeeshan`s interactor page (or was it the writer`s page?) if memory serves me correctly, for quite a while...it is old news, as he says.
i have characters in my head as well that i`d like to get out, there is much going on around us in the world that i would like to write about. *ponders* does that mean i`m bloody in love with meself? i used to stand in front of my cousins and tell them stories.
i guess there is a bit of the narcissist that exists in writers, in poets, in artists.
let it be. . .
i can see what zeeshan hopes to achieve in his writing. he`s being honest about it, even if it appears offensively egotistical. he also knows that it is not about him. .writing is not about him, to show what a great writer he is. . .he knows that the message, such as it is, is more important than the medium, the writer. we don`t write for no reason whatsoever. . .some of us write because we are compelled to. . .if there isn`t that `passion` (ouch!) for lack of a better word, for putting words together then why write? (i am asking myself that question more and more)
everyone writes for their own reasons, this doesn`t have to be yours. . .it is his. some writing is more purposeful than others. and that`s just the way the peanut butter chocolate chip cookie crumbles.
ma`salaama.
this was actually on zeeshan`s interactor page (or was it the writer`s page?) if memory serves me correctly, for quite a while...it is old news, as he says.
i have characters in my head as well that i`d like to get out, there is much going on around us in the world that i would like to write about. *ponders* does that mean i`m bloody in love with meself? i used to stand in front of my cousins and tell them stories.
i guess there is a bit of the narcissist that exists in writers, in poets, in artists.
let it be. . .
i can see what zeeshan hopes to achieve in his writing. he`s being honest about it, even if it appears offensively egotistical. he also knows that it is not about him. .writing is not about him, to show what a great writer he is. . .he knows that the message, such as it is, is more important than the medium, the writer. we don`t write for no reason whatsoever. . .some of us write because we are compelled to. . .if there isn`t that `passion` (ouch!) for lack of a better word, for putting words together then why write? (i am asking myself that question more and more)
everyone writes for their own reasons, this doesn`t have to be yours. . .it is his. some writing is more purposeful than others. and that`s just the way the peanut butter chocolate chip cookie crumbles.
ma`salaama.
#14 Posted by nasah on August 15, 2003 7:52:58 am
dear Aleeshan -- it was not meant to insult you, nah -- it was meant to amuse you --
let US read some of ur `compelling` writings on Chowk that makes YOU such a great writer in YOUR mind --
I like U -- u r one audacious kid:-)
let US read some of ur `compelling` writings on Chowk that makes YOU such a great writer in YOUR mind --
I like U -- u r one audacious kid:-)
#13 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on August 15, 2003 3:02:52 am
Cut and paste from an email I just sent where I was discussing Donnie Darko with a guy I know. Some of it is relevant and it`s just thinking out loud rather than an official theory perfected and the metaphors and words polished.
//And the thing is that I think a story is embryonic universe that is given birth to by a storytellers mind. As many people read it, the osmosis begins and the ink blot becomes the handkerchief.
More people build their own interpretations and as abstract and unique the story is, it lends to so many theories that it becomes a living thing for a while at least. It becomes alive; it is too large for the creator to inhabit inside his own head and an audience ingests it and every discussion is just vomiting into the sphere of reality, where it floods one-sided, black and white perception and becomes a grand thing.
I am of the opinion that the storyteller’s own ideas, as crushing they may be to one’s own interpretation, can be a lot more than Pacman eating the seeds (or whatever the f00k they were) and leaving nothing in his wake.
But I don’t always believe that, and it is perhaps that I like to tell my own stories that I think the storyteller is a lot more than a baby-making machine, or idea-farm and that the storyteller is completely insignificant when it comes to “teller or tale” battle. Or maybe it’s my ego, so don’t count on it.
So this made up on the lam idea was constructed just so I could give paragraphs to the words that I had in my head and to explain to you what I feel about this.//
//And the thing is that I think a story is embryonic universe that is given birth to by a storytellers mind. As many people read it, the osmosis begins and the ink blot becomes the handkerchief.
More people build their own interpretations and as abstract and unique the story is, it lends to so many theories that it becomes a living thing for a while at least. It becomes alive; it is too large for the creator to inhabit inside his own head and an audience ingests it and every discussion is just vomiting into the sphere of reality, where it floods one-sided, black and white perception and becomes a grand thing.
I am of the opinion that the storyteller’s own ideas, as crushing they may be to one’s own interpretation, can be a lot more than Pacman eating the seeds (or whatever the f00k they were) and leaving nothing in his wake.
But I don’t always believe that, and it is perhaps that I like to tell my own stories that I think the storyteller is a lot more than a baby-making machine, or idea-farm and that the storyteller is completely insignificant when it comes to “teller or tale” battle. Or maybe it’s my ego, so don’t count on it.
So this made up on the lam idea was constructed just so I could give paragraphs to the words that I had in my head and to explain to you what I feel about this.//
#12 Posted by ZeeshanMahmud on August 15, 2003 1:10:50 am
Is english too difficult a language for you?
Write because no other choice is acceptable is surrendering yourself to conducting a word-opera.
Do I need to tell you that world is a cruel place where mediocrity reigns and poor standards are the norm?
Do what you like man.
Write because no other choice is acceptable is surrendering yourself to conducting a word-opera.
Do I need to tell you that world is a cruel place where mediocrity reigns and poor standards are the norm?
Do what you like man.
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