Suicide Bombers

Shame on those who support the murder of children ! Shame on those who hide behind fine phrases such as ``just cause`` and justify random killing of civilians.

Shame on this author, Waqar Talib, who justifies senseless and mindless violence. I hope soon that someone in his family or perhaps this fool himself will soon be the target of such a mindless act of violence Only then will he come to understand the senselessness of his position.

Hats off for Mr. Waqar Talib for writing an extraordinary article that not only has portrayed the hearts of the muslims but also at the right time. This article should not be necessarily taken as the muslims` view point but as a perspective, that manifests a great sense of justice, balance and insight. I wish that people from the first world country can have a look at this, and i wonder what label palestinian suicide bombers would be gifted after the people with contrary view point are going to read this.

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well said Talib Sahab.
suicide bombing is definitely an act of desperation; and acts of desperation are not always the most logically sound ones. what needs to be addressed is the circumstances that lead to such an act. calling such a person a ``homicide bomber`` won`t solve the problem.

B@stards like this author are the ones who believe in blowing up bombs in Cafes and restaurants to kill non-combatants. Also, he portrays Palestenians as throwing rocks against F16s but then does not explain a ratio of 1:3 for Iisraeli and Arab deayhs. One side uses stones against the aircraft of the other and yet manages to kill one for every three? Pretty effective stones Ii must say. Are these the stones that explode in buses and and street corners? I just read about such ``stones`` exploding in Bombay and killing a bunch of people.

This mentality is typical on incompatibility with civilization. Putting such people in concentration camps such as Gitmo and eliminating all contact with the rest of humanity is the only sensible course of action.

Re: #2 pmishra2

Mishra Jee if you cannot see the justification in killing innocent children ask the bomber how many loved ones he lost before he turned to such an act. sure it may not be the excuse, but it definitely is the reason. if you go around oppressing and killing people perhaps expecting civil behaviour from them is uncalled for.
``if you hate something, don`t you do it too...`` pearl jam, i believe.

anzar #6

So let me get this straight: it is OK to kill Israeli schoolchildren or Christians in Pakistan or some goverment peon`s family in Kashmir BECAUSE there has been some other oppressive act in the past? Even though the people being killed have no connection with it other than nationality or religion? And sometimes not even that?

This is your version of civilization? How is it different from Narendra Modi`s support for murder of muslims in Gujarat? How is it different from any form of uncivilized revenge killing?

The answer is clear. There is no difference. Suicide attacks on civilian populations represent a unique and horrific form of mass murder. PERIOD. There is nothing else to discuss. No amount of long english words or sophisticated weasel talk or silly justifications makes any difference.

Once again, I wish for every supporter of suicide bombing that they or their families would be target of such mindless violence. Soon they would come to their senses....

During my studies on ethnicity and violence in the university, i gathered a lot of respect for an Indian writer. A reknowned lady by the name of Padimis..... She had deliberated at lenght why tribes, societies and ethnic groups resort to violence. An excellent book dealing with the socio economic and political reasons for conflict and cooperation. I made frequent use of this book and the bibliography while writing a paper on the civil war in Kazhakistan. In the same stride I studied the concept of TRINITY of Clausewith in which he discussed three dimensions of strategy viz a viz Politics, Military and Society. To him the social factor was the most unpredictable and a floating phenomena bound or split by the varying degree of hate and love. To him no war could be won without winning the hearts and minds. Michel Harvard of Kings College has dealth in detail with this thesis and agrees that in the final analysis, it is the emotions and love hate relationship. Those Interested must read ``Causes of War`` by Michel to determine what I mean.

The question is not to justify violence in Palestine or to condemn it. It is to understand why people brace death with pride and why they continue to be trampled by the HAVES.

Immediately after 9/11 I wrote an article on Neo Clausewitzianism in the letter to the editors. It describes the War of Hate and this is what is happening allover the world. Extreme divides and ideologies are pitched against each other seperated by extreme economic and socio cultural divides. This hate on both sides will not end and this fiasco is there to stay for a long time.

I know Arjun will not agree but lets look at it with value neutrality.

Thanks Talib. You have shown the mirror and the ugly face of sentiments. The comments of your detracters suggest that they too abound with it.

anzar#6,

Perhaps the only reasonable criterion to apply here is - are you willing to
die or have a family member die in a suicide attack ? That should clarify
your own moral stand.

On Suicide Bombings

...there is...there was...there can be no justification...

reminds of what have said many times earlier:

...there can be no justification of any deliberate viloent act agains civilians..none whatsover...be they by individuals, organistations or states....