Just Another BLOW-UP?

#133

You disappoint me :)

I was waiting for the classic ``India`s RAW planted the bombs themselves to gain world sympathy``. After all, our guys arranged for our own parliament to be suicide-bombed right?

What`s next? Lashkar-e-toiba is an Indian group...After all we have 55 terrorist camps operating on our side.

Read and weep ...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030908-480226,00.html

The noose is tightening slowly but surely......

friend 133

I think they caught the ``perpetrator`` of these crimes, about two years ago and since then he has been in some nameless dungeon in the Kashmir valley. Now at a suitable time all police has to do is to drag his ass out of the dungeon, shoot him and plant his corpse at a bullet laden hideout. Talk about the efficiency of Indian police, eh.

So, Superwoman-with-the-XRay-vision, how long do we have to wait before we get an article from you on how the Bamiyan Buddhas never existed?

Ref nb #128

[I find it difficult to agree with a lot of what Farzana says but if we are to call ourselves a liberal democracy,we must fight for her right to say it.]

I don`t give a damn if we are called an illiberal democracy or even a theocracy. After all, we would only be emulating the Followers of The True Faith in far-flung nations such as Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, the UAE, Kuwait, etc. Can 1.2 billion Muslims be wrong? Isn`t Islam infallible? So let us give them a taste of their own medicine.

I think it is time for those who want equal rights to know that there is NO equal right to carry RDX. After all, even with its Second Amendment, the US doesn`t let you carry around RDX, dynamite, etc.

Ref dost-mittar #126

[harimou#120
...and you claim that you have nothing against Muslims in your personal life!]

Individual Muslims, I have no problem with. Collective mob of mad animals ought to be treated that way.

So, Superwoman-with-the-XRay-Eyes, why should we permit a mosque in Ayodhya if you won`t let us take even a picture of Ram into Saudi Arabia?

Do you claim that the Delhi Sultans did not destroy a SINGLE temple in all of India?

I would like straightforward answers.

Harimaou #120,
Would you kindly cut short this nonsense? Go and catch the perpetrator of these acts, if you can?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4741004-111087,00.html

Even for a region pockmarked by blasts and shootings, the scale of the bombing of Bombay raises concerns about the stability of south Asia. The city port has been rocked by a series of explosions in the last few months, but Monday`s attacks, which claimed more than 50 lives, were the biggest for nearly a decade.

In targeting India`s bustling commercial capital, the bombers struck at the heart of a nation`s economic renaissance. Those who planted the bombs were unperturbed that death would be spread among Bombay`s Hindu majority and its sizeable Muslim minority. This at a time when India and Pakistan, whose enmity is rooted in a religious divide which has lasted the 56 years since the pair were separated at birth, were talking about peace. India`s politicians have not emphatically pointed the finger of blame at Pakistan, but their words will have left few in doubt as to whom they hold responsible for the carnage.

There is no question that Pakistan is used as a base by bombers to launch attacks in Indian-administered Kashmir. In Pakistan, some have bent Islam to propagate hate - despite its message of peace. Similarly in India, Hinduism is being polluted by extremists. Last year`s riots in Gujarat confirmed that anti-Muslim prejudice could murderously explode if tended to by religious bigots. The nation`s history is also being rewritten in saffron ink - and being used to justify the razing of mosques on the grounds that they were built on Hindu temples.

India`s democracy is being battered by such forces. Damaging too is that the country`s 140m Muslims have not been lifted by India`s rising economic tide. None of this justifies the murder and mayhem. What both sides need to display is restraint. The thaw in relations between Islamabad and New Delhi has only yielded tiny improvements in relations - a bus service has restarted and diplomatic ties have been restored. But the rapprochement will get nowhere if both sides do not break free from the prison of the past. Both Pakistan and India will have to move from trading insults and shells across disputed borders and become serious about treading the road to peace. There will be elements in both countries who will seek to derail any compromise or deal. Bombay`s blasts must be seen in this light. Leaders in both nations must stop envenoming tongues and minds and offer a way, instead, to replace antipathy with amity.

#127 Harimau
I find it difficult to agree with a lot of what Farzana says but if we are to call ourselves a liberal democracy,we must fight for her right to say it.
I can`t stop thinking that your posts have become more strident recently.What has changed?Mahim is not a problem area anyway......maybe Mohammed Ali Road but cordoning them off like that would be a disaster,what have they done?And I mean the residents of the area,not unidentified militants.

Farzana,I understand the way your mind worked when you say you knew something would happen-that`s intuition, isn`t it?As well as the fact that you knew people would be unhappy with the findings,but no matter what,some people were always going to be unhappy with the ASI findings.Does that mean we should have expected something to happen anyway?I also can`t understand what you mean when you say they dug too deep-I know you have explained that,but as far as I`m concerned,they can keep going,maybe there`s something even below that.
As Dost mittar said,we can`t correct historical wrongs but it`s difficult to accept they didn`t happen.I have worshipped at Varanasi,and I`ve seen the mosque.But that doesn`t mean it should be knocked down.The mistake a lot of our ``intelligentsia`` made in the early 90s was to go on about how the existence of Ram could not be proven(like there`s concrete proof that Jesus and Mohammed walked the earth-nor does there need to be,that`s why it`s called faith)and not focus on reconciliation and healing the wounds and now we have to face the results.

re:#120 by harimau
Boy, O, boy! I do not agree with the spirit of your post. Violence is never an answer. Indians need to see what ails the people who did what they did in Bombay recently. Violence only begets more violence.
Sridhar

harimou#120
...and you claim that you have nothing against Muslims in your personal life!

Re: Farzana, 122

No I will not ask for post #120 to be removed. There is no reason for it. Let this hateful and pathetic post stand, revealing in glaring light all its ugliness for everyone to see the mindset of the interactor who wrote it.

In fact I thank Chowk for letting post #120 pass through. It does reveal quite a bit about the poster. I don`t have a problem with ugliness.

Post #120 proves my point...and also yours.

Re. #122, a clarification...it is 34 hours a day. Could have been a typo by said interactor, but the outlandishness remains.

I do not always thank people for any “help” they have rendered. Sometimes I feel so grateful that they, the emperors of piffle, do not even realise they have no clothes and in that delusionary state reveal more of what they do not have than what they do.

As they say in my country, my heartfelt thanks to one and all (of the same breed)…

And as I said earlier, I hope people don`t forget such incidents while hopping mad at others` insensitivity.

Regards,
Farzana

Dear Chowk Staff:

It is possible that you will be asked to remove post #120, just as you did an earlier one by the same interactor. The fact that this got though does indicate that there was not a huge problem to begin with or it was a systems failure. In my opinion, you have done a great service to Chowkies by retaining this post, for it reveals a certain mindset…the ones that have been consistently getting away due to their couched language will also now stand exposed.

Of course, one will be supposed to see the sarcasm and outlandishness of such a post (36 hours in a day? Heheh…knew you wouldn’t get it, you frikkin idiotic
traitor…hehehh…laughing at own silly jibe). So we must just let it stand there and stew in its own ridiculousness.

From one chowkwalli to another…

farzana

I just read `in search of the moderate muslim` and now I think I know where you are coming from...

regards

a.