Myths and Dreams: Hindutva Nationalism and the Indian Diaspora
Angana Chatterji August 26, 2003
#175 Posted by mumbaikar on December 23, 2003 10:37:58 am
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#174 Posted by rsaxena on August 31, 2003 10:59:31 am
re: stuka
{..a typo..I am actually 24. }
...sure, and i`m lex lugar...
{..a typo..I am actually 24. }
...sure, and i`m lex lugar...
#173 Posted by nasah on August 31, 2003 10:48:54 am
ok saxena -- my dear not-so-young man Stuka -- you surely cast a long net for the term left with the L word ......a new subcontinental dictionary?
#172 Posted by stuka on August 31, 2003 10:08:34 am
``...stuka is a young man at 34???....damn.... ``
a typo..I am actually 24.
a typo..I am actually 24.
#171 Posted by rsaxena on August 31, 2003 9:02:38 am
re: nasah #16
...stuka is a young man at 34???....damn....
...stuka is a young man at 34???....damn....
#170 Posted by stuka on August 31, 2003 8:19:04 am
``young man -- if left-to-leftists -- India-Pakistan will be like USA-CANADA -- it is the right`s right to DIVIDE -- that`s not right -- is the BIG problem...:-) ``
No Sir. If left to leftists, India-Pakistan will be like China and Mongolia. There will ofcourse be Hindu and Muslim unity. Both our skulls will be bleached in the sun a la Pol Pot. If we are lucky, we will share a bowl of gruel at a reducation camp for the middle class educated folks.
We may read about the right because it gets more publicity. But, in India, if you look at actual deaths and maimings, it is the Naxalites, the Maoists, People`s War Group etc that have claimed much more lives. The Leftist trail of blood starts in Eastern UP, goes to Bihar , Jharkhand, MP, Vidarbha, Parts of Andhra and is seeping through in Orissa. It is only in Bengal that a so called ``Communist`` government eradicated Naxalites by killing tens of thousands of young men in the countryside.
The Red Menace is alive and well in India. Unless free market reforms are undertaken on a war footing, and political and economic benefits start trickling down to the masses, India will face a danger that Nepal is facing right now.
No Sir. If left to leftists, India-Pakistan will be like China and Mongolia. There will ofcourse be Hindu and Muslim unity. Both our skulls will be bleached in the sun a la Pol Pot. If we are lucky, we will share a bowl of gruel at a reducation camp for the middle class educated folks.
We may read about the right because it gets more publicity. But, in India, if you look at actual deaths and maimings, it is the Naxalites, the Maoists, People`s War Group etc that have claimed much more lives. The Leftist trail of blood starts in Eastern UP, goes to Bihar , Jharkhand, MP, Vidarbha, Parts of Andhra and is seeping through in Orissa. It is only in Bengal that a so called ``Communist`` government eradicated Naxalites by killing tens of thousands of young men in the countryside.
The Red Menace is alive and well in India. Unless free market reforms are undertaken on a war footing, and political and economic benefits start trickling down to the masses, India will face a danger that Nepal is facing right now.
#169 Posted by nasah on August 31, 2003 7:41:40 am
``Maybe India and Pakistan can have Track 2 diplomacy to trade each others Leftists.``(STUKA)
young man -- if left-to-leftists -- India-Pakistan will be like USA-CANADA -- it is the right`s right to DIVIDE -- that`s not right -- is the BIG problem...:-)
young man -- if left-to-leftists -- India-Pakistan will be like USA-CANADA -- it is the right`s right to DIVIDE -- that`s not right -- is the BIG problem...:-)
#168 Posted by stuka on August 30, 2003 9:00:01 pm
``Seeing you conduct the Kashmir meeting recently in San Francisco I just wanted to
mention that you make many other South Asian`s proud. ``
:) This one makes Ras Siddiqui proud. La Roy makes Hamid Gul proud. What is it about leftists that they only make the other side proud? Maybe India and Pakistan can have Track 2 diplomacy to trade each others Leftists.
mention that you make many other South Asian`s proud. ``
:) This one makes Ras Siddiqui proud. La Roy makes Hamid Gul proud. What is it about leftists that they only make the other side proud? Maybe India and Pakistan can have Track 2 diplomacy to trade each others Leftists.
#167 Posted by Ras on August 30, 2003 4:40:10 pm
Dear Angana Chatterji,
I am very glad to find you writing here on CHOWK.
Seeing you conduct the Kashmir meeting recently in San Francisco I just wanted to
mention that you make many other South Asian`s proud.
Please continue to write here even though one feels that you have already been with us
for a while.
Ras
#166 Posted by ferozk on August 30, 2003 2:18:07 am
re: arjun-m # 150
Arjun, in the end we both agree that it is the ideals of terror, which are more dangerous than the acts of terror itself. Whether, they are taught in a madrassa or not, the problem is ideals and its indoctorination is more lethal than than the bombs or the killings.
Ciao
Arjun, in the end we both agree that it is the ideals of terror, which are more dangerous than the acts of terror itself. Whether, they are taught in a madrassa or not, the problem is ideals and its indoctorination is more lethal than than the bombs or the killings.
Ciao
#165 Posted by harimau on August 30, 2003 12:33:43 am
Ref Mantolives #121
[``The time has come to ban all conversions and start a re-conversion movement in India``
I like that about you Harimau. You don`t beat about the bush do you? Unlike your buddy P-mishra2 who tries to project himself as a liberal humanist... eventhough I suspect the dream of `reconversion` of Muslims and Christians is close his heart too...]
Well, we need our Bhangis in India. We can`t use our highly educated Christians for that purpose -- unlike you guys who have the household work assigned to the Masseys in Pakistan. So we need to re-convert the Muslims and assign them the job of carrying our excrement.
Love.
Harimau
[``The time has come to ban all conversions and start a re-conversion movement in India``
I like that about you Harimau. You don`t beat about the bush do you? Unlike your buddy P-mishra2 who tries to project himself as a liberal humanist... eventhough I suspect the dream of `reconversion` of Muslims and Christians is close his heart too...]
Well, we need our Bhangis in India. We can`t use our highly educated Christians for that purpose -- unlike you guys who have the household work assigned to the Masseys in Pakistan. So we need to re-convert the Muslims and assign them the job of carrying our excrement.
Love.
Harimau
#164 Posted by tahmed32 on August 29, 2003 8:14:35 pm
Stuka #162 It applies to all of us (self included) of course, since actions speak louder than words. The difference is between those whose words reflect their actions (as in your case, and I hope in mine too), and those whose words do not (whether it is rsaxena or arjun singing about the joys of the Good Ship India that they jumped, or naqshbandi going on about the muslim ummah, having jumped the Good Ship Pakistan, or urstruly in Detroit).
Anyway, God bless these fakes for all the fun they provide on chowk.
Anyway, God bless these fakes for all the fun they provide on chowk.
#163 Posted by rsaxena on August 29, 2003 4:04:00 pm
re: tahmed #160
...well well if it isn`t the old man from DC who has been reduced to rubble by even the one-eyed pirate romair...
...well well if it isn`t the old man from DC who has been reduced to rubble by even the one-eyed pirate romair...
#162 Posted by stuka on August 29, 2003 2:45:12 pm
TAhmed
``these two (arjun, rsaxena) are in seventh heaven having escaped from india and made it to the usa. ``
Me too. I think that goes for the majority of Indians who have left India and live in the states.
``these two (arjun, rsaxena) are in seventh heaven having escaped from india and made it to the usa. ``
Me too. I think that goes for the majority of Indians who have left India and live in the states.
#161 Posted by dost_mittar on August 29, 2003 1:29:59 pm
Manto:
I dont get any Indian or Pakistani channels here and I watch very little TV anyway. What was it about anyway?
BTW someone mentioned you are from Sargodha. Mrs. Dost-Mittar would like to meet you and your parents some day:-)
I dont get any Indian or Pakistani channels here and I watch very little TV anyway. What was it about anyway?
BTW someone mentioned you are from Sargodha. Mrs. Dost-Mittar would like to meet you and your parents some day:-)
#160 Posted by tahmed32 on August 29, 2003 1:10:21 pm
saminasha #156 are you kidding? these two (arjun, rsaxena) are in seventh heaven having escaped from india and made it to the usa.
and, if they could stand their own kind, they would be on some hindutva board and not hanging around chowk trying to prove what a great country they escaped from.
and, if they could stand their own kind, they would be on some hindutva board and not hanging around chowk trying to prove what a great country they escaped from.
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