Batool Ali September 18, 2003
#36 Posted by Godot on September 22, 2003 8:26:00 pm
Semi, 34
Yes I know...glad you took it in good spirit :)
#35 Posted by semipreciousme on September 22, 2003 11:35:10 am
...godot...lol...pun def. NOT intended...and yes, bat, i agree...emphasis should be on fun part...
#34 Posted by PM on September 22, 2003 11:35:10 am
So waht if some people have more money than they know how to reasonably (ok, that`s subjective) spend? Or have a bigger need to keep up with the Joneses than they have spending sense? At least such big tamasha-type weddings help the economy-- hundreds of lower-income folks benefit from the affair.
What is sad, and needs to be checked, is when these lower-income folks feel obligated to do the same. Towards this end, limiting the number of guests (rather than taking ALL joy away from the affair by banning the serving of meals) would probably be a good idea, though not without its pitfalls too.
What is sad, and needs to be checked, is when these lower-income folks feel obligated to do the same. Towards this end, limiting the number of guests (rather than taking ALL joy away from the affair by banning the serving of meals) would probably be a good idea, though not without its pitfalls too.
#33 Posted by bat on September 22, 2003 9:32:26 am
semipreciousme:
actually i agree with you - im not saying dont have fun. Infact i think the dholkis` that precede the mehndi, shadi are the best part of the wedding. I just have a problem with the Rs. 1 lakh jora, the Rs.1 lakh stage and so forth. why spend so much money on these things that are not only unneccessary (and one can get a decent stage and outfit for cheaper) , they are very short lived. What purpose does the stage done in imported flowers(that will not last long either) serve? it amuses poeple , certainly you get oohs and aahs and it dispays ones status - but why are those things even important?
actually i agree with you - im not saying dont have fun. Infact i think the dholkis` that precede the mehndi, shadi are the best part of the wedding. I just have a problem with the Rs. 1 lakh jora, the Rs.1 lakh stage and so forth. why spend so much money on these things that are not only unneccessary (and one can get a decent stage and outfit for cheaper) , they are very short lived. What purpose does the stage done in imported flowers(that will not last long either) serve? it amuses poeple , certainly you get oohs and aahs and it dispays ones status - but why are those things even important?
#31 Posted by MantoLives on September 21, 2003 6:35:47 pm
another public defender of decency... the less said the better..
context.. people.. context!
context.. people.. context!
#30 Posted by Godot on September 21, 2003 5:54:43 pm
semipreciousme, #28
``you only get married once...so might as well do it with a bang``
Ahem...!!!
Sorry, Semi...couldn`t resist...!!!
#29 Posted by semipreciousme on September 21, 2003 1:00:35 pm
...call it hedonism or selfishness, but i don`t see what`s wrong with big weddings...hell, you only get married once (hopefully) so might as well do it with a bang...ok, i agree that the shrimp flown in from thailand and the flowers from singapore are a bit too much...but nothng wrong with having nice surrondings, good music/dj, great food, etc...i want ppl to have FUN at my wedding...
#28 Posted by ZahraJ on September 21, 2003 1:00:35 pm
Yasser urf Mantolives:
Why are you being so rude to Nazar? We all are entitled to our own point of views but that does not mean slapping the other person right in their face for having the same entitlement. Please take something to balance your hormones, apparently they are out of balance.
Good Luck!
Why are you being so rude to Nazar? We all are entitled to our own point of views but that does not mean slapping the other person right in their face for having the same entitlement. Please take something to balance your hormones, apparently they are out of balance.
Good Luck!
#27 Posted by MantoLives on September 21, 2003 8:07:35 am
interesting... so now you are a psychologist too...
That is an old chowk approach... atleast you are now full fledge chowkie..
That is an old chowk approach... atleast you are now full fledge chowkie..
#26 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on September 21, 2003 5:51:16 am
Batool
That was a good article. Sorry for a little pulling off the thread. There will be no more irrelevant post from me.
Manto # 24 & 25
I confess there was a little hidden trigger in my post. And you fell right into the trap - with an explosive outburst bordering, for want of a better word, on schizophrenia.
See how easy it is to get you through the roof - and then you drive the others nuts with anger. Some other Chowkies also have had such complaints - but with no clinical diagnosis. All of us suffer from schizophrenic behaviour at times - may be in a milder state, it is beneficial also.
No one is your enemy - no one is accusing you. People are different - it is OK to be different. People have different views - it is OK to have different. People say dumb things, it is part of life. There is no issue or cause on Chowk which is worth losing one`s sleep or balance. Accommodation, tolerance, adjustments, fleibility are all the things that you are going to need in the new chapter of your life.
You are great guy - very expressive - very direct - you only need to have cool nerves and an anger management technique.
Best wishes
#25 Posted by MantoLives on September 20, 2003 10:37:52 pm
I suppose one can`t expect anything better from a person who dismisses the Ayesha Jalal/Cambridge View as ``Pakistani nationalism``... and then claims to be `stark naked with the truth`....
#24 Posted by MantoLives on September 20, 2003 10:33:21 pm
Military Buffoon aka NHK #23
You wrote to me:
``South Asia - that is a refreshing and a welcome change - beyong the cocooned nationalistic fixations.``
This is why I get pissed off at people like you. I have been clamouring for Pakistan-India friendship and South Asian block longer than you`ve been around on Chowk. You are the one who dismisses the Cambridge View as `Pakistani Nationalism.` Your utter and total ignorance is behind your views which are not even the most fanatical hindu nationalist doesn`t hold.
Why do you think people like Dost Mittar and Stuka think of my views so highly.. you yourself accepted them as gurus... isn`t there something wrong in your logic here? According to you Stuka and Dost Mittar are ok, but the person they almost always agree with 100% is caught up in a cocoon of `nationalism`? The reason for your utter misunderstanding of my point of view... is your inability to read... the fact that your braincells seem to tire when you are actually reading something other than your convulsions. This is owing to your simplistic military training.
I can`t believe your post #23... which is only reflective of your inherent stupidity.
-YLH
You wrote to me:
``South Asia - that is a refreshing and a welcome change - beyong the cocooned nationalistic fixations.``
This is why I get pissed off at people like you. I have been clamouring for Pakistan-India friendship and South Asian block longer than you`ve been around on Chowk. You are the one who dismisses the Cambridge View as `Pakistani Nationalism.` Your utter and total ignorance is behind your views which are not even the most fanatical hindu nationalist doesn`t hold.
Why do you think people like Dost Mittar and Stuka think of my views so highly.. you yourself accepted them as gurus... isn`t there something wrong in your logic here? According to you Stuka and Dost Mittar are ok, but the person they almost always agree with 100% is caught up in a cocoon of `nationalism`? The reason for your utter misunderstanding of my point of view... is your inability to read... the fact that your braincells seem to tire when you are actually reading something other than your convulsions. This is owing to your simplistic military training.
I can`t believe your post #23... which is only reflective of your inherent stupidity.
-YLH
#23 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on September 20, 2003 10:16:33 pm
Manto # 17
(Think Pakistani .. Think South Asian... be proud of Pakistan and South Asia.)
South Asia - that is a refreshing and a welcome change - beyong the cocooned nationalistic fixations.
The next step is even more universal - thinking as a human being - beyond the idealogies & personalities.
That is the human experience of learning, experiencing and growing. And not becoming a prisoner to mind-sets.
#22 Posted by cipram on September 20, 2003 8:28:21 pm
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#21 Posted by ZahraJ on September 20, 2003 6:02:10 pm
Another worth mentioning point: Jewellery is supposed to be worn to adorn yourself vs. exhibit a collection. A few weeks back this subject was brought up in a different gathering where some Italian American friends shared their family`s age old traditions. The take away was very interesting. The mother, in her early 70s, spoke about the significance of rings and bracelets since she was wearing many rings.
``Rings... signify... infinity`` the elderly lady spoke in a very pensive mood.
``Does it has to be a ring to imply infinity?`` someone questioned.
``No, it doesn`t!`` she responsed a little uncomfortably and looked very deeply right into the questioner`s eyes. With a little pause, she came back, ``Each person may have a different way of determining infinity. And, the ring may not mean infinity to everyone. But whatever they choose, it has to be strong and lasting.`` After sharing the above, the elderly lady with a very impressive and aristocratic persona, felt very comfortable and content. All of us around the table could sense that.
``Rings... signify... infinity`` the elderly lady spoke in a very pensive mood.
``Does it has to be a ring to imply infinity?`` someone questioned.
``No, it doesn`t!`` she responsed a little uncomfortably and looked very deeply right into the questioner`s eyes. With a little pause, she came back, ``Each person may have a different way of determining infinity. And, the ring may not mean infinity to everyone. But whatever they choose, it has to be strong and lasting.`` After sharing the above, the elderly lady with a very impressive and aristocratic persona, felt very comfortable and content. All of us around the table could sense that.
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