Farzana Versey September 8, 2003
#205 Posted by rsridhar on September 11, 2003 8:50:38 am
re:#191 by Faruk
I was talking about the Bangladesh problem in a religious sense. Hindus in India do not react the way muslims would to the atrocities on hindu minorities in Bangladesh. Such atrocities are well documented and real and are due to religious hatred. The political fall out of all this (increased migration to India, change in demography etc) is of course India`s problem. Should India intervene and send troops into Bangladesh because atrocities are being committed on the hindu population in Bangladesh? I do not think so.
Sridhar
I was talking about the Bangladesh problem in a religious sense. Hindus in India do not react the way muslims would to the atrocities on hindu minorities in Bangladesh. Such atrocities are well documented and real and are due to religious hatred. The political fall out of all this (increased migration to India, change in demography etc) is of course India`s problem. Should India intervene and send troops into Bangladesh because atrocities are being committed on the hindu population in Bangladesh? I do not think so.
Sridhar
#204 Posted by rsridhar on September 11, 2003 8:50:38 am
re:#198 by stuka
Palestenians (with help of Hamas and other terrorist organizations) are waging their struggle in a way that makes ``violent backlash`` by Israelis inevitable. So, what is the purpose of killing innocent Israelis in the first place? Palestenians are nowhere near achieving their objective than they were say in the 60s when they started the ``violent struggle``.
Farzana Bibi asked me in a post if there was anyother way possible. Of course there is a way.
For many decades now, Dalai Lama and his followers have been peacefully protesting against the brutal occupation and atrocites perpetrated by Chinese upon the Tibetan nation and its people. Their`s is a just cause too but the way they are protesting is so different. Perhaps, they too are nowhere near realising their dream of a seperate homeland but they have world`s respect. Dalai Lama is a much respected figure all over the world. Yasser Arafat is a terrorist in the eyes of all but the muslim population. I will never have sympathies for the suicide bombers, however just their cause may be.
Sridhar
Palestenians (with help of Hamas and other terrorist organizations) are waging their struggle in a way that makes ``violent backlash`` by Israelis inevitable. So, what is the purpose of killing innocent Israelis in the first place? Palestenians are nowhere near achieving their objective than they were say in the 60s when they started the ``violent struggle``.
Farzana Bibi asked me in a post if there was anyother way possible. Of course there is a way.
For many decades now, Dalai Lama and his followers have been peacefully protesting against the brutal occupation and atrocites perpetrated by Chinese upon the Tibetan nation and its people. Their`s is a just cause too but the way they are protesting is so different. Perhaps, they too are nowhere near realising their dream of a seperate homeland but they have world`s respect. Dalai Lama is a much respected figure all over the world. Yasser Arafat is a terrorist in the eyes of all but the muslim population. I will never have sympathies for the suicide bombers, however just their cause may be.
Sridhar
#203 Posted by rsridhar on September 11, 2003 8:50:38 am
re:#200 by dionysus
I do not intend to interact with morons like you. Go back to rocking on the floor back and forth in front of your Holy Qoran. You better memorise your verses well. I hear Mullah Omar is on an inspection tour of the madrassa you are in and will be asking some tough questions. Read the chapters on ``Jihad`` and ``how to kill kafirs``. That will help you pass the exams.
Sridhar
I do not intend to interact with morons like you. Go back to rocking on the floor back and forth in front of your Holy Qoran. You better memorise your verses well. I hear Mullah Omar is on an inspection tour of the madrassa you are in and will be asking some tough questions. Read the chapters on ``Jihad`` and ``how to kill kafirs``. That will help you pass the exams.
Sridhar
#202 Posted by pmishra2 on September 11, 2003 8:50:38 am
#201 Doofus
You know I agree with you. India isn`t really a country at all !! It is just a bunch of hindu beggars who have grabbed some land. The sooner the ISI kills all of them off, the better off we will all be.
Good work ! Why not move on and work on some other problems suitable for your genius? Maybe the Unified Field Theory? Or Quantum Cryptography? I am sure you will be able make similar astounding progress in those arenas. I can give you pointers to the relevant journals. Don`t waste your time on retards like us.
You know I agree with you. India isn`t really a country at all !! It is just a bunch of hindu beggars who have grabbed some land. The sooner the ISI kills all of them off, the better off we will all be.
Good work ! Why not move on and work on some other problems suitable for your genius? Maybe the Unified Field Theory? Or Quantum Cryptography? I am sure you will be able make similar astounding progress in those arenas. I can give you pointers to the relevant journals. Don`t waste your time on retards like us.
#201 Posted by dionysus on September 11, 2003 8:27:52 am
#187
Dear rsridhar,
First a fevered fit and now a very nasty bout of verbal diarrhea. You not feeling too well, buddy?
Take some medication, tuck into bed and get some rest. When you`re feeling better, come back here and explain to us how the whole of the subcontinent, with it`s HUGE number of distinct races with absolutely nothing in common with each other, is a nation called `India`.
Thanks and get well soon.
Dear rsridhar,
First a fevered fit and now a very nasty bout of verbal diarrhea. You not feeling too well, buddy?
Take some medication, tuck into bed and get some rest. When you`re feeling better, come back here and explain to us how the whole of the subcontinent, with it`s HUGE number of distinct races with absolutely nothing in common with each other, is a nation called `India`.
Thanks and get well soon.
#200 Posted by dionysus on September 11, 2003 8:27:52 am
stuka #195 ``The fact that there exists a broader definition of nationhood then what is in your benighted mind. ``
Oh yeah? Not race, not language, not history, not identity, not culture, not blood...so what exactly is this mysterious `broader definition`` of nationhood? Please share your deep and secret knowledge with us benighted lesser mortals.
``BTW, it is a pleasure to be called a fuckwit by a moron like you``
I`m glad you liked the name, you certainly earned it! :)
Oh yeah? Not race, not language, not history, not identity, not culture, not blood...so what exactly is this mysterious `broader definition`` of nationhood? Please share your deep and secret knowledge with us benighted lesser mortals.
``BTW, it is a pleasure to be called a fuckwit by a moron like you``
I`m glad you liked the name, you certainly earned it! :)
#199 Posted by rsridhar on September 11, 2003 8:27:51 am
re:#189 by Faruk
Dear Sir,
I said ``most muslims`` and not ``all muslims``.
No, i did not use a scientific opinion poll but then, neither did you. We go only by impressions. Impressions formed from interacting with a community over many years in India (i lived in Delhi most of my life but also spent fair amount of time in Bombay, Madras) must mean something.
Sridhar
Dear Sir,
I said ``most muslims`` and not ``all muslims``.
No, i did not use a scientific opinion poll but then, neither did you. We go only by impressions. Impressions formed from interacting with a community over many years in India (i lived in Delhi most of my life but also spent fair amount of time in Bombay, Madras) must mean something.
Sridhar
#198 Posted by stuka on September 11, 2003 7:56:15 am
RSridhar:
My article tore at your heart? Okay. Just for you to know that the Israelis do the same to the Palestenians as well, every day.
My point in pasting that article was not to show the moral superiority of the Israelis, but the moral repugnance of both sides. Those people deserve each other. Waisey, I am all for America taking a more balanced approach BUT NOT if the balanced approach means annihilation of Israel like Hamas and IJ want.
Soyasauce: Arafat had his time and is now irrelavent. Hhe either encourages suicide bombings or is ineffective against them. Regardless, the main Palestenian player in this eqation now is Hamas followed by IJ in the occupied territories and Hezbollah on the Lebanese border.
BTW, why is no one condemoning lebanese Hezbollah for firing rockets into Israel even after Israel withdrew? Is that not morally repugnant ya Arab loving freaks?
My article tore at your heart? Okay. Just for you to know that the Israelis do the same to the Palestenians as well, every day.
My point in pasting that article was not to show the moral superiority of the Israelis, but the moral repugnance of both sides. Those people deserve each other. Waisey, I am all for America taking a more balanced approach BUT NOT if the balanced approach means annihilation of Israel like Hamas and IJ want.
Soyasauce: Arafat had his time and is now irrelavent. Hhe either encourages suicide bombings or is ineffective against them. Regardless, the main Palestenian player in this eqation now is Hamas followed by IJ in the occupied territories and Hezbollah on the Lebanese border.
BTW, why is no one condemoning lebanese Hezbollah for firing rockets into Israel even after Israel withdrew? Is that not morally repugnant ya Arab loving freaks?
#197 Posted by SR on September 11, 2003 7:26:14 am
anuradha, Farzana, Faruk, harimau
Thank you very much for your feedback. Gives a good starting point. This is a good kid and a smart one. Engineering is just what the kid wants to do and the father, a nice man who is a tour guide, does not have the wherewithall to cough up Rs. 2.5 lakh annually so he needs some help. It occurred to me that there must be better (and perhaps even cheaper) options in India. Your comments have helped a lot. Thanks again.
...SR
Thank you very much for your feedback. Gives a good starting point. This is a good kid and a smart one. Engineering is just what the kid wants to do and the father, a nice man who is a tour guide, does not have the wherewithall to cough up Rs. 2.5 lakh annually so he needs some help. It occurred to me that there must be better (and perhaps even cheaper) options in India. Your comments have helped a lot. Thanks again.
...SR
#196 Posted by stuka on September 11, 2003 7:04:34 am
Farzana:
You are posting links of excellent colleges like VJTI and IIT. Bechara Nepali hai, he will have a hard time getting in. More helpful would someplece like BYTCO College Nasik Road, Deolali Camp. :)
Just kidding ;-)
You are posting links of excellent colleges like VJTI and IIT. Bechara Nepali hai, he will have a hard time getting in. More helpful would someplece like BYTCO College Nasik Road, Deolali Camp. :)
Just kidding ;-)
#195 Posted by stuka on September 11, 2003 7:00:19 am
Dumbass Dionysus:
``Absolutely! What makes you think otherwise? ``
The fact that there exists a broader definition of nationhood then what is in your benighted mind.
BTW, it is a pleasure to be called a fuckwit by a moron like you. ``Fuckwit`` huh? Have you been reading some Viz lately?
``Absolutely! What makes you think otherwise? ``
The fact that there exists a broader definition of nationhood then what is in your benighted mind.
BTW, it is a pleasure to be called a fuckwit by a moron like you. ``Fuckwit`` huh? Have you been reading some Viz lately?
#194 Posted by harimau on September 11, 2003 6:50:53 am
Ref anuradha #181
[#178 by SR
engineering? The IITs are the best, next on the list comes the Birla Institute of Technological Sciences, Pilani and after that the Regional Engineering Colleges. Very very tough to get into any of them; only the most brilliant students can manage it.]
However, if you would want to find an institution directly banned by the US (from export of sensitive equipment) after the 1998 nuclear tests, I suggest the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. Not a single IIT figured on that list of approximately 300 institutions in India.
By the way, Bangalore, the Silicon Valley of India, does not have an IIT. None of the IITs have a Silicon Gulch anywhere near them.
These happen to be matters of fact, not opinion.
[#178 by SR
engineering? The IITs are the best, next on the list comes the Birla Institute of Technological Sciences, Pilani and after that the Regional Engineering Colleges. Very very tough to get into any of them; only the most brilliant students can manage it.]
However, if you would want to find an institution directly banned by the US (from export of sensitive equipment) after the 1998 nuclear tests, I suggest the Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore. Not a single IIT figured on that list of approximately 300 institutions in India.
By the way, Bangalore, the Silicon Valley of India, does not have an IIT. None of the IITs have a Silicon Gulch anywhere near them.
These happen to be matters of fact, not opinion.
#193 Posted by harimau on September 11, 2003 6:50:52 am
Ref inji-kari-kuzhambu #175
Wow, you are back from your vacation in Tamil Nadu, are you? I missed you on Chowk.
How was the visit to the Khushbambika Temple? Did you sacrifice a goat there before Jayalalitha`s ban on animal sacrifices at temples?
[It`s a crying shame that Sharon got invited.]
I see you got your daily fix of ``The Anti-Hindu`` while you were in Tamil Nadu.
[Israel is as democratic as apartheid south africa was. Democracy is no virtue if the people casting the votes are racists as zionists are. Modi`s government was democratically elected too.]
On the other hand, you ignore the racist propoganda of the Doctor Artist Leader -- oops, excuse me; the Artist Leader, he doesn`t want to be called Doctor anymore -- on the basis that HE was democratically elected the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
[Now for some reality check.]
This is a joke, right? I mean, you have just emerged from that vast reality distortion field called Tamil Nadu.
[Europe is in the way of total annihilation of the palestinians. When they too give in, Palestinians will be history.]
Ah yes. As some wag said, the Germans haven`t forgiven the Jews for Auschwitz.
Wow, you are back from your vacation in Tamil Nadu, are you? I missed you on Chowk.
How was the visit to the Khushbambika Temple? Did you sacrifice a goat there before Jayalalitha`s ban on animal sacrifices at temples?
[It`s a crying shame that Sharon got invited.]
I see you got your daily fix of ``The Anti-Hindu`` while you were in Tamil Nadu.
[Israel is as democratic as apartheid south africa was. Democracy is no virtue if the people casting the votes are racists as zionists are. Modi`s government was democratically elected too.]
On the other hand, you ignore the racist propoganda of the Doctor Artist Leader -- oops, excuse me; the Artist Leader, he doesn`t want to be called Doctor anymore -- on the basis that HE was democratically elected the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.
[Now for some reality check.]
This is a joke, right? I mean, you have just emerged from that vast reality distortion field called Tamil Nadu.
[Europe is in the way of total annihilation of the palestinians. When they too give in, Palestinians will be history.]
Ah yes. As some wag said, the Germans haven`t forgiven the Jews for Auschwitz.
#192 Posted by harimau on September 11, 2003 6:50:42 am
Ref dionysus #182
[Give me honest fascists like stuka and harimau, any day! ]
That`s the problem, you see, when you atart searching for honest men!
Stick to the crowd you like best such as those consisting of Butt-Fakhrs.
[Give me honest fascists like stuka and harimau, any day! ]
That`s the problem, you see, when you atart searching for honest men!
Stick to the crowd you like best such as those consisting of Butt-Fakhrs.
#191 Posted by Faruk on September 11, 2003 6:50:42 am
Re : rsridhar #161
`` Most muslims in India do not have a sense of nationhood and are caught in this dilemma: nation or Islam? ``
Did you use some scientific poll to come to this conclusion ? I happen to know a few Muslims my self and have never heard of such a delema.
Regards,
Faruk
`` Most muslims in India do not have a sense of nationhood and are caught in this dilemma: nation or Islam? ``
Did you use some scientific poll to come to this conclusion ? I happen to know a few Muslims my self and have never heard of such a delema.
Regards,
Faruk
#190 Posted by Faruk on September 11, 2003 6:50:42 am
Re : rsridhar #161
`` most hindus may sympathise with the plight of hindus in Bangladesh but nothing more can be done as it is an internal matter of Bangladesh.? ``
India has managed to effect positive changes in Bangladesh. Its in our interest that Bangladesh is a plural, tolerant democratic state. I am not sure why feel this is an internal matter of Bangladesh. The refugees flow into India. Ever heard of the Assam problem ?
Regards,
Faruk
`` most hindus may sympathise with the plight of hindus in Bangladesh but nothing more can be done as it is an internal matter of Bangladesh.? ``
India has managed to effect positive changes in Bangladesh. Its in our interest that Bangladesh is a plural, tolerant democratic state. I am not sure why feel this is an internal matter of Bangladesh. The refugees flow into India. Ever heard of the Assam problem ?
Regards,
Faruk
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