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Farzana Versey September 8, 2003
#97 Posted by rsridhar on September 9, 2003 11:34:07 am
re:#78 by dost-mittar
If India can welcome a military dictator who came to power thr` a coup and got himself proclaimed as the President (for the puprpose of protocol) before coming to Agra, why not welcome Sharon who is the democratically elected head of Israel and a much respected figure in that country?
Sridhar
If India can welcome a military dictator who came to power thr` a coup and got himself proclaimed as the President (for the puprpose of protocol) before coming to Agra, why not welcome Sharon who is the democratically elected head of Israel and a much respected figure in that country?
Sridhar
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#98 Posted by Romair on September 9, 2003 11:38:36 am
SR #89: ``Is it true that the record holders in suicide bombings are Palastinians? Or could the Tamils also make that claim? Hope someone has the facts and figuers handy because I don`t feel like digging them out. Just curious...``
SR, I will provide you with this fact, if you agree to provide some more info like the one you provided about who owns the Fed.
By far, the highest no. of suicide bombings have been by the Tamil Tigers. There is no other organization that even comes close. In fact, the Tamil Tigers have carried out many times more suicide bombings than the rest of the organizations in the world combined.
“The Tamil Tigers are notorious for their suicide attacks, and the LTTE has carried out at least five times more such attacks than other similar organisations put together.” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/526407.stm)
I believe the Tamil Tigers are predominantly Hindu.
“Some 80 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 90 percent of the Indian Tamils are Hindus. They have little contact with Buddhism, and they worship the Hindu pantheon of gods.” (http://www.1upinfo.com/country-guide-study/sri-lanka/sri-lanka61.html)
They are related to India, through two means a) they were initially supported by Indian govt. b) and I believe continue to be supported financially by some Indian Tamils.
“Different Indian administrations have been responsible for training and arming the Tamil rebels in the past in different parts of the sub-continent…..With the expansion of the international wing of the LTTE, which operates from London and Paris,” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/526407.stm)
I am not saying this to offend our Indian colleagues, but just to clarify some facts, and point out how international propoganda can completely influence people’s views, on who is doing what. Indian Hindus pointing to Muslims as suicide bombers thus becomes an ironic statement, since India and Hindus are the most closely associated with the biggest suicide bombing organization in the world.
In my personal view, violence and freedom and terrorism has no religion. It is not a religious problem, but a political problem.
On another note, there is one point I disagree with you on, somewhat. Some fraction of suicide is involved in every military action. People holding the fort till the end know they will die. Many of the WW I trench attacks were almost suicidal. Hence, a more important criteria against which attacks should be measured is whom they are targeting and the cause behind them. Attacks against civilians are terrorism; doesn’t matter if they are suicidal or not. And attacks against an occupying force’s military are a freedom fight; doesn’t matter if they are suicidal or not.
SR, I will provide you with this fact, if you agree to provide some more info like the one you provided about who owns the Fed.
By far, the highest no. of suicide bombings have been by the Tamil Tigers. There is no other organization that even comes close. In fact, the Tamil Tigers have carried out many times more suicide bombings than the rest of the organizations in the world combined.
“The Tamil Tigers are notorious for their suicide attacks, and the LTTE has carried out at least five times more such attacks than other similar organisations put together.” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/526407.stm)
I believe the Tamil Tigers are predominantly Hindu.
“Some 80 percent of the Sri Lankan Tamils and 90 percent of the Indian Tamils are Hindus. They have little contact with Buddhism, and they worship the Hindu pantheon of gods.” (http://www.1upinfo.com/country-guide-study/sri-lanka/sri-lanka61.html)
They are related to India, through two means a) they were initially supported by Indian govt. b) and I believe continue to be supported financially by some Indian Tamils.
“Different Indian administrations have been responsible for training and arming the Tamil rebels in the past in different parts of the sub-continent…..With the expansion of the international wing of the LTTE, which operates from London and Paris,” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/526407.stm)
I am not saying this to offend our Indian colleagues, but just to clarify some facts, and point out how international propoganda can completely influence people’s views, on who is doing what. Indian Hindus pointing to Muslims as suicide bombers thus becomes an ironic statement, since India and Hindus are the most closely associated with the biggest suicide bombing organization in the world.
In my personal view, violence and freedom and terrorism has no religion. It is not a religious problem, but a political problem.
On another note, there is one point I disagree with you on, somewhat. Some fraction of suicide is involved in every military action. People holding the fort till the end know they will die. Many of the WW I trench attacks were almost suicidal. Hence, a more important criteria against which attacks should be measured is whom they are targeting and the cause behind them. Attacks against civilians are terrorism; doesn’t matter if they are suicidal or not. And attacks against an occupying force’s military are a freedom fight; doesn’t matter if they are suicidal or not.
#99 Posted by stuka on September 9, 2003 11:58:56 am
Farzana:
You and I have a disagreement on the purpose of foreign policy.
``Do you think Indians ought not to have an opinion regarding sending troops to Iraq?``
Indians can have whatever opinion they want, but the Republic of India should not concern itself with what it cannot influence regardless, especially if there is no strategic consequence to it. Otherwise, all we would do is continue the complete irrelevance we enjoyed during Nehruvian times.
Look at India`s history in foreign policy terms. We were a nation of Bhikaris, begging bowl in one hand, the staff of moral supremacy in the other, utterly convinced of our greatness and reduced to complete irrelevence by the rest of the world. This was India in Nehru`s time. Criticizing America on one day, begging for wheat the other. Talking big about democracy but keeping shut when Soviet tanks crushed Poles, Hungarians and Afghans because we were dependent on them for defense. Our entire ``moral`` foreign policy was a farce simply because we did not have the strength to back it up.
Post Nehru/Indira Gandhi, at least slowly, we are beginning to realize the futility of moral lectures if not backed by money and guns, in that order.
So fine, show concern for others...as long as it does not come in the way of accruing benefits. If Iindia criticizes Zimbabwe`s Mugabe, hey..go for it..Ain`t got nothing to lose. But in case of Israel, we do have benefits to accrue, or opportunities we can lose, depending on our foreign policy.
You have to understand though..I am not saying that your opinion as a private citizen is invalid, I am saying the state should have a higher consideration in mind.
You and I have a disagreement on the purpose of foreign policy.
``Do you think Indians ought not to have an opinion regarding sending troops to Iraq?``
Indians can have whatever opinion they want, but the Republic of India should not concern itself with what it cannot influence regardless, especially if there is no strategic consequence to it. Otherwise, all we would do is continue the complete irrelevance we enjoyed during Nehruvian times.
Look at India`s history in foreign policy terms. We were a nation of Bhikaris, begging bowl in one hand, the staff of moral supremacy in the other, utterly convinced of our greatness and reduced to complete irrelevence by the rest of the world. This was India in Nehru`s time. Criticizing America on one day, begging for wheat the other. Talking big about democracy but keeping shut when Soviet tanks crushed Poles, Hungarians and Afghans because we were dependent on them for defense. Our entire ``moral`` foreign policy was a farce simply because we did not have the strength to back it up.
Post Nehru/Indira Gandhi, at least slowly, we are beginning to realize the futility of moral lectures if not backed by money and guns, in that order.
So fine, show concern for others...as long as it does not come in the way of accruing benefits. If Iindia criticizes Zimbabwe`s Mugabe, hey..go for it..Ain`t got nothing to lose. But in case of Israel, we do have benefits to accrue, or opportunities we can lose, depending on our foreign policy.
You have to understand though..I am not saying that your opinion as a private citizen is invalid, I am saying the state should have a higher consideration in mind.
#100 Posted by stuka on September 9, 2003 12:05:41 pm
romair: It is not others but the Palestenians (some of them) who have given a religious twist to suicide bombings. For example, Fatah does suicide bombings as well, but does not talk about the bomber going to heaven for Jihad. However, Islamic Jihad and Hamas do.
Suicide bombings were done by the Japanese as well, in the form of Kamikazes. But the Palestenian organizations are the first to give a religious twist to their suicide bombings, thereby making others think of Islam as a religion of violence / or at least one that condones suicide bombings.
Naqshbandi: You wanna know something funny? Your post...is the exact reason fundamentalist christian groups in America support Israel. They believe that for the Anti Christ / One Eyed Dajjal to appear, all Jews must be present in the holy land. They support Iisrael unconditionally becuase they believe it is a prequisite for the death of all the Jews and the end of the world. So, go figure..
Suicide bombings were done by the Japanese as well, in the form of Kamikazes. But the Palestenian organizations are the first to give a religious twist to their suicide bombings, thereby making others think of Islam as a religion of violence / or at least one that condones suicide bombings.
Naqshbandi: You wanna know something funny? Your post...is the exact reason fundamentalist christian groups in America support Israel. They believe that for the Anti Christ / One Eyed Dajjal to appear, all Jews must be present in the holy land. They support Iisrael unconditionally becuase they believe it is a prequisite for the death of all the Jews and the end of the world. So, go figure..
#101 Posted by dost_mittar on September 9, 2003 12:34:44 pm
Alephnull:
``Is he really a symbol of hatred for all Muslims?``
Actually, he is hated by all protagonists of human rights, but more so by Muslims since they are the primary victims of his vicious acts.
As for whether ``loudmouths`` represent the Muslim majority on this issue, does one have to conduct a poll to find out? Have you seen any Muslim leader of India, of any political stripe, who has come out in support of this controversial visit?
Romair:
In sheer viciousness, Tamil suiciders take the cake [there goes the stereotype of the coward Hindu and Madrasi!].
It would be acceptable to compare the Palestinian suicide bombers to the Tamil tigers, but not to the WTC or any other Umma type suiciders. Like Palestine, Tamil cause is ethnic-linguistic (tamil versus singhalese) and not religious. There is no religious issue between the tamil hindus and Sri Lankan buddhists. Some of the most vociferous spokespersons of both the Tigers and the Palestinians are christian tamils and christian arabs respectively.
But there is a significant difference. Unlike jihadis, no tamil suidide bomber evoked the name of religion to justify their act. The woman who killed Rajiv did not do so because he was a parsi/hindu/christian (nobody knows for sure!) but because he sent Indian troops against them.
And Romair was economical with truth about the Indian support of the tigers. The support, condemnable though covert and short-lived, was limited to Tamil Nadu with strong cultural, linguistic and historic bonds. Religion had absolutely nothing to do with it, as Hindus in general were totally indifferent to it. And no Hindu protested when Rajiv sent his army to train their guns on the Hindu Tigers.
``Is he really a symbol of hatred for all Muslims?``
Actually, he is hated by all protagonists of human rights, but more so by Muslims since they are the primary victims of his vicious acts.
As for whether ``loudmouths`` represent the Muslim majority on this issue, does one have to conduct a poll to find out? Have you seen any Muslim leader of India, of any political stripe, who has come out in support of this controversial visit?
Romair:
In sheer viciousness, Tamil suiciders take the cake [there goes the stereotype of the coward Hindu and Madrasi!].
It would be acceptable to compare the Palestinian suicide bombers to the Tamil tigers, but not to the WTC or any other Umma type suiciders. Like Palestine, Tamil cause is ethnic-linguistic (tamil versus singhalese) and not religious. There is no religious issue between the tamil hindus and Sri Lankan buddhists. Some of the most vociferous spokespersons of both the Tigers and the Palestinians are christian tamils and christian arabs respectively.
But there is a significant difference. Unlike jihadis, no tamil suidide bomber evoked the name of religion to justify their act. The woman who killed Rajiv did not do so because he was a parsi/hindu/christian (nobody knows for sure!) but because he sent Indian troops against them.
And Romair was economical with truth about the Indian support of the tigers. The support, condemnable though covert and short-lived, was limited to Tamil Nadu with strong cultural, linguistic and historic bonds. Religion had absolutely nothing to do with it, as Hindus in general were totally indifferent to it. And no Hindu protested when Rajiv sent his army to train their guns on the Hindu Tigers.
#102 Posted by sri on September 9, 2003 12:42:47 pm
#98 by Romair
`` Indian Hindus pointing to Muslims as suicide bombers thus becomes an ironic statement, since India and Hindus are the most closely associated with the biggest suicide bombing organization in the world. ``
Hmmm..... I am breaking my head to recall when Tamils used their holy books to justify or explain any of the suicide bombings they have done. It just doesn`t come to my memory when Tamils sweared by their holy books to commit suicide bombings thus linking their religion to their actions. May be my memory is limited but may be you remember better... please let us know.
By the way, wasn`t it during the Rajiv Gandhi administration that Indians carried out peace keeping operations in Srilanka and lost couple of thousands of troops fighting the LTTE ?
Sure, doesn`t history, according to Mullah Romair logic, tell us how India and holy hindu scriptures are linked to LTTE suicide bombings.
I just want to say onething.... Only stupid people justify their worse actions by pointing to someone else who is worst.
#103 Posted by Pakfin on September 9, 2003 12:43:33 pm
The Palestine issue has very little to do with religion. It is simply a territorial issue with immigrants forcing local inhabitatnts out.
#104 Posted by Pakfin on September 9, 2003 12:44:38 pm
By the way do people remember that it were troops led by a Paksitani Brigadier who were responsible for the killing of many Palestinians in Jordan.
#105 Posted by stuka on September 9, 2003 12:59:24 pm
Dost Mittar:
``It would be acceptable to compare the Palestinian suicide bombers to the Tamil tigers, but not to the WTC or any other Umma type suiciders.``
Not all Palestenian suicide bombaers. Al Fatah is secular, Hamas is not. Also, the Fatah people are open to negotiations. What one forgets is that Hamas calls for the destruction of Israel and throwing every Jew in to the sea. What can you negotiate with them?
``It would be acceptable to compare the Palestinian suicide bombers to the Tamil tigers, but not to the WTC or any other Umma type suiciders.``
Not all Palestenian suicide bombaers. Al Fatah is secular, Hamas is not. Also, the Fatah people are open to negotiations. What one forgets is that Hamas calls for the destruction of Israel and throwing every Jew in to the sea. What can you negotiate with them?
#106 Posted by Pakfin on September 9, 2003 1:10:33 pm
#52 by harimau on September 8, 2003 10:02pm PT
``How about the Sindhis in India? Do they have a place they can call home? Can they visit the land of their forefathers?
While you are shedding copious tears for the Palestinians -- whom you had not mett till late in your life -- you seem to have no sympathy for the Sindhis in your backyard in Bombay.
But then the Sindhis were expelled by Islamist thugs so it is all right! Only Muslims have a monopoly on suffering. ``
You tend to forget that Sindh was probably the only province in India and Pakistan where migration was not forced and the Sindhi Hindus who choose to leave did so of their own will. There was almost no rioting against Hindus and the few incidents that did take place were caused by the migrants from India and were quickly quelled.
``How about the Sindhis in India? Do they have a place they can call home? Can they visit the land of their forefathers?
While you are shedding copious tears for the Palestinians -- whom you had not mett till late in your life -- you seem to have no sympathy for the Sindhis in your backyard in Bombay.
But then the Sindhis were expelled by Islamist thugs so it is all right! Only Muslims have a monopoly on suffering. ``
You tend to forget that Sindh was probably the only province in India and Pakistan where migration was not forced and the Sindhi Hindus who choose to leave did so of their own will. There was almost no rioting against Hindus and the few incidents that did take place were caused by the migrants from India and were quickly quelled.
#107 Posted by Pakfin on September 9, 2003 1:16:02 pm
#60 by dost-mittar on September 9, 2003 2:37am PT
dionysus:
``I have yet to meet a hindu or sikh who says that he voluntary left Pakistan because he loved India. They did so because the alternative was death or reading the kalima. The last time I checked, there are millions of Mohajirs who are proud that they went to the new promised land for which they had fought. These Mohajirs are no different from the jews of Europe and the U.S who went to their promised land. Almost all the hindus and sikhs and mainly Panjabi Muslims are like the Palestinians (and the jews from Arab countries) who were kicked out of their homes. ``
I tend to agree with your read of the paralell between the two nations.
dionysus:
``I have yet to meet a hindu or sikh who says that he voluntary left Pakistan because he loved India. They did so because the alternative was death or reading the kalima. The last time I checked, there are millions of Mohajirs who are proud that they went to the new promised land for which they had fought. These Mohajirs are no different from the jews of Europe and the U.S who went to their promised land. Almost all the hindus and sikhs and mainly Panjabi Muslims are like the Palestinians (and the jews from Arab countries) who were kicked out of their homes. ``
I tend to agree with your read of the paralell between the two nations.
#108 Posted by Pakfin on September 9, 2003 1:17:06 pm
#61 by dost-mittar on September 9, 2003 5:54am PT
P.S.
In addition to non-bhangis, I should have also added hindu haris who are also under no pressure to leave or convert as long as they keep supplying their daughters and sisters to their vaderas on demand.
Now this one is uncalled for and is factually incorrect.
P.S.
In addition to non-bhangis, I should have also added hindu haris who are also under no pressure to leave or convert as long as they keep supplying their daughters and sisters to their vaderas on demand.
Now this one is uncalled for and is factually incorrect.
#109 Posted by rsridhar on September 9, 2003 1:20:01 pm
re: #98 by Romair
Let us talk about what is happening today and not what happened in the past.
Indian Tamils do not support LTTE anymore. There may be some stray cases of individual support or some political support by some local parties in Tamil Nadu but by and large there is no sympathy for the LTTE cause. This is especially so after Rajiv Gandhi`s brutal assasination by the LTTE cadre. Tamilians were terribly upset, embarassed and sad at that brutal act since it happened right inside Tamil Nadu where Rajiv Gandhi had come on a compaign trail. I was there at that time and i know how everybody felt.
Palestenian suicide bombers may be latecomers to this idea of suicide bombing but they are not being criticised by the muslim ummah, who eulogise them as martyrs and ``shaheeds``. I saw a TV program in one of the US channels where these people (mostly from Hamas cadre) are treated as martyrs with their photos pasted and splashed all over the city and TV channels give great prominence to their act of terror. such acts have enocouraged more young men to do the same in the name of God. It is a tragic site to see young lives wither away in a merciless way.
This was never the case with Tamils. No Tamil outside of Srilanka has supported or encouraged suicide attacks by Tamil militants. They did receive financial support from Tamils (mostly from Germany, USA) but their financial support has dried up fast after LTTE was branded a terrorist organization by the USA. NObody in India shed any tears when that happened.
Sridhar
Let us talk about what is happening today and not what happened in the past.
Indian Tamils do not support LTTE anymore. There may be some stray cases of individual support or some political support by some local parties in Tamil Nadu but by and large there is no sympathy for the LTTE cause. This is especially so after Rajiv Gandhi`s brutal assasination by the LTTE cadre. Tamilians were terribly upset, embarassed and sad at that brutal act since it happened right inside Tamil Nadu where Rajiv Gandhi had come on a compaign trail. I was there at that time and i know how everybody felt.
Palestenian suicide bombers may be latecomers to this idea of suicide bombing but they are not being criticised by the muslim ummah, who eulogise them as martyrs and ``shaheeds``. I saw a TV program in one of the US channels where these people (mostly from Hamas cadre) are treated as martyrs with their photos pasted and splashed all over the city and TV channels give great prominence to their act of terror. such acts have enocouraged more young men to do the same in the name of God. It is a tragic site to see young lives wither away in a merciless way.
This was never the case with Tamils. No Tamil outside of Srilanka has supported or encouraged suicide attacks by Tamil militants. They did receive financial support from Tamils (mostly from Germany, USA) but their financial support has dried up fast after LTTE was branded a terrorist organization by the USA. NObody in India shed any tears when that happened.
Sridhar
#110 Posted by sigalph235 on September 9, 2003 2:33:28 pm
re 104
Wasn`t his name Mard-e-Momin Mard-e-HAq, Ziaul Haque?
Wasn`t his name Mard-e-Momin Mard-e-HAq, Ziaul Haque?
#111 Posted by asfand on September 9, 2003 3:40:19 pm
A list of UN Resolutions against ``Israel``
The only country that has a long list of resolutions against it and yet it defies them all without a shame.
a.. 1955-1992:
b.. * Resolution 106: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for Gaza raid & Killing civilians``.
c.. * Resolution 111: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people``.
d.. * Resolution 127: `` . . . `recommends` Israel suspends it`s `no-man`s zone` in Jerusalem``.
e.. * Resolution 162: `` . . . `urges` Israel to comply with UN decisions``.
f.. * Resolution 171: `` . . . determines flagrant violations` by Israel in its attack on Syria``.
g.. * Resolution 228: `` . . . `censures` Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control``.
h.. * Resolution 237: `` . . . `urges` Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees``.
i.. * Resolution 248: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan``.
j.. * Resolution 250: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Occupied Jerusalem``.
k.. * Resolution 251: `` . . . `deeply deplores` Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250``.
l.. * Resolution 252: `` . . . `declares invalid` Israel`s acts to unify Jerusalem as Zionst capital``.
m.. * Resolution 256: `` . . . `condemns` Israeli terror attacks on Jordan as `flagrant violation``.
n.. * Resolution 259: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s refusal to accept UN mission to probe illegal occupation``.
o.. * Resolution 262: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for terror attack on Beirut airport``.
p.. * Resolution 265: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for air terror attacks for Salt in Jordan``.
q.. * Resolution 267: `` . . . `censures` Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem``.
r.. *Resolution 270: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for air terror attacks on villages in southern Lebanon``.
s.. * Resolution 271: `` . . . `condemns` Israel`s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem``.
t.. * Resolution 279: `` . . . `demands` withdrawal of Israeli terror forces from Lebanon``.
u.. * Resolution 280: `` . . . `condemns` Israeli`s terror attacks against Lebanon``.
v.. * Resolution 285: `` . . . `demands` immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon``.
w.. * Resolution 298: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s changing of the status of Jerusalem``.
x.. * Resolution 313: `` . . . `demands` that Israel stop terror attacks against Lebanon``.
y.. * Resolution 316: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for repeated terror attacks on Lebanon``.
z.. * Resolution 317: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s refusal to release Arabs kidnapped in Lebanon``.
aa.. * Resolution 332: `` . . . `condemns` Israel`s repeated terror attacks against Lebanon``.
ab.. * Resolution 337: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for violating Lebanon`s sovereignty``.
ac.. * Resolution 347: `` . . . `condemns` Israeli terror attacks on Lebanon``.
ad.. * Resolution 425: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to withdraw its terror forces from Lebanon``.
ae.. * Resolution 427: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
af.. * Resolution 444: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces``.
ag.. * Resolution 446: `` . . . `determines` that Israeli settlements are a `serious
ah.. obstruction` to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention``.
ai.. * Resolution 450: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to stop terrorizing Lebanon``.
aj.. * Resolution 452: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to cease building illegal settlements in occupied territories``.
ak.. * Resolution 465: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s illegal settlements and asks all member
al.. states not to assist Israel`s settlements program``.
am.. * Resolution 467: `` . . . `strongly deplores` Israel`s military intervention in Lebanon``.
an.. * Resolution 468: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
ao.. two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return``.
ap.. * Resolution 469: `` . . . `strongly deplores` Israel`s failure to observe the
aq.. council`s order not to deport palestinians``.
ar.. * Resolution 471: `` . . . `expresses deep concern` at Israel`s failure to abide
as.. by the Fourth Geneva Convention``.
at.. * Resolution 476: `` . . . `reiterates` that Israel`s claim to Jerusalem are `null and void```.
au.. * Resolution 478: `` . . . `censures (Israel) in the strongest terms` for its
av.. claim to Jerusalem in its `Basic Law```.
aw.. * Resolution 484: `` . . . `declares it imperative` that Israel re-admit two deported
ax.. Palestinian mayors``.
ay.. * Resolution 487: `` . . . `strongly condemns` Israel for its terror attack on Iraq`s
az.. nuclear facility``.
ba.. * Resolution 497: `` . . . `decides` that Israel`s annexation of Syria`s Golan
bb.. Heights is `null and void` and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith``.
bc.. * Resolution 498: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon``.
bd.. * Resolution 501: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops``.
be.. * Resolution 509: `` . . . `demands` that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon``.
bf.. * Resolution 515: `` . . . `demands` that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
bg.. allow food supplies to be brought in``.
bh.. * Resolution 517: `` . . . `censures` Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
bi.. and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon``.
bj.. * Resolution 518: `` . . . `demands` that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon``.
bk.. * Resolution 520: `` . . . `condemns` Israel`s terror attack into West Beirut``.
bl.. * Resolution 573: `` . . . `condemns` Israel `vigorously` for bombing Tunisia
bm.. in attack on PLO headquarters.
bn.. * Resolution 587: `` . . . `takes note` of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
bo.. its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw``.
bp.. * Resolution 592: `` . . . `strongly deplores` the killing of
Palestinian students
bq.. at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops``.
br.. * Resolution 605: `` . . . `strongly deplores` Israel`s policies and practices
bs.. denying the human rights of Palestinians.
bt.. * Resolution 607: `` . . . `calls` on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
bu.. requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
bv.. * Resolution 608: `` . . . `deeply regrets` that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians``.
bw.. * Resolution 636: `` . . . `deeply regrets` Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
bx.. * Resolution 641: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s continuing deportation of Palestinians.
by.. * Resolution 672: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for terror violence against Palestinians
bz.. at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
ca.. * Resolution 673: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s refusal to cooperate with the United
cb.. Nations.
cc.. * Resolution 681: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s resumption of the deportation of
cd.. Palestinians.
ce.. * Resolution 694: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s deportation of Palestinians and
cf.. calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
cg.. * Resolution 726: `` . . . `strongly condemns` Israel`s deportation of Palestinians.
ch.. * Resolution 799: ``. . . `strongly condemns` Israel`s deportation of 413 Palestinians
ci.. and calls for there immediate return.
The only country that has a long list of resolutions against it and yet it defies them all without a shame.
a.. 1955-1992:
b.. * Resolution 106: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for Gaza raid & Killing civilians``.
c.. * Resolution 111: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people``.
d.. * Resolution 127: `` . . . `recommends` Israel suspends it`s `no-man`s zone` in Jerusalem``.
e.. * Resolution 162: `` . . . `urges` Israel to comply with UN decisions``.
f.. * Resolution 171: `` . . . determines flagrant violations` by Israel in its attack on Syria``.
g.. * Resolution 228: `` . . . `censures` Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control``.
h.. * Resolution 237: `` . . . `urges` Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees``.
i.. * Resolution 248: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan``.
j.. * Resolution 250: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Occupied Jerusalem``.
k.. * Resolution 251: `` . . . `deeply deplores` Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250``.
l.. * Resolution 252: `` . . . `declares invalid` Israel`s acts to unify Jerusalem as Zionst capital``.
m.. * Resolution 256: `` . . . `condemns` Israeli terror attacks on Jordan as `flagrant violation``.
n.. * Resolution 259: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s refusal to accept UN mission to probe illegal occupation``.
o.. * Resolution 262: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for terror attack on Beirut airport``.
p.. * Resolution 265: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for air terror attacks for Salt in Jordan``.
q.. * Resolution 267: `` . . . `censures` Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem``.
r.. *Resolution 270: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for air terror attacks on villages in southern Lebanon``.
s.. * Resolution 271: `` . . . `condemns` Israel`s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem``.
t.. * Resolution 279: `` . . . `demands` withdrawal of Israeli terror forces from Lebanon``.
u.. * Resolution 280: `` . . . `condemns` Israeli`s terror attacks against Lebanon``.
v.. * Resolution 285: `` . . . `demands` immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon``.
w.. * Resolution 298: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s changing of the status of Jerusalem``.
x.. * Resolution 313: `` . . . `demands` that Israel stop terror attacks against Lebanon``.
y.. * Resolution 316: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for repeated terror attacks on Lebanon``.
z.. * Resolution 317: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s refusal to release Arabs kidnapped in Lebanon``.
aa.. * Resolution 332: `` . . . `condemns` Israel`s repeated terror attacks against Lebanon``.
ab.. * Resolution 337: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for violating Lebanon`s sovereignty``.
ac.. * Resolution 347: `` . . . `condemns` Israeli terror attacks on Lebanon``.
ad.. * Resolution 425: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to withdraw its terror forces from Lebanon``.
ae.. * Resolution 427: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
af.. * Resolution 444: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces``.
ag.. * Resolution 446: `` . . . `determines` that Israeli settlements are a `serious
ah.. obstruction` to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention``.
ai.. * Resolution 450: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to stop terrorizing Lebanon``.
aj.. * Resolution 452: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to cease building illegal settlements in occupied territories``.
ak.. * Resolution 465: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s illegal settlements and asks all member
al.. states not to assist Israel`s settlements program``.
am.. * Resolution 467: `` . . . `strongly deplores` Israel`s military intervention in Lebanon``.
an.. * Resolution 468: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
ao.. two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return``.
ap.. * Resolution 469: `` . . . `strongly deplores` Israel`s failure to observe the
aq.. council`s order not to deport palestinians``.
ar.. * Resolution 471: `` . . . `expresses deep concern` at Israel`s failure to abide
as.. by the Fourth Geneva Convention``.
at.. * Resolution 476: `` . . . `reiterates` that Israel`s claim to Jerusalem are `null and void```.
au.. * Resolution 478: `` . . . `censures (Israel) in the strongest terms` for its
av.. claim to Jerusalem in its `Basic Law```.
aw.. * Resolution 484: `` . . . `declares it imperative` that Israel re-admit two deported
ax.. Palestinian mayors``.
ay.. * Resolution 487: `` . . . `strongly condemns` Israel for its terror attack on Iraq`s
az.. nuclear facility``.
ba.. * Resolution 497: `` . . . `decides` that Israel`s annexation of Syria`s Golan
bb.. Heights is `null and void` and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith``.
bc.. * Resolution 498: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon``.
bd.. * Resolution 501: `` . . . `calls` on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops``.
be.. * Resolution 509: `` . . . `demands` that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon``.
bf.. * Resolution 515: `` . . . `demands` that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
bg.. allow food supplies to be brought in``.
bh.. * Resolution 517: `` . . . `censures` Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
bi.. and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon``.
bj.. * Resolution 518: `` . . . `demands` that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon``.
bk.. * Resolution 520: `` . . . `condemns` Israel`s terror attack into West Beirut``.
bl.. * Resolution 573: `` . . . `condemns` Israel `vigorously` for bombing Tunisia
bm.. in attack on PLO headquarters.
bn.. * Resolution 587: `` . . . `takes note` of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
bo.. its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw``.
bp.. * Resolution 592: `` . . . `strongly deplores` the killing of
Palestinian students
bq.. at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops``.
br.. * Resolution 605: `` . . . `strongly deplores` Israel`s policies and practices
bs.. denying the human rights of Palestinians.
bt.. * Resolution 607: `` . . . `calls` on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
bu.. requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
bv.. * Resolution 608: `` . . . `deeply regrets` that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians``.
bw.. * Resolution 636: `` . . . `deeply regrets` Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
bx.. * Resolution 641: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s continuing deportation of Palestinians.
by.. * Resolution 672: `` . . . `condemns` Israel for terror violence against Palestinians
bz.. at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
ca.. * Resolution 673: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s refusal to cooperate with the United
cb.. Nations.
cc.. * Resolution 681: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s resumption of the deportation of
cd.. Palestinians.
ce.. * Resolution 694: `` . . . `deplores` Israel`s deportation of Palestinians and
cf.. calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
cg.. * Resolution 726: `` . . . `strongly condemns` Israel`s deportation of Palestinians.
ch.. * Resolution 799: ``. . . `strongly condemns` Israel`s deportation of 413 Palestinians
ci.. and calls for there immediate return.
#112 Posted by dost_mittar on September 9, 2003 3:55:38 pm
Pakfin:
``Now this one is uncalled for and is factually incorrect.``
Sorry for that exaggeration of facts!
``Now this one is uncalled for and is factually incorrect.``
Sorry for that exaggeration of facts!
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