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General Musharraf – Caught Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Shahid Mahmood October 2, 2003

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#19 Posted by stuka on October 3, 2003 10:35:21 am
Arjun:

``But under heavy US pressure, PIA`s reservation system is now hosted in Texas through the Sabre Group, and the movement of each and every passenger is carefully monitored, as is the cargo.


There are a bunch of Indians working on the sabre system...they should have a lot of interesting information...after all, sabre isn`t classified. ``

Sabre is the biggest GDS system. I doubt that there would be anything interesting on there now because SABRE is completly open and accessible to anyone with an IATA number. Also, I am very surprised that they use SABRE to monitor cargo. Not too sure about that.
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#18 Posted by arjun_m on October 3, 2003 8:41:04 am
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#17 Posted by jay on October 3, 2003 7:25:16 am
``President Musharraf is also pursuing the prospect of contracts for Pakistani companies once reconstruction in Afghanistan gets under way.``

Spoken like a true shaheed, denying the fact that the taliban was largely pakistanis, killed by the uS and now being killed by mushys troops. Pakistanis are the most hated ones in afghanistan, well contracts, pakistanis do not need that, the jihadis already have their contracts with the god.
What is pathetic is the denial mentality of pakistanis like this author. There is no effort what so ever to understand the real nature of the pak problem. It is all others evil designs, pakistanis being the ones in the land of the pure. There were refugees in india, tibetans, east pakistanis, even tamils from sri-lanka. India was invilved in the mukti bahini, in the LTT, but the entire society did not become a terrorist society. The militants vanished, but not in the case of pakistan. The militants did not change the pak society, the militants resonated with inherent pak values seeking an expression.
To give an exampole, there are so many educated pakistanis on chowk, ranging from romair to tahmed, but no one dares to talk about the pakistanis killed in afghanistan or in kashmir. True to the pak values the killed were jihadis, and such they did not die, they went to heaven. It is this deep felt jihadic belef system that is preventing any progress in pakistan. Even the so called western education that the tahmeds claim to have did not alter their belef that jihadis do not die, they go to heaven and to the extend to talk of the pakistanis killed in jihad is blasphemy.
What is learned in the early syages, in the preschool days, in the mothers lap about the virtues of jihad cannot be changed, and it is this unspoken values that is guiding pak policy. The tragedy of pakistan is the failure of the educated, leave the poor dumb soldier alone.
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#16 Posted by cipram on October 3, 2003 7:25:16 am
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#15 Posted by jay on October 3, 2003 7:25:16 am
Pakistan is a prestigious country. The issue of sending troops to Iraq is not associated with money``, Foreign Minister Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri told BBC Radio. from indian express of today.
I am sorry, now that the minister has announced it, I retract my comments about pakistan.
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#14 Posted by shankar on October 3, 2003 7:25:16 am
{{What does one do? Musharraf, theoretically, could have told George W. Bush, “No. Absolutely not. Pakistan categorically states that it will not help the United States in it’s War against Terror. This is not our war”. A resulting scenario? Pakistan becomes a pariah nation, a cog in the Axis of Evil, shunned by the developed world, suffocated by sanctions.}}

The author hit the nail on the head.
Musharraf has no choice. Pakistan`s situation is so weakened that it has no choice but to NOT offend Big Uncle Sam.

Does Mushy have a choice? He can make peace with India...but on HIS terms...no point talking with such a person.
He made his intentions very clear in the UN. He continues his diatribe about Kashmir. The Pakistani public goes rah rah!; & India gets pissed off at him & the rest of the world doesnt give a cr*p.
Back to square one.

As long as Musharraf is in power; there is no hope for peace with India-whether Congress, BJP or a coalition is in power.
Not to underscore the point; then he publicly boasts how much better Pakistan`s military technology is better than India`s.
haha...win a war first ya` dope...then boast!

Mushy`s nuts are getting in a tighter vice...no ``wiggle`` room.
Serves him right. Thats what happens when a guy thinks he`s too smart & plays both sides. At what point will he realise that America ``likes`` him cos he serves their purpose?
There is nothing more cozy than a Republican administration & a Pakistani military dictator. Its a ``whore-john`` relationship. Everyone from Ayub to Yahya to Zia has been feted in Washington as ``America`s great friend``...& ultimately dumped... Its history repeating itself.

However, some things have fundamentally changed. The cold war is over. The muslim world basically doesnt give two hoots about Kashmir...let alone the rest of the world. India finds itself in a much stronger position. Also, Indian Americans are emulating American Jews...& the pro-India lobby is gathering strenght...that doesnt bode well for Pakistan.

OTOH, Al-Qeeda is gunning for him!
Which hyena will get him first...Uncle Sam?...some jehadi fanatical graduate from Binori madrassah...some fundamentalist Army Officer.....

ofcourse!...all Mushy is obssessed about is that that puny bania hyena should`nt take a bite out of him..

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#13 Posted by cosmic_citizen on October 3, 2003 1:55:36 am
#12
Dear Nazarhayatkhan,
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Mussharaf is not the solution - he is the problem & also a liability
}

QUITE TRUE INDEED

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It would be also advisable if he mouth shut - most of the time.

And let Jamali speak out on national issues
}

Is it that you hate Musharaff`s voice to such an extent that you want Jamali to Dub his Dialogues... Wake up.. smell the coffee.. Jamali never was is or will be anyting more than Musshis pet ### ;-)

Luv,
C C
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#12 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on October 2, 2003 10:29:30 pm

Mussharaf is not the solution - he is the problem & also a liability

It would be also advisable if he mouth shut - most of the time.

And let Jamali speak out on national issues
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#11 Posted by arjun_m on October 2, 2003 2:12:13 pm
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#10 Posted by pmishra2 on October 2, 2003 2:12:13 pm
Basic Formula



(1) Our current military dictator is better than some of the many other nutcases we have in our country.


(2) Whatever the problem is, it is not our fault. It is XXXX`s fault (US, Israel, India,...).


(3) Give us money and terrritory. Otherwise, we may do terrible things.....


What a bunch of losers! You think you can win at anything with this attitude? oh, I am sorry, I forgot that you have no positive goals, only the wish to spoil things for others.
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#9 Posted by taikonaut on October 2, 2003 2:12:13 pm
The real losers are the Pak intellectuals who write such Na-Pak articles. Pakistan fought Communist extremism on one side and VHP fundamentalism on the other. Faiz was drinking Vodka, and Nizami was dancing to the Punjabi drums, while Friday times was printing pro-India theories.

Musharraf is more than happy to work with Americans. Thanks to the sacrifices of young GIs, and Pak soldiers, the whole region is a safer place. The crime rate has gone down and car jackings are relatively low. Millions of girls are in Afghan school instead of being kicked around in the streets. Women`s rights in Talibanic country Oh Yeah!

Mullahs are not a problem. They can be bought and sold for Deg of halwa. The real problem is our half-literate educated elite who refuses to learn from history. They are not willing to work for a bright future for Pak. They are the ones pumping out half baked conspiracy theories a la Bedouin style, and repeating the lies for a bit of satisfaction.
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#8 Posted by kaurasach on October 2, 2003 12:19:40 pm
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#7 Posted by anurag on October 2, 2003 11:50:18 am
I think this symbolizes not just Musharraf`s situation, but of Pakistan as a country.

I have issues with the details outlined (the population thing cracked me up), but that`s not important. What I notice is the absence of any solution whatsoever - in this article or otherwise. Forget vitriol, logical thinking and concrete steps forward is what I totally fail to find.

And when the country as a whole goes nowhere, the Haves consolidate their wealth and power (means being immaterial), and the Have-nots are tempted by sweet smell of jihad even if the enemy needs to be created from nowhere.

India is the last thing in the world pakistan should be worried about. Worry about pakistan, pakistan.
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#6 Posted by cosmic_citizen on October 2, 2003 11:28:10 am
I agree fully with shahid that Musharaff made a wise descision in joining the ranks of US in fighting terrorism. He has bought a temporary solution to Pakistan from isolation.

However Mia Mushraffs commitment to the war against terrorism is half hearted. For that matter even a commitment given by a democratic leader (had there been one in place of Gen sahab) would still be half hearted.

Pakistan over its 50 years of indepence has tread too far along the path of fundamentalism. This is the groud reality which limits the power of even the army general. Its experiments of creating the demon of Taliban have caused mutations in its own society which are too powerful for any ruler to weed out. The growth of Islamic fundamentalism in Pakistan apart from being a sign of imment danger to India and West, is not a good thing for future of Pakistan as a nation. While the world is riding on waves of the digital millenium, the fundamentalists believe in running back in time. The Taliban has proven beyond doubt this argument. In the name of religion and god they aim to setup a society run on fear, opression, suppression, lack of freedom.

While peoples aspire for freedom in every sphere of life, the fundamentalists in the name of religious righteousness supress every means that enables the individual to think and act freely. If persuation doesnt work, they use elimination. Priorities will be on so called religious war, spread of Islam, production of warriors for the jihad and all such absurd things instead of being on issues of science, technology, research, education, elimination of poverty, trade, self sufficiency etc.,

It will need a great amount of will power on behalf of polity and peoples of Pakistan to come out of this trap.

Luv,
Cosmic Citizen
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#5 Posted by mumbaikar on October 2, 2003 11:24:41 am
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#4 Posted by mumbaikar on October 2, 2003 11:24:14 am
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