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Jaipur Dreams

Zia Ahmed October 27, 2003

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#142 Posted by ballukhan on November 3, 2003 1:14:32 am
Who authorizes head hunting in Paki Army???


The second coming of barbarians
Author: A K Ray
Publication: The Pioneer
Date: June 24, 1999

In one of the most brutal acts, the Pakistan Army tortured six Indian
soldiers, including a young Lieutenant, gouged their eyeballs, burnt
them with cigarette butts and chopped off noses, ears and genitals.``
Thus ran the news report on June 11, aptly head-lined, `Barbarians`.
That was the state of Lieutenant Saurav Kalia and five of his men from
4 Jats who had gone on a patrol on May 14 in the Kaksar area.

The same morning appears a piece by a renowned columnist in which he
says, ``Now that the unspeakable dishonesty of the Pakistani
establishment (as opposed to the Pakistani people, let us always
remember) is manifest in Kargil...`` That instantly brought back to
mind the days in Berlin (1955-57) where I read and heard about the
controversy over who were responsible for the horrors of the Holocaust
and other Nazi atrocities during the second World War. To the
question, ``Who did it?`` the infuriating reply from large numbers of
Germans was, ``We didn`t do it; the SS did it.`` Then one day, Gerhard
Reitlinger`s ``SS, the Alibi of a Nation`` tore off the mask of
hypocrisy. Who were the SS, he asked. Were they not fathers,
husbands, brothers and sons of those who pleaded innocence? When Jews
loaded in cattle-wagons were being shipped to Belsen and Auschw4tz
over German railroads, did not the station masters know what was
afoot? And so on.

First, there was the deliberate murder of Squadron Leader Ajay Ahuja,
and now comes the murder of Lieutenant Saurav Kalia and his five men
and the barbaric mutilation of their bodies after evident torture.
Who did these things? Are they not fathers and husbands, and brothers
and sons of the people of Pakistan? These foul deeds cannot be
watered down by ascribing them to the Pakistani ``establishment`` as
opposed to the Pakistani ``people``. These barbaric acts constitute the
collective guilt of the entire Pakistani nation, which every
Pakistani-including the Najam Sethis-must share and pay for. There is
absolutely no ground, no justification, for a schizophrenic
distinction between those who wield power in Pakistan and the rest.

It is not enough to be shocked and out-raged by instances of Pakistani
barbarism, now exposed to the horror of the civilised world. This
barbarism exists and thrives next door. Therefore, one must go beyond
the act to the mind that produced the act.

To he able to do that, it is imperative to shed the suicidal delusion
that Pakistan to-day consists really of the nice friends and
neighbours one had in pre-1946 Lahore. The fact is that it does not.

The reality is that the Pakistanis today are a different breed. Ayub
Khan`s civilised gesture to Field Marshall KM Cariappa in 1965
be-longed to a different age altogether and an entirely different set
of values. Yet, the disease had perhaps begun to spread even
earlier. Conversation with the PoWs of the 1965 war revealed that the
officers and men of the Pakistani armed forces received intensive
indoctrination from mullahs about the superiority and invincibility of
Islam, and the religious merit to be gained by killing kafirs. Tank
crews were taught that if kafirs make things difficult, just recite
such and such ayat, and see them running away from the battlefield!

Perhaps we did not realise then what this revelation meant. It is
doubtful if we do even now. It actually signified the rapid growth of
the influence of the mullah and the increasing reach and clout of the
Jamaat-e-Islami. The Jamaat does not believe in representative
government, and cares not it is not represented in the legislature.

Its sole purpose is to ``Islamise`` the minds of the people, and to get
such ``Islamised`` people into crucial positions in the Government, the
armed forces and civil professions. Its targets are the lower level
Government employees, the rural population, and their children.
Together with a number of similar organisations, they teach that
Islam-the Sunni variety-is predestined to rule over the whole world,
and that it is the duty of every Muslim to contribute to that end;
that the earth be-longs to Allah and therefore only Muslim`s have the
right to live on it and so on.

For the ideologues of these organisations, kafirs are sub-human-the
Untermenschen of the Nazis-not human at all. So what one does with
them and to them does not matter. Throughout their teaching runs the
theme, ``Hate India, hate the Hindus``.

Professor Tahir Mahmood condemns the atrocities committed on our
soldiers by the Pakistani Army as contrary to Islamic law. The
Islamist mullahs of Pakistan may well tell him that on the analogy of
what was done to the Banu Quraiza tribe in early seventh century, what
was done to our fighting men could not fall in the category of the
forbidden in the rive-degree Islamic scale of ethicality. Although it
may not belong to the category of the mandatory it could fall into any
of the other three categories.

The sadistic orgy indulged in by the Pakistani Army is not an isolated
instance of aberration by a few. It is an expression of-the deepest
feelings in the mind brought to the fore by battle conditions. What
was barely under the surface merely floated up with all its ugliness.

It is, therefore, time to square up to the fact that the present
generation of Pakistanis, nurtured and guided by rabidly Islamic
mullahs, share nothing with us-neither the past, nor the present, nor
the future. No amount of pre-emptive capitulation via the so-called
``Gujral Doctrine`` is going to alter their mind-set even a wee bit. It
is, therefore, vitally necessary to abjure the shibboleth of bygone
days that a strong, united Pakistan is good for us.

It is a historical inevitability that Pakistan will go into the
Taliban mode. We must be indubitably forewarned in this regard, and
forearm ourselves accordingly. Mercifully, the kebabs of Lahore do
not attract the vegetarians in the BJP, nor do they tempt the BJP`s
allies as they do the non-vegetarians and pseudo-vegetarians and the
motley crowd of fools and exhibitionists on the side opposed to
them-witness one of them embracing Riaz Khokar on the occasion of a
book release.

Sober reflection, untainted by the starry-eyed naivete of a
media-hyped garrulous few in this city and their gimmicks like the
candle-light vigil at Wagah, will show that the conflict between us
and Pakistan now is not political or territorial but essential
civilisational-one between the Indic and the radical Islamist. The
contradiction is total, and, in Mao`s terminology, ``mutually
annihilatory``. This truth has to be relentlessly drummed into every
Indian mind. We must realise that we are fighting in the preliminary
round of the great coming battle between radical Islam and human
civilisation. None of us can escape the blood, sweat and tears that
this struggle involves.

The age of the barbarians is again upon us. We must stand up, fight
and defeat it decisively. Let the nit-picking brigade of nitwits
scowl and frown, rave and rant. Ignore them.

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#141 Posted by ballukhan on November 3, 2003 12:11:37 am

I found this mullah ISI General`s (president PSGPC) case very interesting.

The Unreported Terrorism Case against Pakistan`s Media King

Special SAT Report

LAHORE: A former Chief of ISI has demanded death penalty under anti-terrorism laws for Pakistan’s virtual media “Ted Turner”, and three other senior journalists, in an Anti-Terrorism Court in Lahore, and the charge against them is carrying out “terrorist acts with their pen”, according to court documents.

In this historic but bizarre case of its kind, the ex-ISI Chief, a Lieutenant General of the Pakistan Army, has submitted a signed petition which in itself is a document revealing some of the most well guarded national secrets, which should never have been revealed, and could get the General hanged for committing sedition if taken up by a fair and judicious court. See other Story.

The most intriguing part of this story is that this Anti Terrorism Court of General Pervez Musharraf not only started hearing the case, it even completed testimony of five prosecution witnesses without even sending a notice to the defendants. Later when the Judge decided that he had jurisdiction to hear the case, he summoned the defendants, who raised immediate objections. He then started hearing their arguments. The latest hearing of the case was held on December 19, with earlier hearings held on Dec 3 and 14, 2002.

The complainant in this case is Lt. General (Retired) Javed Nasir, who headed the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) from March 1992 until May 1993 and the case has been filed against owner of the Jang/News Group of Newspapers and GEO TV, Mir Shakil ur Rehman, Mr. Salim Bokhari Editor of ‘The News’ Lahore, Mr. Usman Yousaf Chairman Editorial Committee ‘Jang’ Lahore and Mr. M.A.K. Lodhi Editor Investigations of ‘The News’ Lahore, who is also a senior employee of the official news agency Associated Press of Pakistan (APP).


The case has been filed under Section 6 (a)(b)(c), 8 & 11 of the Anti Terrorist Act, 1997. Maximum punishment for most of the crimes under this Act is death and Gen. Javed Nasir has demanded in his written petition that the “severest possible punishment” be given to “these terrorists (who) in the garb of journalists have delivered the most lethal blow to the unity and survival of the country.”

“By attacking his reputation the Army and the ISI have been jointly targeted. Left as the last stable institution, if destabilized can lead to an extreme chaos and confusion and eventually to a civil war,” he notes in his petition. Click here to View Petition Page1 | Page2 | Page3 | Page4 | Page5 |Page6 | Page7 | Page8 | Page9 | Page10

The basis for General Nasir’s complaint is a report published by ‘The News’ on August 24, 2002 which alleged that the General, as Chairman of the Evacuee Trust Property Board, embezzled Rs. 3 billion and had fled the country. The report filed by Editor Investigations, M.A.K. Lodhi, claimed the writer had documents to prove its contents. Click to see Original Story (Warning: Large file)

“The complainant learnt about it (the report) through a telephone call which was followed by thousands of telephone calls from all over Pakistan and the world including England and USA,” General Nasir said in his petition.

The General, who is an active member of the Tableeghi Jamaat, an organization of Islamic preachers, said the news item had “terrorized the entire Jamaat, the membership of which runs into millions, and the masses would have led to sectarian strife had it not been for the complainant’s interview on the TV the same night.”

“The entire report manifests a highly arrogant attitude of a few terrorists garbed as journalists indulging in yellow journalism…they are an incurable cancer of the society which must be removed to save the rest of the nation through major surgical operation in the form of the severest possible punishment,” he demanded.

Mir Shakil ur Rehman appeared before the Anti-Terrorism Court-III Judge Manzoor Hussain in Lahore on Dec 19. Editor Salim Bokhari appeared before him in an earlier hearing.

“The entire journalistic community in Pakistan is terrorized, so much so that the newspapers of Mir Shakil ur Rehman himself, the largest circulated Urdu and English language newspapers and GEO TV, a recently launched satellite channel, have not reported anything about this huge case as yet,” journalists in Lahore told the South Asia Tribune.

The original report against the General, carried by ‘The News’ was denied the same day but the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) of General Musharraf confirmed in a letter to the Editor of ‘The News’ on Nov 15, 2002 that “various complaints against Lt. Gen ® Javed Nasir, Ex-Chairman ETPB, are under consideration in NAB.” Click Here for NAB Letter

This confirmed that not everything reported by the newspaper was wrong but what has shocked the journalists is the manner in which the complaint of the ex-ISI chief was filed and accepted by an Anti-Terrorism Court which started one-sided hearings. Journalists argued that it could at best be a case of defamation and be tried under ordinary law in a civil court.

The ATC, instead of throwing out the case, started hearing arguments and decided that it was within its jurisdiction to hear a libel case, thus setting a new legal precedent and turning the so-called Press freedom pronounced so often by General Musharraf, on its head.

In a short judgment given on Dec 3, 2002, the ATC Judge announced that it was within his jurisdiction to hear such a case. “After considering the material placed on record as aforementioned and reading the above provisions of law, I summon all the four persons arrayed as respondents in the complaint for 14.12.2002. A copy of the complaint, as also that of the evidence referred to above, shall be sent to all of them,” Judge Manzoor Hussain said. Click to View Judgment

The anti-terrorism law was passed in August 1997 by the Nawaz Sharif Government. It gave police wide-ranging powers to arrest suspects and established special anti-terrorism courts. Amnesty International at the time pointed out the manifold ways in which the law violated human rights particularly the right to a fair trial. In ... the Supreme Court of Pakistan declared that the Anti-terrorism law as a whole was not unconstitutional but that 12 key sections of the law were unconstitutional and needed to be amended. Several months later this was done by an Amendment Act.

Dozens of people were tried and convicted by these special courts which still fail to provide a fair trial. Most of the death sentences in Pakistan are imposed by anti- terrorist courts. In November 1998, summary military courts were set up to try, within three days, civilians suspected of specified serious offences. Several people were tried and convicted by these special courts; several were sentenced to death and two men were executed before the Supreme Court of Pakistan declared these courts unconstitutional and ordered them disbanded.

General Musharraf enacted the new anti-terrorist law, which replaced the old one of 1997. It came into force on 31 January 2002. The new ordinance provided for new courts which included one senior military officer nominated by the government besides two civilian judicial officers constituting a three-member bench headed by a civilian judge. The courts were to sit in cantonments or jail premises to ensure the security of accused, witnesses and the judiciary. A senior officer said, ``these are not military courts in the true sense, but these courts will comprise civil judges and military officers to speedily dispose of cases of all those involved in terrorism``.

Amnesty International condemning the law said it gave the police a new licence to violate human rights. It authorizes the police and army to fire on anyone ``committing, or believed to be about to commit, a `terrorist` offence``. It also provides them with powers to arrest suspects and to search premises without a warrant. Placing the interpretation on what is justifiable use of lethal force entirely in the hands of law enforcement personnel is, in the Pakistan context, an incitement to the security forces to commit unlawful killings.

Trial by special tribunals including military staff contravenes Principle 5 of the United Nations Basic Principles on the Independence of the Judiciary, endorsed by the General Assembly in 1985. It states: ``Everyone has the right to be tried by ordinary courts or tribunals using established legal procedures. Tribunals that do not use the duly established procedures of the legal process shall not be created to displace the jurisdiction belonging to the ordinary courts of judicial tribunals.``


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#140 Posted by nooralain on November 2, 2003 8:16:21 pm
harimau. . .
what did you not understand about the peanut gallery being closed today? honestly. . .simple english just isn`t accessible by chowkwallahs these days. what to do??? read my words: `leave her alone!` she hasn`t even responded here, and you found reason to ridicule her prior to my post. and now i`m losing my simple english, but that doesn`t wear very well on you.

and i`d like to have dual citizenship if i could, but i don`t need to open the pakistani government website for citizenship rules to know what the response to that is going to be. :) but thank you for the information all the same!

regards.
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#139 Posted by avkrishna on November 2, 2003 7:41:18 pm
``India can never become a developed and civilized nation as long as corruption is so widespread. Today, it is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. ``

Your observation and conclusions are bang on the target.
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#138 Posted by harimau on November 2, 2003 7:41:18 pm
Ref nooralain #137

[zia,
finally, i`ve come to this article, a little late, but what a lovely article, and i have dreams as well. . .i have delhi dreams, and pathankot dreams,and varanasi dreams and mumbai dreams (especially sitting by the sea with farzana, and listen harimau, the peanut gallery is closed today!)]

I just checked Indian Citizenship Rules and found that:

Citizenship of India by registration can be acquired by persons of Indian origin, who or either of whose parents was born in undivided India and who are ordinarily resident in India for five years.

So I guess you and Zia can indeed become citizens of India if you so choose.

The Pak government website for information on citizenship rules was not accessible so your
Mumbai Dreams partner will have to access the site herself later. I also attempted to access AirGorilla.com (honest, I am not making this up) because they claimed they have flights even to Afghanistan but unfortunately they did not recognize Kabul as a city with airport facilities.

Regards.
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#137 Posted by nooralain on November 2, 2003 7:00:18 pm
zia,
finally, i`ve come to this article, a little late, but what a lovely article, and i have dreams as well. . .i have delhi dreams, and pathankot dreams,and varanasi dreams and mumbai dreams (especially sitting by the sea with farzana, and listen harimau, the peanut gallery is closed today!)
and my favorite food to eat these days is made with care by a fellow punjabi from amritsar, who tells his helper when my meal is ready that it is for the punjabi kuRi, and so i have amritsar dreams as well. he makes an excellent saag channa. . .my mouth waters as i write.

our parents (those of us who have parents born prior to the year 1947, mine were born in the thirties) were born in india. i am a pakistani by birth, but i have no reason to erase my parents` india, or my grandparents` india from my heritage. unfortunately too many pakistanis do. as do indians with pakistan. and so i agree with you, the bellicosity must end. thank you for this, again.

regards,
n~

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#136 Posted by avkrishna on November 2, 2003 7:00:17 pm
Jay #

``If I am confindent about the furure of india, it is simply because of this fundamnetal shift in the vlaues. There was a time, I do long for it, when helping the family was supreme, now that has been branded as a crime, nepotism, and that is pathetic. ``

Though the situation had not improved so much, your observation is generally true. Indian corporate system, both public and private, has changed considerably for the better. I guess the last barriers to be completely broken down are Caste and Religion (though surprisingly I find less of Religious barriers than that of Caste).

As usual, the first waves of change are seen in the Private sector companies. Even in some of the ``Old world`` companies like Birlas and others. I think the credit goes both to the unlikely duo of PV-Manhoman singh who set India (or were forced to) on a new liberalized economic path as well as the Indian industrialists who grasped and adjusted to the realities of the new paradigm very quickly.

I still remember the day when Kumaramangalam Birla came to IITs and IIMs promising a new era of Meritocracy. If Birlas can change, then anyone can change


``One is the Tahiwan model where it is a production base used by various essentially western and japanese manufacturers. This is symbolised the absence of any Taiwanese Brand name produts from Taiwan.
Another mpdel is from Korea. Hyundai, Samsung ets are today global brands with production at times from Taiwan. ``

I cannot agree with you more.


Rgds,
avkrishna
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#135 Posted by stuka on November 2, 2003 4:32:22 pm
NHK:

I second the statement that your patience is exemplary in dealing with some of the Indians here. I would like you to keep in mind that Indians have not yet reached the stage of self confidence and empowerment where they can be gracious and (in your words) magnanimous.
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#134 Posted by dost_mittar on November 2, 2003 2:40:41 pm
harimou:
``Yet the Ambanis, the Singhanias, the Modis, the Birlas haven`t come up with a soup-to-nuts manufacturing plant for TVs, camcorders, cellphones, etc., in India. They didn`t lack for government support.``
That`s because of the wrong kind of support given by the govt. The govt. protected them from foreign competition but did not let them import foreign machinery without exhorbitant duties to be able to do so on a competitive basis. I think they were also restricted from entry into many sectors reserved for small or medium firms. However, where the govt.`s protection policies worked in India was the pharmeucitical sector. There, while the local companies were protected from foreign multinationals, they were allowed to compete against each other to become efficient and use the indigenous scientific expertise for reverse engineering. They may have also benefitted from subsidised heavy chemicals produced in the public sector.
Now that controls have been lifted, Tatas have been able to produce their Indica from design to finish and, as you are perhaps aware, the car is to be sold in Europe by the presitgious Land Rover. And even in TVs, I have recently read that India is now the most competitive place for the manufacture of small sized TVs.
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#133 Posted by Fosa on November 2, 2003 12:05:06 pm
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#132 Posted by rsridhar on November 2, 2003 12:05:06 pm
re:#122 by jay
You may be right about your assertions regarding change in people`s attitudes. But i have had first hand experience of corruption in India. I was asked for ``bribe`` by no less a person than the Asst Registrar of a medical college in , hear this, Delhi (the capital of India) for sending me some documents. I needed these documents badly for my state licensure. My father, to this day, could not get the registration number of his car changed for the same reason. Some one told him that his job could never be done without paying off. Delhi is truly the corruption capital of India. I will be very surprised if you tell me that suddenly all this corruption has disappeared. The story of corrupton is same everywhere: North, South, East or West. In this matter, Indians outshine each other.
India can never become a developed and civilized nation as long as corruption is so widespread. Today, it is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
Now, the question is: what makes people so corrupt in India? I believe the answer is : lack of dignity, self-respect and pride in their work. That Asst Registrar would not have demanded money from me if he took pride in his work and had any iota of self-respect. He obviously lacked both.
My greatest criticism of Nehru would be this: by stifling free enterprise, he encouraged corruption. Corruption later on became widespread and got institutionalized.
But, as Americans would say: hindsight is always 20/20. Up until 1960s, Soviet model was touted as a successful economic model. Nehru was obviously impressed with the Soviet model. Today, we know how wrong he was! Still, his democratic and secular credentials can never be questioned. Minorities will probably remember his period of premiership as a Golden Era of communal peace.
Sridhar
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#131 Posted by RationalFaith on November 2, 2003 10:21:17 am
Nazarhayatkhan

Your are a very patient man. The way you respond to provocative statements is exemplary.
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#130 Posted by harimau on November 2, 2003 10:21:16 am
Ref wholly-precious-you #118

[gujjubania #97

...sheesh...get a grip, kid...pakis have better things to do then come on some random website and get their highs off of any ``criticism of india``...what is it they feed you down in gujarat?... ]

Well, how do you then explain the popularity of the Fearless Investigative Journalist from Bombay? (Grin)

As to what they feed him in Gujarat, in between meals it would be Farsan! (Bigger grin)
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#129 Posted by harimau on November 2, 2003 10:21:16 am
Ref nazarhayatkhan #117

[(India`s nukes are indigenous , unlike Pakistan whose nukes and missiles are imported from China and N.Korea)

Knowing something about the issue, let me tell you that it is purely Pakistani technology - devious, stolen - OK. China did not have the centrefuge technology. Similarly, this Korean stuff that keeps coming in the international media is wrong to the best of my knowledge.]

Actually, the first Chinese test of 1964 tested an enriched uranuim weapon and so did several other tests. While in the early days China might have used other processes, the only efficient process is the centrifuge technology to produce large enough quantities for the estimated 450 bombs the Chinese have. Also, China came under US sanctions for selling ring magnets to Pakistan for use in the centrifuges.

China also sold India some quantity of heavy water when India`s heavy water plant at Tuticorin was experiencing production problems and no other country would sell heavy water to India except under IAEC safeguards.

Most of this kind of information is public knowledge and easily available when you search websites devoted to nuclear arms control and non-proliferation.

Last week`s Newsweek reported that the building in Pyongyand (North Korea) where they display the various gifts received by the ruling Kim family has a variety of gifts from visiting dignitaries from Pakistan and Iran in the last two years. Disinformation campaign? Maybe.
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#128 Posted by harimau on November 2, 2003 10:20:56 am
Ref dost-mittar #127

[``This is symbolised the absence of any Taiwanese Brand name produts from Taiwan. ``
Never heard of Acer, perhaps the largest computer maker in the world? But you are right in general. The Taiwanese economy is based on small scale units who have prospered by copying imported technology.]

There are a whole host of others who produce critical parts and whose brands are not visible to the end user but are well-known to the manufacturer/assembler. TSCM (Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing) is one of them. Several US chip design companies in fact use TSCM and another company in Taiwan to fabricate their chips.

[The Korean model, on the other hand, is based on a few chabels, large conglomerates, in cahoots with the dictators who supported them to become the clones of Sonys and Toyotas.]

Yet the Ambanis, the Singhanias, the Modis, the Birlas haven`t come up with a soup-to-nuts manufacturing plant for TVs, camcorders, cellphones, etc., in India. They didn`t lack for government support.
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#127 Posted by dost_mittar on November 2, 2003 7:09:12 am
Jay#122
`` If I am confindent about the furure of india, it is simply because of this fundamnetal shift in the vlaues. There was a time, I do long for it, when helping the family was supreme, now that has been branded as a crime, nepotism, and that is pathetic. ``
I know this is true of a few large software firms (and has perhaps been generally true of Tatas all along!). But I wonder if the change in this attitude is widespread.

``This is symbolised the absence of any Taiwanese Brand name produts from Taiwan. ``
Never heard of Acer, perhaps the largest computer maker in the world? But you are right in general. The Taiwanese economy is based on small scale units who have prospered by copying imported technology. The Korean model, on the other hand, is based on a few chabels, large conglomerates, in cahoots with the dictators who supported them to become the clones of Sonys and Toyotas.
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