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Jaipur Dreams

Zia Ahmed October 27, 2003

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#62 Posted by pmishra2 on October 29, 2003 9:14:09 pm
OK, All right !!! It`s Gujjubania vs irfanhamid !!! Wow ! This is awesome.

Should we call this the battle of the morons? oooops, I am sorry the morons are protesting to the UN that they have been insulted. I tend to agree. Even achieving the level of moron would be an achievement for these boys.

Should we call this the battle of silly, ignorant, unlettered nincompoops? Maybe that works...


Or maybe, we should send these two back to finish their high school education first...
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#61 Posted by irfanhamid on October 29, 2003 8:05:09 pm
Gujjubania #41 and all the others like him I`ve seen here:

Allow me to introduce myself. I am an average 24 year old Pakistani male. Every morning, I wake up and I say to myself ``a new day, another opportunity to spread mayhem in the world. Another opportunity to destroy, rape, and pillage humanity``. Why do I think this way? I don`t know, maybe it`s my religion, the most violent, logic-less, and discriminatory doctrine in the world; Islam. Or no, maybe it`s the state my country is in. Maybe the fact that my country is being led by a dictator is too much for me to take. Maybe I hate the ``freedom`` of the free world, and rather than strive to achieve ``freedom`` in my own country, I just fly into a jealous fit of rage , and, foaming at the mouth and with bloodshot eyes I put on my turban, grab my AK and run off to Kashmir to ``get some``.

Being a Pakistni citizen I can tell you that all of us, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, is itching for a fight. So beware of the barbaric hordes of the north, because you never know when we might descend upon you, on the whole of India in general, but ``gujjubania``, YOU in particular.

Not only do me and my fellow countrymen hate the ``freedom loving`` people of the world, we have the power to harm them. What should be REALLY worrisome for all ``free peoples`` of the world is the fact that we (the raving lunatics, I remind you) have nuclear weapons. Yes, horror of horrors, the Pakis have ``the bomb``. What I and 150 million of my country men dream of each day is that we laungh our entire nuclear arsenal at India, Israel and the US. We don`t have any normal dreams of earning a decent living, maybe seeing the world, or climbing mountains, writing a book, NO. Those are the dreams of ``civilized people``. Does it matter that our missiles won`t be able to hit two thirds of the target countries mentioned? Does it matter that we will have nuclear weapons coming down on us as reprisals? HELL NO. Does it matter to me that I have family living in Pakistan? FAMILY? Wait a second, family is the concept of the ``civilized man``, how can barbarians understand the concept of family, truely laughable.

So, ``civilized nations of the world``, gather around, I urge you. For the sake of humanity, destroy us. Destroy us now while you still have the chance, do something for time is running out. NUKE US, ANNIHILATE US, BOMB US. But DO something and do it quick, because if you don`t, we sure as hell will. Why, I don`t know, maybe it`s because we are barbarians.

Regards,
Irfan Hamid.

PS: Gujjubania, pray to God, or, in your case, gods, that you don`t run into me. Because if I ever do see you, I will tear your head-bobbing civilized vegetarian self limb from limb. Because, like I said, I AM a barbarian.
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#60 Posted by rsridhar on October 29, 2003 4:52:55 pm
re:#41 by gujjubania
It is clear to anyone but the blind that you are a frikking moron. I did not want to post a reply to your posts but i need to clarify a thing or two.
You seem to say that Kashmir is India`s and the Kashmiris be damned. I had supported the Kashmir`s accession to India in the past mainly because i believe that once the violence ends and Kashmiris truly start receiving the benefits of a democratic set up, they would opt to stay with India. This is my firm belief. That is why i had said that terrorism in Kashmir (mostly the cross-border variety) must end before Kashmiris can really get the benefits of democracy.
But make no mistake. That land belongs to kashmiris, just like Tamil Nadu belongs to Tamils or Gujarat to Gujaratis. India is a geo-political entity welded together by common culture (mostly so though there are obvious problems in the North-East), functioning democracy and a strong center. If democracy had failed in Tamil Nadu in 1962, that state would be fighting a secessionist movement today like LTTE is doing in SriLanka. India will work only if everyone irrespective of religion or caste or region has a stake in the Pie.
Now, to your moronic statement:
``The great thing about Hinduism is that There Are No Rules...``
I doubt if you have read any religious book. All religions talk of rules of worship, the dos and don`ts. Hindusim is full of rules. You will be right if you say that some people, fed up of these rules, have tried to go beyond those rules (eg Ramana Maharishi). Hindusim has tolerated such people and not persecuted them.
Sridhar
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#59 Posted by plats8 on October 29, 2003 4:31:31 pm
Gujjubania #52,

You`re also part of a generation of Indians who think that writing three lines of code
is the pinnacle of intellectual achievement. Assuming you are not a caricature created
by someone, you are a pretentious fool of the highest order with a wholesome
serving of obnoxiousness and bigotry - hardly surprising, given that Modi is a role
model for you.

While being a systems analyst for Wipro, please try and develop cognitive skills
appropriate for an adult.
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#58 Posted by plats8 on October 29, 2003 4:31:31 pm
Zia,

It was a great pleasure reading this. Hope you are able to make that trip to Jaipur some
day soon.
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#57 Posted by Faruk on October 29, 2003 4:31:30 pm
Re : Inquirer # 46

“As for Kashmiri Pandits, those who can not defend themselves and are willing to turn tail and run do not deserve the land they live on. They should have organized the armed resistance against their Islamic oppressors. If that is true.”

I don’t agree! It’s the responsibility of the Indian state to protect the life and property of all its citizens. No Indian should have to organize an armed resistance for these basic needs in life.

Regards,

Faruk
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#56 Posted by Ansari on October 29, 2003 3:44:45 pm
Sweet. A pleasure to read, Zia. Thanks.
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#55 Posted by Fosa on October 29, 2003 2:43:24 pm
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#54 Posted by Romair on October 29, 2003 1:39:35 pm
``If my father was an Indian until the sixties, what does that make me?``

It makes you a guy whose father was an Indian until the sixties. After that, in terms of nationalities, your nationality is defined by the passport you carry.

People and money always, naturally, flow towards where they can be safest and can grow the most. So if you move from one place to the next, it is a good sign that you feel safer and/or more productive in the newer place.
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#53 Posted by ziahmed on October 29, 2003 11:41:06 am
#42 - thanks Mamu! Your India trip is just begging to be written about!
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#52 Posted by gujjubania on October 29, 2003 11:10:22 am
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#51 Posted by MantoLives on October 29, 2003 11:00:53 am

P-mishra and other brave Indian and Pakistani friends...

After toiling long and hard on these boards I realize it is best to ignore people like Gujju Bania, Saman Khan, and Abdali ... These people will continue to make such hateful and bigoted comments... these people are without rhyme or reason... if they had their way Pakistan and India would be nuking each other to bits.

Our focus should be on building bridges of peace... between our two nations... and if I recall we had already started to do that :) despite our initial misunderstandings about our stated positions.

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#50 Posted by plats8 on October 29, 2003 10:53:59 am
Gujjubania #various,

Do not wish to interrupt your attempts at presenting yourself in public as a
bigotry-ridden fool, but would you please reconcile these two statements :

1) Post #38 : `` India must thank Jinnah and award him a Bharat Ratna or something
for getting us rid of around 300 million katuas``
2) Post #41 : ``And as I said earlier , I am not anti-muslim``
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#49 Posted by gujjubania on October 29, 2003 10:53:59 am
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#48 Posted by kaurasach on October 29, 2003 10:53:58 am
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#47 Posted by MantoLives on October 29, 2003 10:51:48 am
Kaurasuch,

Would be better if you gave up that lens of emotionalism and looked at the history from a more factual angle... I don`t want to get into a partition debate.. You have the right to your own opinion, no matter how fictional it maybe.


Zia,

I never accused you of peddling any pipedream... your views are reflective of your very secure and self confident Pakistani identity. You are not threatened by peace, trains and ferries :)

Pakistan needs more people like you.

Inquirer,

If indeed that is your attempt... then I apologize. I have always believed that Jinnah`s secular vision is the way out for Pakistan. An emphasis on a `Sindhu` identity is also the key.

Maybe someday your dream and mine ... will come true.

-YLH

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