Acidity - Novellete Part III (final)

Chaos out of chaos. What order? I believe that`s what NFP was trying to convay through Acidity. Ingeniously done, sir.

I think NFP ALREADY has became a pakistani kerouac/ginsberg with ACIDITY ... a wonderful example of electrifying experimental writing but which wasn`t really understood by most chowkies. But those who did get it luved it. Keep it up NFP.

Ah, the ever controversial NFP has finally returned. Read all of Acidity. Loved parts 1 & 2, which I think were most insanely wonderful. I found the final part a bit luckewarm though. However, luved your comeback interview at http://www.bandbaja.org/issues/002/
Good to see you aknowledging chowk for you come-back from your painful solitude and reclusion. Hope to see you more of you here.

Pretentious, pointless, meaningless nonsense and garbage.

riffat:

It is not that this is too high-falutin` for readers of this website. It is just that they recognise pompous pretentiousness when they see it.

#4 by PunjabiZulu on November 4, 2003 6:25am PT

Pretentious, pointless, meaningless nonsense and garbage.


Why PZ, were you expecting it to be in Punjabi?

riffat

Why should I have expected it to be in Punjabi? No, that really would take this ``novellete`s`` pretentiousness, pointlessness, meaninglessness, and pomposity to another level.

Imagine writing such derivative pseudo-artistic supposedly avant-guard rubbish in Punjabi; it would have a certain comedy value, I suppose.

William Burroughs was a sub-standard writer in the first place. A sub-standard imitator of a sub-standard writer is just...well...you work it out.

PZ, since you`re called PunjabyZulu I thought you might`ve liked it in Punjaby ... or better, in Zulu! Oh, well, I DO respect your opinion, eventhough, I think by suggesting William Brroughs to be sub-standard, I wonder what in the world were you doing reading Acidity in the first place?? Okay, tell me if you can, what do you think Acidity was all about (WITHOUT using the many adjectives u have already used)?

Why bother, riffat? The bandbaja write-up on NFP says it all. Throughout his career people have either loved him or hated him. There are no in-betweens. Some thing he`s a genius, while some believe him to be just plain mad! PZ thinks he`s pompus. Well, I too agree he did not get the whole black comedy aspect of the novel, but it`s his opinion.

riffat

~~I wonder what in the world were you doing reading Acidity in the first place??~~

Well, because I was passing time and reading it. How can I answer that question?

William Burroughs didnt write a single thing that will last. He was a junkie who wrote junk.

nvp2003

Who thinks that he is a genius? Trust me, anybody who thinks that this writer is a genius is extremely deluded.

Who thinks that he is a genius? Trust me, anybody who thinks that this writer is a genius is extremely deluded.


Does that mean I`m deluded? Trust me, anybody who thinks that I`m deluded is deluding himself by believing NFP is not a genius and burroughs suck!

trashman

I am open to persuasion. Please show me how this novellette and the work of Nadeem F Paracha constitutes literary genius. A few sentences or paragraphs to explain it will suffice.

Acidity is a very important work... it shouts and screams and cuts at what is thought of as unspeakable.... i`m sure its making
many a reader scratch their head, which is a good sign.... (better than scratching their buts!)


- Kmaal

There u have it, PZ. Well said CoolHand. But PZ, I never wanted to persuade you, man. If you don`t like Acidity, fine. Like I said, some people think NFP is genius, while some think he`s just plain insane. And some like you think he`s a jerk. We all have our opinions, likes and dislikes. You don`t think the post-modern cutup method used by NFP here is great literature, I think it is, especially due to reasons already given by CoolHand. ... btw, PZ, what do you think constitutes good literature. Jane Eyre? I too am open to persuation.

May God have mercy on NFP. I belive he needs help. Instead of thinking of him as genius or mad , what we need to do is try to help him out of this situation. Lets all pray for him.

CoolHandLuke

~~Acidity is a very important work~~

Important to what? Important to whom?

~~ it shouts and screams and cuts at what is thought of as unspeakable~~

What is it cutting at that is so unspeakable?

trashman;

~ And some like you think he`s a jerk~

I do not think he is jerk. That would be sheer insolence to insult somebody personally because I do not rate their writing. All I said was that he is not a genius, that the idea of him being a genius is laughable, and that the ``post-modern cut up method`` is a nonsense dressed as art.

~~ what do you think constitutes good literature. Jane Eyre? I too am open to persuation.~~

I read Jane Eyre when I was in high school. I can hardly remember it. But you mention it as though it is not an example of good writing. Why is that? There are many writers who I think of as good. Would you like me to list a few of them?

One thing I do know is that the ``post modern cut up method`` and the sheep who use it are as derivative and second hand and conservative as the person that writes an 18th century Victorian novel in the present day. It certainly is not progressive, as it pretends to be, saying ``look at me! i am so radical and avant-guard look how post-modern I am!``

It is laziness under the veneer of radicalism. It has been done. It has nothing to say.

All show and no heart.

#14 by vicegerent on November 5, 2003 10:14am PT
May God have mercy on NFP. I belive he needs help. Instead of thinking of him as genius or mad , what we need to do is try to help him out of this situation. Lets all pray for him.


A true NGO (now that`s what you are, right?). Think about your own situation, buddy. According to your member profile u claim to have worked for an American NGO in Kabul. What were you distributing? Levis jeans (for the crippled), Big Macs (for the hungery) and Swiss chocolate (for the bitter)? Thus, why don`t you help ALL of us out, brother vicegerent.

Correction to post No.15

``the person that writes an 18th century Victorian novel in the present day.``

should of course read....``19th century Victorian novel``...

Opinions, all opinions, Zula. And why are you the one asking the questions when you just refused to answer my initial qustion:?Le me repeat it again: Tell me if you can, what do you think Acidity was all about (WITHOUT using the many adjectives u have already used)?

NFP -

I respect you for rising above these brothers here and remaining mute while they bring in the scale and measure your intellect in cups and ounces and pints.

I think you`re a rockstar. This is good stuff. Better than reviewing odd Tulsi songs if nothing else. This stuff is so mindbending that the first time I read it, I was coughing myself into fits. Then it gave me a headache. Later I realized that getting a pounding headache from something like Acidity is far better than getting one from a cheap, short-lived acid substitute e.g. glue. Your work is both saintly and perverse and that, I think is rare.

Cheers.

riffat
It is about the writer`s attempt to utilise a sub-standard writer`s methodolgy to juxtapose random images to impress easily impressed people with pretentious, posturing prose.
These people are easily impressed by derivative writing as long as it is dressed up as ``post modern cut up method``.
In tribute to you i shall now post my review of this Novellette using the post-modern cut up method.

......................................................................................
Zionist nymphomaniacs sh1t on an Arab boys face. Beardo says NikeJihad: Just Do It.
Coca-Cola is the stretch marks of Neo Con slave trade. A Hindu masturbates in the spoon of Pindi. The brahmin p1sses on a shudras face.
We are the Chosen Bees says the Rabbi.
I am the wood pills, i twat in your come, says the Mullah.
...
...
...............................................................................

Please call me a rock star too, SuzieLightning

PunjabiZulu, you are a rockstar.

PZ, you may be a rock star, but you`re certainly NOT a writer. Cap it, already.

#21 by PunjabiZulu on November 5, 2003 3:43pm PT
In tribute to you i shall now post my review of this Novellette using the post-modern cut up method. Zionist nymphomaniacs sh1t on an Arab boys face. Beardo says NikeJihad: Just Do It.
Coca-Cola is the stretch marks of Neo Con slave trade. A Hindu masturbates in the spoon of Pindi. The brahmin p1sses on a shudras face.
We are the Chosen Bees says the Rabbi.
I am the wood pills, i twat in your come, says the Mullah.


That was AWFUL, PZ. No wonder you didn`t like (nor understand) Acidity. A true rock star (read bozo).

See how easily you are impressed, SuzieLightning?

I must be a genius.

riffat

It was a pastiche of the pompous meaningless trash that causes you to squeal praise at the inferior meanderings of a derivative, “post-modern-cut-up-method” writer *grin*, who derives his “methodology” from a writer of miniscule significance to begin with.

The disciple and advocate of such a writer of posturing junk is……*insert word here, using post-modern-cut-up method if you so wish*

CoolHandLuke

See above.

Aw! Rocks stars are cool people!

#25 by PunjabiZulu on November 6, 2003 6:55am PT

See how easily you are impressed, SuzieLightning?
I must be a genius.




Gee, now look who`s getting all deluded!

PZ, you`re such a genius.

NFP -

Killer silence that is.

nvp2003

Here are some examples of delusions, from the gems below...

``I think you`re a rockstar. This is good stuff...Your work is both saintly and perverse and that, I think is rare...some people think NFP is genius...Acidity is a very important work... it shouts and screams and cuts at what is thought of as unspeakable....``

SuzieLightning

Maybe he is busy cutting some things up...

Lost cause, SuzieLightening. The man hardly replys. The only time he did something to this extent was on Acidity Pt:II. Anyway, why need NFP, when we have geniuses/rock stars like PunjabyZidee, I mean, PujabyZulu?

Dear NFP,
Acidity is a very important work... it shouts and screams and cuts at what is thought of as unspeakable.... i`m sure its
making many a reader scratch their head, which is a good sign.... (better than scratching their arses)... it could be that
its a bit too advanced for the Duh Generation... the wannabes will jump on the bandwagon because they wannabe
cool like NFP... others will close up even tighter after reading it...
I totally agree with SuzieLightning`s first reply.

Brothers -

Being the headstrong ignorant that I am, I didn`t care much about the `method` NFP employed. I liked this piece beccause it was completely nerves, no flesh and bone. It cut as it caressed. It was a gorgeous, gorgeous mess of words. One of those things which are three standard deviations beyond the mean. But I`m just repeating myself...

Maybe I am stupid, stupid, stupid and ``delusional`` to think how think. But I certainly wouldn`t want others to analyze that. Apparently, we`ve got here a bunch of smart alecks who argue too well.

PunjabiZulu and whoever else differs, is free to do so just as I am free to like this. At the risk of sounding redundant, allow me to remind you that this debate and our less-than-savory rhetorical behaviors are pretty pointless. No use in making futile attempts to beat one another up in these silly games of mental volley. In the end we`re all going to go home with the same brains that we came with.

Be bop a lu la...

ps. NFP, you`re still a rock star.

This kind of genius only gets recognized once the writer/painter/bootlegger has kicked the bucket.

later
-sac

P.S: The profile claims that the gentleman was imprisoned twice by Zia. Question is who let him out?

#35 by sac on
P.S: The profile claims that the gentleman was imprisoned twice by Zia. Question is who let him out?


Perhaps the same person who sacked you in?

Thank you, Suzie. :)




- NFP

Sac

If your`s a serious question, then I believe he was arrested in 1986 and released in mid 1988 after Zia died in a plane crash. He was I think also tortured by the pakistani intelligence and arrested for spreading ``Communist propaganda.`` The first time he was arrested for arson. I was told this by a college friend of his. As for you suggesting that this sort of genius is only recognised after death, well some of us here would differ. I think he`s a genius and quite alive.

ALAS! THE MAN FINALLY SPEAKS! Congrats SuzieLightening. Now I wonder what us mortals got to do to get a response from THE MAN.

NFP is a highly origenal writer. Maybe his true potential will be hailed after his death but there is no denying the fact that there are many who are convinced about his crackling talents. Like I said before, to some he may come across as a genius. To others he will be no more than a druged out mad man. But never is he average, ordinery or midiocre.

SuzieLightening

You are not stupid at all. Your first post was by far the finest analyses on Acidity here.

Sac

I quite agree with you. But by saying that this sort of genius is only aprreciated after death may also mean you do recognize NFP`s potential for genius. I do. And it`s nice to notice there others who do so too.

You`re welcome, NFP.

The monstrosity that is (typical of) NFP should go unnoticed. !!!
I for one, fear the day when pakistan will wake up from its hypocritic slumber and look itself in the mirror. Lets just think of the cake while we dont have bread. Lets just continue with the fable of the bomb and the escapism of dil dil pakistan. Let not the delusion slide, for when the heroinchee speaks of his delusions he forgets that he himself is one.

That was quite an ending NFP. This novellete is certainly out of this world...


Ras

murlizee

Excellent little review. But the debate remains: Is NFP inspired by genius or just plane madness?

#45 by trashman on November 8, 2003 6:54am PT
Is NFP inspired by genius or just plane madness?




I think both. Harly any difference, really.

I agree with u CoolHandLuke. But I sure wish NFP himself would like to shed some light on the question. NFP, you listening?

*GONE FISHING*


-nfp

#48 by baaghiraja on November 10, 2003 9:06am PT


*GONE FISHING*


-nfp



Hehe!

#48 by baaghiraja on November 10, 2003 9:06am PT


*GONE FISHING*


-nfp



LOL!! My verdict: A true genius!!

nice

a very innovative measure to describe the worl today.

each personality all around is having his butt pulled in it
very well done NFP

Ok gosh finally read this...NFP don`t know if you reading this now but this was like scary ride across madness which we call reality...I wouldve also liked to read the piece you wrote before you performed cutup method.