Taslima’s Lies, Ismat’s Truth
Farzana Versey November 21, 2003
#169 Posted by harimau on December 14, 2003 7:59:25 am
Ref Maasanamuthu #168
[Incestuating may not be a word...]
It is NOT a word. There is no `maybe` about it.
[... but that pretty much describes someone who has trouble recognizing the difference between fantasy and reality, leave alone his blood relatives from potential mating partners.]
I am the one who sees the REALITY everyday of yet another DMK leader, nursed in the bosom of The Great Intellectual and Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion falling down at the feet of Jayalalitha, a brahmin all of whom you were taught to kill.
My mating partners at least happen to belong to my species. I understand the local SPCA has received some complaints about your attempting to molest your daughter`s pet goat.
[Marrying your own nieces is not what they meant when they said push the envelope..]
I understand YOUR meaning of that term: you would be asking anyone requesting services that you are paid to provide to push that envelope stuffed with currency notes toward you.
[There`s a benign explanation for why you were denied admission. It was not caste or quota system. You are dumb as dirt.]
Your Dravidian Logic comes into play here. Of course not providing a false caste certificate is dumb in today`s Tamil Nadu. Getting a top rank in your University exams is dumb when you could have paid off the clerk who prepares the mark sheet. Getting admission to a major private university in the US with an assistantship and being the FIRST Indian in that particular department would be dumb because you could always get your degree from Perarignar Anna University of Technology and then get your daddy to send you to Podunk U in the US.
[What you write most of the time reads like a bunch of monkeys did indeed get possession of your computer. Your coherency is such that a second-grader learning to write sentences can do better than you on her bad day..]
A bunch of monkeys would write better Tamil songs than ``Ottakattha Kattikko``. How about translating that for the Chowk readership?
[Don`t blame your stupidity on anyone else. If you must blame, blame it on the inbreeding in your family. You do exhibit the classic symptoms of a manic depressive, which in many cases is due to unfortunate events within a family.]
The in-breeding as you call it has kept out idiots like you from polluting the gene pool. There is something to be said for 3000 years of concentrated intellectual activity.
By the way, I do see matrimonial advertisements like ``Chettiar boy, 28 years old earning Rs. 3500 p.m. wants girl under 26. Brahmins preferred`` in most of the Tamil magazines such as ``Mangai``. Can you show me ONE advertisement that says ``Brahmin boy wants a Chettiar/Reddiar/Mudaliar bride``? Looks like the only ones who want to improve their gene pools are your folks!
[Getting back to the subject, where is the evidence that I am a hypocrite? Don`t evade the question and resort to silly assumptions.]
There are NO assumptions. Unless you come out and claim you are a brahmin you have no way of demonstrating that you got in on merit. Of course you have already made the claim that you may not be a Tamilian. So one more denial of your origins shouldn`t be too hard.
[It`s pathetic that an older man like yourself has to be skewered in public like this crying for help from others, but you left me with no choice. As they say, put up or shutup.]
It should be obvious that I am NOT the one crying. The fact you have run away from the board ``Should Pakistan Too Dump the Commonwealth?`` after your attempt at licking the Pakistani butt proves who is pathetic in his attempts to win approval from somebody.
Tell you what: kill a Dalit and your daddy would approve.
[Incestuating may not be a word...]
It is NOT a word. There is no `maybe` about it.
[... but that pretty much describes someone who has trouble recognizing the difference between fantasy and reality, leave alone his blood relatives from potential mating partners.]
I am the one who sees the REALITY everyday of yet another DMK leader, nursed in the bosom of The Great Intellectual and Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion falling down at the feet of Jayalalitha, a brahmin all of whom you were taught to kill.
My mating partners at least happen to belong to my species. I understand the local SPCA has received some complaints about your attempting to molest your daughter`s pet goat.
[Marrying your own nieces is not what they meant when they said push the envelope..]
I understand YOUR meaning of that term: you would be asking anyone requesting services that you are paid to provide to push that envelope stuffed with currency notes toward you.
[There`s a benign explanation for why you were denied admission. It was not caste or quota system. You are dumb as dirt.]
Your Dravidian Logic comes into play here. Of course not providing a false caste certificate is dumb in today`s Tamil Nadu. Getting a top rank in your University exams is dumb when you could have paid off the clerk who prepares the mark sheet. Getting admission to a major private university in the US with an assistantship and being the FIRST Indian in that particular department would be dumb because you could always get your degree from Perarignar Anna University of Technology and then get your daddy to send you to Podunk U in the US.
[What you write most of the time reads like a bunch of monkeys did indeed get possession of your computer. Your coherency is such that a second-grader learning to write sentences can do better than you on her bad day..]
A bunch of monkeys would write better Tamil songs than ``Ottakattha Kattikko``. How about translating that for the Chowk readership?
[Don`t blame your stupidity on anyone else. If you must blame, blame it on the inbreeding in your family. You do exhibit the classic symptoms of a manic depressive, which in many cases is due to unfortunate events within a family.]
The in-breeding as you call it has kept out idiots like you from polluting the gene pool. There is something to be said for 3000 years of concentrated intellectual activity.
By the way, I do see matrimonial advertisements like ``Chettiar boy, 28 years old earning Rs. 3500 p.m. wants girl under 26. Brahmins preferred`` in most of the Tamil magazines such as ``Mangai``. Can you show me ONE advertisement that says ``Brahmin boy wants a Chettiar/Reddiar/Mudaliar bride``? Looks like the only ones who want to improve their gene pools are your folks!
[Getting back to the subject, where is the evidence that I am a hypocrite? Don`t evade the question and resort to silly assumptions.]
There are NO assumptions. Unless you come out and claim you are a brahmin you have no way of demonstrating that you got in on merit. Of course you have already made the claim that you may not be a Tamilian. So one more denial of your origins shouldn`t be too hard.
[It`s pathetic that an older man like yourself has to be skewered in public like this crying for help from others, but you left me with no choice. As they say, put up or shutup.]
It should be obvious that I am NOT the one crying. The fact you have run away from the board ``Should Pakistan Too Dump the Commonwealth?`` after your attempt at licking the Pakistani butt proves who is pathetic in his attempts to win approval from somebody.
Tell you what: kill a Dalit and your daddy would approve.
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#168 Posted by soysauce on December 10, 2003 2:08:57 pm
#167
Incestuating may not be a word but that pretty much describes someone who has trouble recognizing the difference between fantasy and reality, leave alone his blood relatives from potential mating partners. Don`t do it because any children born would be more retarded than you. Cringe.. Marrying your own nieces is not what they meant when they said push the envelope..
There`s a benign explanation for why you were denied admission. It was not caste or quota system. You are dumb as dirt. What you write most of the time reads like a bunch of monkeys did indeed get possession of your computer. Your coherency is such that a second-grader learning to write sentences can do better than you on her bad day..
Don`t blame your stupidity on anyone else. If you must blame, blame it on the inbreeding in your family. You do exhibit the classic symptoms of a manic depressive, which in many cases is due to unfortunate events within a family.
Getting back to the subject, where is the evidence that I am a hypocrite? Don`t evade the question and resort to silly assumptions.
It`s pathetic that an older man like yourself has to be skewered in public like this crying for help from others, but you left me with no choice. As they say, put up or shutup.
Incestuating may not be a word but that pretty much describes someone who has trouble recognizing the difference between fantasy and reality, leave alone his blood relatives from potential mating partners. Don`t do it because any children born would be more retarded than you. Cringe.. Marrying your own nieces is not what they meant when they said push the envelope..
There`s a benign explanation for why you were denied admission. It was not caste or quota system. You are dumb as dirt. What you write most of the time reads like a bunch of monkeys did indeed get possession of your computer. Your coherency is such that a second-grader learning to write sentences can do better than you on her bad day..
Don`t blame your stupidity on anyone else. If you must blame, blame it on the inbreeding in your family. You do exhibit the classic symptoms of a manic depressive, which in many cases is due to unfortunate events within a family.
Getting back to the subject, where is the evidence that I am a hypocrite? Don`t evade the question and resort to silly assumptions.
It`s pathetic that an older man like yourself has to be skewered in public like this crying for help from others, but you left me with no choice. As they say, put up or shutup.
#167 Posted by harimau on December 10, 2003 12:14:29 pm
Ref Modern-Day-Nazi #166
``Incestuating`` is NOT a word. So much for your attempts at using two-penny words. Sick to words of one syllable, you moron.
Goebbelism is at its highest when you say I hate people different from me but have only words of admiration for people who make statements like ``If you see a brahmin and a snake, kill the brahmin first``.
You ARE the hypocrite for stealing a professional education and a scholarship meant for some Dalit.
As to your pretensions to social justice, I know exactly what your kind practices in Tamil Nadu. It is: if you see a Dalit and a snake, kill the Dalit first.
Of course you don`t have the guts to touch a brahmin except to fall down at her feet as is happening daily in Chennai.
``Incestuating`` is NOT a word. So much for your attempts at using two-penny words. Sick to words of one syllable, you moron.
Goebbelism is at its highest when you say I hate people different from me but have only words of admiration for people who make statements like ``If you see a brahmin and a snake, kill the brahmin first``.
You ARE the hypocrite for stealing a professional education and a scholarship meant for some Dalit.
As to your pretensions to social justice, I know exactly what your kind practices in Tamil Nadu. It is: if you see a Dalit and a snake, kill the Dalit first.
Of course you don`t have the guts to touch a brahmin except to fall down at her feet as is happening daily in Chennai.
#166 Posted by soysauce on December 10, 2003 10:52:24 am
#165
Everyone? We?
How many voices do you hear exactly?
Prozac would be a good start.
Why the need to drag others into this argument? Feeling a little overwhelmed? Need company to commisserate with you? Help you out of your corner?
Where is the evidence I am a hypocrite, you lying, hating, incestuating, two-bit nincompoop?
How do you know I did or did not criticise something that happened eons ago? What does that have to do with you claiming here that muslims deserved to be killed? Just listen to yourself - you keep repeating the same trash that has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with some weird made-up reason for why you hate people who are different from you. What does the price of tea in china or Bhoj university or anything have to do with you being an incoherent, bigotted piece of low-life?
Where is the evidence that I am a hypocrite? Don`t change the subject now. If you do not answer that question, you will be flamed like you never have been in your life before. You ain`t seen nuttin yet..
Everyone? We?
How many voices do you hear exactly?
Prozac would be a good start.
Why the need to drag others into this argument? Feeling a little overwhelmed? Need company to commisserate with you? Help you out of your corner?
Where is the evidence I am a hypocrite, you lying, hating, incestuating, two-bit nincompoop?
How do you know I did or did not criticise something that happened eons ago? What does that have to do with you claiming here that muslims deserved to be killed? Just listen to yourself - you keep repeating the same trash that has nothing to do with me, and everything to do with some weird made-up reason for why you hate people who are different from you. What does the price of tea in china or Bhoj university or anything have to do with you being an incoherent, bigotted piece of low-life?
Where is the evidence that I am a hypocrite? Don`t change the subject now. If you do not answer that question, you will be flamed like you never have been in your life before. You ain`t seen nuttin yet..
#165 Posted by harimau on December 10, 2003 7:18:24 am
Ref Modern-Day-Nazi #164
[Wow, really! YOU gave me time to respond to someone else?
I should be grateful I suppose.]
No. You should frikkin` respond to AnOrdinaryHindu.
[But all in good time.]
Yes. When Hell freezes over, I am sure.
[Don`t wriggle out of OUR argument now, right after telling me that I should have replied to another guy.]
You are the wriggling worm. Everybody sees your contortions in avoiding replying to AnOrdinaryHindu.
[So why is it that you think killing muslims in Gujarat was OK because someone rioted in TN after MGR`s death? What rube goldbergian logic is that?]
Despite your use of some fancy English -- picked up from reading some trashy magazines obviously -- it is obvious that you don`t understand what I write. Maybe I should try writing in Tamil for you. I asked where was YOUR condemnation of things similar to rioting and looting in Tamil Nadu whereas you are so generous with your criticism of the Gujarat riots.
[Why are you obsessed with the perversions of dead men when here you are (half dead as per your own logic) admitting to incestual perversions?]
The only incestual perversions I have seen all over Tamil Nadu are people of your ilk marrying their first cousins to keep their property in the family.
[Why is it that you, who is addicted to tamil filmi music, imagine everyone is like you and would want to know, smell and experience the same trash?]
It should be obvious to the most infantile minds that those with an appreciation for finer things in life such as classical music have no regard for base things such as film music. But that doesn`t mean that my ears aren`t assaulted by what you call `trash` (you just lost all your Chettiar friends for calling Kannadasan a trashy songwriter!) as I walk down the street in any town in Tamil Nadu or that this trash isn`t squarely aimed at people with your background and tastes.
[Where is the evidence that I`m a hypocrite? Remember, what the voices in your head tell you doesn`t count and your stupid assumptions about me don`t either. These were established in another thread. I gave you several pointers to logical argument there.
Start over and don`t be so ``generous`` the next time. Fight your own battles. Don`t expect someone else to come and rescue you. That ain`t happening. Get to work.]
Keep ranting. Your wife would be calling the loony police soon.
[Wow, really! YOU gave me time to respond to someone else?
I should be grateful I suppose.]
No. You should frikkin` respond to AnOrdinaryHindu.
[But all in good time.]
Yes. When Hell freezes over, I am sure.
[Don`t wriggle out of OUR argument now, right after telling me that I should have replied to another guy.]
You are the wriggling worm. Everybody sees your contortions in avoiding replying to AnOrdinaryHindu.
[So why is it that you think killing muslims in Gujarat was OK because someone rioted in TN after MGR`s death? What rube goldbergian logic is that?]
Despite your use of some fancy English -- picked up from reading some trashy magazines obviously -- it is obvious that you don`t understand what I write. Maybe I should try writing in Tamil for you. I asked where was YOUR condemnation of things similar to rioting and looting in Tamil Nadu whereas you are so generous with your criticism of the Gujarat riots.
[Why are you obsessed with the perversions of dead men when here you are (half dead as per your own logic) admitting to incestual perversions?]
The only incestual perversions I have seen all over Tamil Nadu are people of your ilk marrying their first cousins to keep their property in the family.
[Why is it that you, who is addicted to tamil filmi music, imagine everyone is like you and would want to know, smell and experience the same trash?]
It should be obvious to the most infantile minds that those with an appreciation for finer things in life such as classical music have no regard for base things such as film music. But that doesn`t mean that my ears aren`t assaulted by what you call `trash` (you just lost all your Chettiar friends for calling Kannadasan a trashy songwriter!) as I walk down the street in any town in Tamil Nadu or that this trash isn`t squarely aimed at people with your background and tastes.
[Where is the evidence that I`m a hypocrite? Remember, what the voices in your head tell you doesn`t count and your stupid assumptions about me don`t either. These were established in another thread. I gave you several pointers to logical argument there.
Start over and don`t be so ``generous`` the next time. Fight your own battles. Don`t expect someone else to come and rescue you. That ain`t happening. Get to work.]
Keep ranting. Your wife would be calling the loony police soon.
#164 Posted by soysauce on December 9, 2003 8:07:30 pm
#163
Wow, really! YOU gave me time to respond to someone else?
I should be grateful I suppose.
But all in good time.
Don`t wriggle out of OUR argument now, right after telling me that I should have replied to another guy.
So why is it that you think killing muslims in Gujarat was OK because someone rioted in TN after MGR`s death? What rube goldbergian logic is that?
Why are you obsessed with the perversions of dead men when here you are (half dead as per your own logic) admitting to incestual perversions?
Why is it that you, who is addicted to tamil filmi music, imagine everyone is like you and would want to know, smell and experience the same trash?
Where is the evidence that I`m a hypocrite? Remember, what the voices in your head tell you doesn`t count and your stupid assumptions about me don`t either. These were established in another thread. I gave you several pointers to logical argument there.
Start over and don`t be so ``generous`` the next time. Fight your own battles. Don`t expect someone else to come and rescue you. That ain`t happening. Get to work.
Wow, really! YOU gave me time to respond to someone else?
I should be grateful I suppose.
But all in good time.
Don`t wriggle out of OUR argument now, right after telling me that I should have replied to another guy.
So why is it that you think killing muslims in Gujarat was OK because someone rioted in TN after MGR`s death? What rube goldbergian logic is that?
Why are you obsessed with the perversions of dead men when here you are (half dead as per your own logic) admitting to incestual perversions?
Why is it that you, who is addicted to tamil filmi music, imagine everyone is like you and would want to know, smell and experience the same trash?
Where is the evidence that I`m a hypocrite? Remember, what the voices in your head tell you doesn`t count and your stupid assumptions about me don`t either. These were established in another thread. I gave you several pointers to logical argument there.
Start over and don`t be so ``generous`` the next time. Fight your own battles. Don`t expect someone else to come and rescue you. That ain`t happening. Get to work.
#163 Posted by harimau on December 9, 2003 7:42:44 am
Ref Dravidian Logician #161
[Just kidding. I ain`t goin` anywhere until either you stop ranting or check yourself into a mental ward.. ]
I gave you four full days to respond to AnOrdinaryHindu. Everybody on Chowk knows now that you are a gutless wonder.
[Just kidding. I ain`t goin` anywhere until either you stop ranting or check yourself into a mental ward.. ]
I gave you four full days to respond to AnOrdinaryHindu. Everybody on Chowk knows now that you are a gutless wonder.
#162 Posted by kyla on December 8, 2003 3:16:16 pm
Beautifully written! And really astute. South Asian literature is going the way of Rushdie a lot of the time, and in a bad way, because Rushdie can write, has a point. I like the fire in your writing, and the honesty. Thank you.
#161 Posted by soysauce on December 4, 2003 7:35:25 pm
#160
You`re the expert on incestuous relationships...
#159
Conficius say if you come across a lunatic and a snake, run!
Just kidding. I ain`t goin` anywhere until either you stop ranting or check yourself into a mental ward..
You`re the expert on incestuous relationships...
#159
Conficius say if you come across a lunatic and a snake, run!
Just kidding. I ain`t goin` anywhere until either you stop ranting or check yourself into a mental ward..
#160 Posted by ballukhan on December 4, 2003 8:44:17 am
#148 by nasah on December 2, 2003 7:17am PT
Thanks nasah saheb! We will need you guidance again.
Thanks nasah saheb! We will need you guidance again.
#159 Posted by harimau on December 4, 2003 8:44:17 am
Ref karuvattu-kuzhambu-trying-to-look-sophisticated #156
[#155 Unkalji, let`s not worry about people who are long dead & gone.]
I even went to the website periyar.org. There are quotes from Periyar on various subjects. But I couldn`t find the one about Tamil being a barbarian language and Tamilians being barbarians. Nor is that quote ``If you see a brahmin and a snake, kill the brahmin first`` anywhere to be found. Even better, his pronouncements on women do not seem to have his fulminations about rich old men marrying young girls.
The whitewashing of Periyar has already begun just like brainwashing idiots like you began 70 years back. All this sanitizing of Periyar`s record reminds me of Stalinist revisionism of Soviet history. No wonder Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion named his son Stalin!
Do you plan to name your son Adolf? Or would you prefer David Duke?
[Let`s worry about your perversions...]
Mine is listening to classical music. Yours is listening to ``Ottakattha kattikko``. So, when ARE you going to post the translation of that song on Chowk?
PS. I guess the true history of the Rationalist Movement is jolting you out of your cherished beliefs. Keep grasping at straws.
[#155 Unkalji, let`s not worry about people who are long dead & gone.]
I even went to the website periyar.org. There are quotes from Periyar on various subjects. But I couldn`t find the one about Tamil being a barbarian language and Tamilians being barbarians. Nor is that quote ``If you see a brahmin and a snake, kill the brahmin first`` anywhere to be found. Even better, his pronouncements on women do not seem to have his fulminations about rich old men marrying young girls.
The whitewashing of Periyar has already begun just like brainwashing idiots like you began 70 years back. All this sanitizing of Periyar`s record reminds me of Stalinist revisionism of Soviet history. No wonder Doctor Artist Leader the Fund of Compassion named his son Stalin!
Do you plan to name your son Adolf? Or would you prefer David Duke?
[Let`s worry about your perversions...]
Mine is listening to classical music. Yours is listening to ``Ottakattha kattikko``. So, when ARE you going to post the translation of that song on Chowk?
PS. I guess the true history of the Rationalist Movement is jolting you out of your cherished beliefs. Keep grasping at straws.
#158 Posted by harimau on December 4, 2003 8:44:17 am
Ref AnOrdinaryHindu #154
[Soysuce ji]
As you can see from Reply #157, this cretin doesn`t need to be addressed with a respectful `ji`. The standard salutation among his people of his ilk is `Thayoli`.
Two years of posturing on Chowk is coming to naught for this idiot and Chowkies are finally able to see through his absolutely horrid belief system despite his professions of love for the minorities.
[Soysuce ji]
As you can see from Reply #157, this cretin doesn`t need to be addressed with a respectful `ji`. The standard salutation among his people of his ilk is `Thayoli`.
Two years of posturing on Chowk is coming to naught for this idiot and Chowkies are finally able to see through his absolutely horrid belief system despite his professions of love for the minorities.
#157 Posted by soysauce on December 3, 2003 7:42:00 pm
#155 Unkalji, let`s not worry about people who are long dead & gone. Let`s worry about your perversions...
#156 Posted by soysauce on December 3, 2003 7:42:00 pm
#154
I`ll deal with one idiot at a time. Take a token and wait in line.
I`ll deal with one idiot at a time. Take a token and wait in line.
#155 Posted by harimau on December 3, 2003 6:03:25 pm
Ref d`Inde #151
[Uncle harimau, is it true that you`re a bachelor because your nieces haven`t come of age yet?]
That would still be better than what your Father Big Man (Thanthai Periyar) did: after preaching for a lifetime about the evils of rich old men marrying young women, marrying a woman 40 years younger!
I suppose that is one of your goals in life.
[Uncle harimau, is it true that you`re a bachelor because your nieces haven`t come of age yet?]
That would still be better than what your Father Big Man (Thanthai Periyar) did: after preaching for a lifetime about the evils of rich old men marrying young women, marrying a woman 40 years younger!
I suppose that is one of your goals in life.
#154 Posted by AnOrdinaryHindu on December 3, 2003 6:03:23 pm
re: soysauce # 153
``And you have the gall to stereotype, caricature and condemn wholesale, people of other communities and religions. What a piece of Scheiße you are!``
Soysuce ji,
Given the blatant religious bigotry you have displayed, you shouldn`t be speaking for people who prefer not to ``stereotype, caricature and condemn wholesale, people of other communities and religions.``
Not stereotyping and caricaturing communities is a noble idea. Leave it for others who genuinely believe in it.
``And you have the gall to stereotype, caricature and condemn wholesale, people of other communities and religions. What a piece of Scheiße you are!``
Soysuce ji,
Given the blatant religious bigotry you have displayed, you shouldn`t be speaking for people who prefer not to ``stereotype, caricature and condemn wholesale, people of other communities and religions.``
Not stereotyping and caricaturing communities is a noble idea. Leave it for others who genuinely believe in it.
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