Iraqi Resistance Warns Turks to Keep Off Iraq

re: fosa # 14

Learn to write in a manner more intelligent than the one you display presently; replies that are nothing more hollow self styled rants of lipid pseudo intellectualism and till then, take long walk off a short pier and attach some heavy objects to your ankles and try not to come up for air.

As to the word ``nincompoopers``, which you used to describe me, I guess it takes one to know the other!

re: vertex # 15

It makes as much sense as your hypothesis.

The premise is that you collect all the facts and then deduce the most likely reason for an event and the answer you are left with, no matter how illogical it seems, is probably going to be truth. The only problem is that there is a solid, unavoidable need for facts to prove or disprove a given set of hypothesis. Your hypothesis may be valid one, but it cannot be proven till there is an evidence of facts stating your claim to be as the truth. Till that happens, an unproven hypothesis will remain, politically speaking, nothing more than a conspiracy theory.

Ciao

vertex: you ignore the reality of what you know, and conjure up conspiracy theories for which you have no basis. there is a word for an individual who demonstrates such an attitude. can you help me find that word?

could it perhaps be ``moron``? it cant be, because a moron is not delusional, and you are that as well. perhaps we can call it vertexoron (defined by webster dictionary to be ``delusional moron``). that seems about right, dont you think?

arjun_m,

Man, read will you. I already said I think it was KURDS. Just ironic that accused in fact don`t benefit at all from this string of terrorism, and no doubt they would understand that (correct feroz?). Anyhow, Turkish PM claims these people were Turk nationals and members of an extremist group. I wonder if that`s speculative still or positive ID has been made.

As for Tom Clancy comment...no doubt their are two script writers here...primary one is American, the other seems to be an international ``open source`` group of Arabs. These events aren`t accidental, they follow from premeditated acts, action and re-action, or more properly counter-action. Reality is always more strange and nuanced than fiction...hence any writer like Tom Clancy must marvel at how such events unfold.


ferozk,

``You are basing your statements on the assumption of ``who benefits`` from all of this and the answer you get, may not gel with the offical truth and once you remove all the possibilities, what is left, no matter how improbale, is most probable explanation.``

Hunh? Can you insert some proper nouns in there...

Assumptions on who benefits seems like a logical choice in absence of any other evidence. We have to ask who and why, among other questions. What are the other possible motivators? How is this to further Al-Queda`s cause? What is the motivation behind this kind of terrorist attack? Prior terrorist campaigns was against occupying powers, and so the rational - ``theory`` if you like - of their terrorism was well understood.

This kind is distinctly different, and seems to defy logic - that invokes suspicion. Aside from simple ``they hate so they commit mass murder`` explanations, what is the political motivations behind these kind of attacks? How do terrorist gauge their success? Why would they waste resources on particular targets if they wouldn`t see some kind of benefit to their cause?

Given above questions, Kurds would seem like a likely choice. Now it seems they`ve ID`d these people so we are left scratching our heads. Maybe these terrorists ARE as retarded as they look...but those of us who are against American Imperalism-lite can`t get over the irony, that the supposed enemy is often doing things that actually help out the American agenda.

Let us keep in mind that America and friends have already been caught in a lie...a down right `conspiracy` no less, in their WMD claims in Iraq. We SHOULD be paranoid against people like that.

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First of all, some sarcasm.

It turns out that the recent bomb blasts in Turkey were the work of the Turkish military. The Turkish military was getting concerned about the increasing Islamic sentiment in Turkish politics and need to take steps to stop the so-called Islamization of Turkish politics. As Turkey is interested in joining the European Union, the possiblity of a military coup to change the government was not a politically feasible possibility. Therefore, it was decided that Turkish military would ``stage`` a few terrorist attacks and blame it on Turkish citizens and this way, discredit the Islamic parties in Turkey.

re: Vortex # 10

``Even paranoids have enemies`` - Henry Kissenger

In intelligence gathering, there are three different levels of considering available information: probable, possible, and improable. A good intelligence officer will always consider the three options and in fact, s/he is encouraged to theorize about possibilities that seem as unlikely. There are ``links`` or facts, which may seem as conspiracy theories, but they have to be considered. Good intelligence pre-supposes that everything must be considered before it is presented. The basic rule in intelligence gathering is, which makes it imperative to consider all the possibilities no matter how illogical they seem, is that truth is stranger than fiction.

You are basing your statements on the assumption of ``who benefits`` from all of this and the answer you get, may not gel with the offical truth and once you remove all the possibilities, what is left, no matter how improbale, is most probable explanation.

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Saudi first, now Turkey.

Seems to be home-grown, although details are scarce. No one knows who is doing the attacks, although Western analysts like to invoke Al-Queda, which seems to be more of a terminology for such kind of attackers rather than an actual movement.

After Riyadh attacks, Americans turned towards Saudis and pretty much said ``we told you so``. That is, their ``support`` for foreign militants (...let us put aside the fact that this support began on America`s behalf...) was the ``root cause``. Funny, when same is said to Americans, it`s some how considered improper to mention.

Now, we have attacks in Turkey...a country that was anti-Iraq war but in the end somewhat willing to send troops to Iraq - sort of. Writer is correct in stating these attacks were related to Turkey. My bet is on Kurdish terrorists who want to ensure Turkey stays OUT of northern Iraq...West too busy blaming everything from ozone depletion to DPG (donkey propelled grenade) attacks on ``The Book``.

In both cases though, it shouldn`t be lost on us (those skeptical of American intensions in the region) that attacks in Saudis and Turkey were in fact congruent with American interests. Nothing like turning a population seemingly hostile to your interests like a few attacks of these natures to make it seem that there was a common enemy all this time. And his name was Sadama Bin Laden.

Anyone see Tom Clancy on CNN? I think he looked jealous, because whoever`s writing the script to this show is doing one heck`ve a job....

post 7,

I will support taht for pakistan. In the legal system of pakistan, most elements of the book has been puit into practice, the blasphemy laws and honour killings, what is needed next is hand choppings and kalifayet. There is hope for pakistan, when the elites like you can seriously think of kalifayet, and in a way will be the most convincing answer to pakistan ka matlab kys.

haroonelahi #7 are you seriously unaware that the caliphate was the form of government in the middle east for a thousand years?

if you dont like democracy, that is good though: that means you want someone else to tell you what to do. i am in need of a slave to do my bidding (some of them i will turn into eunuchs, as was done in the caliphates). i will be glad to accomodate all of those individuals who do not wish to live in a democracy and would rather follow a caliph like a bunch of eunuchs.