Cynical 21st Century Psychobabble
Nadeem F Paracha December 17, 2003
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#171 Posted by gujjubania on December 29, 2003 7:08:54 am
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#170 Posted by gujjubania on December 28, 2003 11:43:01 pm
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#169 Posted by Warlus on December 27, 2003 10:11:36 am
Monty pyton was post-modern alright. But Paracha sahib is post-post-modern:) And my Indian friends should stop being so pre-modern regarding *BHARAT*.
#168 Posted by trashman on December 27, 2003 9:05:31 am
nb
your opinons, sir, and respect them, even though I believe Monty Python is quite post-modern. Anyway, not only do us Pakistani`s think Mr.Paracha is a crackling read but he`s pretty popular with British readers as well, especially with the members of BBC`s famous Spoiledink.Com. In fact, the site`s editor, Scot Dile, is quite an admirer of his.
your opinons, sir, and respect them, even though I believe Monty Python is quite post-modern. Anyway, not only do us Pakistani`s think Mr.Paracha is a crackling read but he`s pretty popular with British readers as well, especially with the members of BBC`s famous Spoiledink.Com. In fact, the site`s editor, Scot Dile, is quite an admirer of his.
#167 Posted by trashman on December 27, 2003 7:35:38 am
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#166 Posted by nb on December 27, 2003 7:35:38 am
trashman 161
I don`t think there is any comparison between the definition of Islam (the definition of Bharat is pathetic but harmless) and Judaism in the article. I don`t think the definition of kafir is all that insulting, either. I can imagine Zionists (not that they`d be here) pointing to articles like this, written by liberal Muslims and responses like yours from other liberal Muslims, and saying triumphantly, they really hate us all, we`ve got to keep protecting ourseves. It`s a pity you think that is humour. I have read the defences, but I thought they were pretty weak, not surprisingly so, written by people who think of Jews the way you all obviously do. I say this in spite of having been fed some awful latkes for Hannukah.
Monty Python is hardly post-modern, you know, and I`m not completely sure who Jagdeep is-oh, ok, I remember, he`s Javed Jaffrey`s dad. Monty Python`s still on all the time on ABC radio here, and all the other ones that the oldies listen to, I think he`s very good. One that was really good was the politicians speech. I think Ali G is incredibly good as well, because he`s so subversive-and he`s even handed with his appallingly poor taste. The funniest thing on TV ever, though, is something called Kath & Kim, which you will never see in the US, but Brits probably will. I did follow that you see Ash as one extreme of India- but it`s interesting that you have used Hinduism and India interchangeably. Of course my sense of humour is different from yours- I should certainly hope so, anyway. Anyone that agrees with what we say is reasonable and anyone who laughs at our jokes has a sense of humour. The author is ok, if he amuses Pakistanis, he`s doing his job, but he`s not a comic genius who deserves international acclaim.
I don`t think there is any comparison between the definition of Islam (the definition of Bharat is pathetic but harmless) and Judaism in the article. I don`t think the definition of kafir is all that insulting, either. I can imagine Zionists (not that they`d be here) pointing to articles like this, written by liberal Muslims and responses like yours from other liberal Muslims, and saying triumphantly, they really hate us all, we`ve got to keep protecting ourseves. It`s a pity you think that is humour. I have read the defences, but I thought they were pretty weak, not surprisingly so, written by people who think of Jews the way you all obviously do. I say this in spite of having been fed some awful latkes for Hannukah.
Monty Python is hardly post-modern, you know, and I`m not completely sure who Jagdeep is-oh, ok, I remember, he`s Javed Jaffrey`s dad. Monty Python`s still on all the time on ABC radio here, and all the other ones that the oldies listen to, I think he`s very good. One that was really good was the politicians speech. I think Ali G is incredibly good as well, because he`s so subversive-and he`s even handed with his appallingly poor taste. The funniest thing on TV ever, though, is something called Kath & Kim, which you will never see in the US, but Brits probably will. I did follow that you see Ash as one extreme of India- but it`s interesting that you have used Hinduism and India interchangeably. Of course my sense of humour is different from yours- I should certainly hope so, anyway. Anyone that agrees with what we say is reasonable and anyone who laughs at our jokes has a sense of humour. The author is ok, if he amuses Pakistanis, he`s doing his job, but he`s not a comic genius who deserves international acclaim.
#165 Posted by rsridhar on December 26, 2003 8:29:45 pm
re:#162 by nb
Thanks for your post.
My post to Gujjubania was meant to educate him as to the trivialness of money in the larger scheme of things. I found him totally focussed on the money aspect of life. No doubt, as a young man, his life experiences are limited. I was offended when he went on arguing without a firm basis. To me rule of law, culture are more important than money itself. I probably did not make myself clear in that post.
Sridhar
Thanks for your post.
My post to Gujjubania was meant to educate him as to the trivialness of money in the larger scheme of things. I found him totally focussed on the money aspect of life. No doubt, as a young man, his life experiences are limited. I was offended when he went on arguing without a firm basis. To me rule of law, culture are more important than money itself. I probably did not make myself clear in that post.
Sridhar
#164 Posted by riffat on December 26, 2003 11:11:28 am
Ref#163
Well said, trashman. ``Bharat`` as a burp they find insulting. ``Islam`` as a Pushtun name for bachelor’s party for would-be polygamists is fine? Well most of us Pakistanis found BOTH funny. We win. Kashmir hamara hai!! D.
Well said, trashman. ``Bharat`` as a burp they find insulting. ``Islam`` as a Pushtun name for bachelor’s party for would-be polygamists is fine? Well most of us Pakistanis found BOTH funny. We win. Kashmir hamara hai!! D.
#163 Posted by trashman on December 26, 2003 10:27:01 am
nb
It is surpeizing tha even after reading all 160 replys you`re still asking questions that more or less have already been answered, at least by us Pakistanis. Isn`t it clear that the judaism definition is a clear attack at the hard core Zionists who are creating an irony by doing to the Palastinians what the Nazis did to them? Same is the case with the Bharat definition. A satirical take of the sort of Bharat right-wing hindus would like to imagine. Ash on the other hand is playing the role of one extreme of India, used here to sarcastically describe the other extreme. I am surprized that none of our Indian friends reacted as strongly and humouressly about definitions of the words Islam, Fundamentalism and Kafir.
A pity, indeed. Anyway I shall not suggest you have no sesnse of humour for not liking Mr.Paracha`s style, however, I would suggest you start watching stuff like Monty Python, etc., instead of old Jagdeep flicks to appreciate post-modern satire.
It is surpeizing tha even after reading all 160 replys you`re still asking questions that more or less have already been answered, at least by us Pakistanis. Isn`t it clear that the judaism definition is a clear attack at the hard core Zionists who are creating an irony by doing to the Palastinians what the Nazis did to them? Same is the case with the Bharat definition. A satirical take of the sort of Bharat right-wing hindus would like to imagine. Ash on the other hand is playing the role of one extreme of India, used here to sarcastically describe the other extreme. I am surprized that none of our Indian friends reacted as strongly and humouressly about definitions of the words Islam, Fundamentalism and Kafir.
A pity, indeed. Anyway I shall not suggest you have no sesnse of humour for not liking Mr.Paracha`s style, however, I would suggest you start watching stuff like Monty Python, etc., instead of old Jagdeep flicks to appreciate post-modern satire.
#162 Posted by nb on December 26, 2003 7:41:56 am
This is completely fascinating. I didn`t think very highly of the article but the responses are worth studying in themselves. As is often the case with chowk.
I don`t know that just not agreeing with what the writer says makes people humourless. I`d really like to know, DrDr (what`s that nick for?) if your friend really has that programme. I sounds pretty interesting. Unfortuantely, writing styles are so culture specific-how does that work? A lot of people apparently in their 30s and 40s and 50s on chowk certainly write like teenagers, and their views are even more juvenile.I did think gujjubania writes like an older man, but I guess I`m happy to learn he`s not- some of us, though not all, do mellow with age.
I have a problem with a number of the author`s definitions. It`s scary that people think that way, supposedly liberal thinking people-I refer specifically to the Judaism one. Where does that leave the liberal Jews of the world who are willing to give the Palestinians a chance? How different is this attitude from the Nazis? The Jews can and do look after themselves, though, and probably couldn`t be bothered less about articles like this-sadly, they expect no more from any and all Muslims, so I guess I shouldn`t be bothered for them. Bharat is just unfunny but amuse your selves if you want, I guess. I don`t know what poor Ash has to do with the definition of Hinduism.
Sridhar, I wanted to say -because you are a doctor- that as a profession, we have exceptionally high IQ scores, and let`s face it, we`re probably as good a bunch of souls as you could find anywhere. For myself, I`m not a doctor because of the wages-they`re not the end, though they do pay for the VW/Beemer. Most of us are smarter than a lot of people who make more than us. (My friend`s ex-girlfriend was a stripper, and she used to make 3 times as much as he did!)I could make more money by being an internet porn enterpreneur or a heroin dealer, as two of my patients have been in the past- so I find your equation of success with money profoundly disturbing. It`s not quite like us...you were probably very angry.
Gujjubania, the IIT-JEEs aren`t too far away, so you shouldn`t be wasting time-your mum and dad are probably wringing their hands with despair!
Tahmed, 12 head hasn`t gone anywhere, his distinctive writing style shows him up, even right here. It`s not surprising that you would think his contributions more interesting than gujjubania`s -its all about what we want to hear. Unfortunately, there wasn`t a lot new in your exchange, was there?
Subroto, come off it, mate- G`day maayte is more like, aren`t we really the lucky country? I`ve just spent a glorious Xmas in the pool and on the beach-where else would you want to live? They`ve taken the loss fairly well, I think-so many people came up to me and said , our boys were getting a bit full of themselves, good thing the Indians took them down a notch. They still haven`t recovered from the rugby-and neither have I! In the meantime, I wait to hear what Shane Warne`s mum does next..
I don`t know that just not agreeing with what the writer says makes people humourless. I`d really like to know, DrDr (what`s that nick for?) if your friend really has that programme. I sounds pretty interesting. Unfortuantely, writing styles are so culture specific-how does that work? A lot of people apparently in their 30s and 40s and 50s on chowk certainly write like teenagers, and their views are even more juvenile.I did think gujjubania writes like an older man, but I guess I`m happy to learn he`s not- some of us, though not all, do mellow with age.
I have a problem with a number of the author`s definitions. It`s scary that people think that way, supposedly liberal thinking people-I refer specifically to the Judaism one. Where does that leave the liberal Jews of the world who are willing to give the Palestinians a chance? How different is this attitude from the Nazis? The Jews can and do look after themselves, though, and probably couldn`t be bothered less about articles like this-sadly, they expect no more from any and all Muslims, so I guess I shouldn`t be bothered for them. Bharat is just unfunny but amuse your selves if you want, I guess. I don`t know what poor Ash has to do with the definition of Hinduism.
Sridhar, I wanted to say -because you are a doctor- that as a profession, we have exceptionally high IQ scores, and let`s face it, we`re probably as good a bunch of souls as you could find anywhere. For myself, I`m not a doctor because of the wages-they`re not the end, though they do pay for the VW/Beemer. Most of us are smarter than a lot of people who make more than us. (My friend`s ex-girlfriend was a stripper, and she used to make 3 times as much as he did!)I could make more money by being an internet porn enterpreneur or a heroin dealer, as two of my patients have been in the past- so I find your equation of success with money profoundly disturbing. It`s not quite like us...you were probably very angry.
Gujjubania, the IIT-JEEs aren`t too far away, so you shouldn`t be wasting time-your mum and dad are probably wringing their hands with despair!
Tahmed, 12 head hasn`t gone anywhere, his distinctive writing style shows him up, even right here. It`s not surprising that you would think his contributions more interesting than gujjubania`s -its all about what we want to hear. Unfortunately, there wasn`t a lot new in your exchange, was there?
Subroto, come off it, mate- G`day maayte is more like, aren`t we really the lucky country? I`ve just spent a glorious Xmas in the pool and on the beach-where else would you want to live? They`ve taken the loss fairly well, I think-so many people came up to me and said , our boys were getting a bit full of themselves, good thing the Indians took them down a notch. They still haven`t recovered from the rugby-and neither have I! In the meantime, I wait to hear what Shane Warne`s mum does next..
#161 Posted by trashman on December 25, 2003 10:59:32 am
Warlus
Your question is valid. But bulk of Paracha`s staunch ``cult`` following have always understood his lashings & pangs against multinational cpapitalism and relegious hippocracies. Those who don`t I think love their colas and burgers and tableegi beards a bit too much. They`re cozy in their worlds propagated to them by cola companies, corporate mongers, hip islamists and , in india, the bjp and cable tv. ;)
Your question is valid. But bulk of Paracha`s staunch ``cult`` following have always understood his lashings & pangs against multinational cpapitalism and relegious hippocracies. Those who don`t I think love their colas and burgers and tableegi beards a bit too much. They`re cozy in their worlds propagated to them by cola companies, corporate mongers, hip islamists and , in india, the bjp and cable tv. ;)
#160 Posted by Warlus on December 25, 2003 7:43:47 am
REFF:#156 by ofayyaz on December 24, 2003 7:52am PT
~NFP,
I finally understood your cola-battle.
Bravo~
NFP`s going on and on about how multinationals are screwing up whatever intelligence left in Pakisatan and India`s middle class youth for over a decade now. He`s usd his cutting satire, fiction, music reviews and what not push home the point. I just don`t understand why so many of his readers have taken so long to understand the method behind his anti-corporate and anti-organized-relegion rants?
~NFP,
I finally understood your cola-battle.
Bravo~
NFP`s going on and on about how multinationals are screwing up whatever intelligence left in Pakisatan and India`s middle class youth for over a decade now. He`s usd his cutting satire, fiction, music reviews and what not push home the point. I just don`t understand why so many of his readers have taken so long to understand the method behind his anti-corporate and anti-organized-relegion rants?
#159 Posted by tahmed32 on December 25, 2003 6:41:21 am
rsridhar #153 I shall add the movie to my list of new year resolutions. It is important to understand the cultural backdrop that caused gujjubania to emerge from a Coke Hall. ;-)
#158 Posted by Tolckinen on December 24, 2003 7:53:10 am
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#157 Posted by gujjubania on December 24, 2003 7:53:10 am
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#156 Posted by ofayyaz on December 24, 2003 7:52:52 am
NFP,
I finally understood your cola-battle.
Bravo
I finally understood your cola-battle.
Bravo
#155 Posted by ali_1 on December 23, 2003 9:39:41 pm
stukay... this is MY joke..... search unplugged and you`ll find it BEFORE you posted..... not saying that you stole it... just that great minds think alike at times :-)
#154 Posted by rsridhar on December 23, 2003 8:29:10 pm
re:#150 by gujjubania
Hey, A$$HOLE,
Why don`t you do us all a favor and go to your other interactive sites. Otherwise i will do to you what a dog does to a lampost, if you know what i mean?
You are a despicable creature. Your interacts with respectable people like tahmed have only proved to me that present generation of Indians are worthless. you are a living proof. I am ashamed of you. Now, begone and leave us in peace.
Sridhar
Hey, A$$HOLE,
Why don`t you do us all a favor and go to your other interactive sites. Otherwise i will do to you what a dog does to a lampost, if you know what i mean?
You are a despicable creature. Your interacts with respectable people like tahmed have only proved to me that present generation of Indians are worthless. you are a living proof. I am ashamed of you. Now, begone and leave us in peace.
Sridhar
#153 Posted by rsridhar on December 23, 2003 8:29:10 pm
re:#136 by tahmed32
tahmad sahib,
If you have not watched the movie ``kal ho na ho`` please watch it. It has some hilarious clips with some Gujju characters. One of them (Satish Shah) mispronounces Coke as Cock and Hall as Hole.
I see arrogance and increasing decadence among the neo-rich Gujjus in USA. By the way, you must know that most of the motels in US are owned by Patels.
rsridhar
tahmad sahib,
If you have not watched the movie ``kal ho na ho`` please watch it. It has some hilarious clips with some Gujju characters. One of them (Satish Shah) mispronounces Coke as Cock and Hall as Hole.
I see arrogance and increasing decadence among the neo-rich Gujjus in USA. By the way, you must know that most of the motels in US are owned by Patels.
rsridhar
#152 Posted by DrDr on December 23, 2003 5:13:02 pm
gujju,
Its ok. Betwn his skills & Ur many ``truths`` Id pick him evrytime. I wuz hoping that U`d email him & let him know. He cud use another datapoint.
Its ok. Betwn his skills & Ur many ``truths`` Id pick him evrytime. I wuz hoping that U`d email him & let him know. He cud use another datapoint.
#151 Posted by stuka on December 23, 2003 4:00:41 pm
Ali_1
``Lord of the Rings:
Latest American movie sensation!
Lard of the Lings:
Shivaji, India`s favorite god!``
Wah Beta!! Merey hee jokes copy kar key suna raha hai? Kuch to sharam kar!!
``Lord of the Rings:
Latest American movie sensation!
Lard of the Lings:
Shivaji, India`s favorite god!``
Wah Beta!! Merey hee jokes copy kar key suna raha hai? Kuch to sharam kar!!
#150 Posted by ali_1 on December 23, 2003 2:38:41 pm
Lord of the Rings:
Latest American movie sensation!
Lard of the Lings:
Shivaji, India`s favorite god!
Latest American movie sensation!
Lard of the Lings:
Shivaji, India`s favorite god!
#149 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2003 2:38:41 pm
gujju #145 i go through all this trouble of educating you so you dont make a fool out of yourself on the internet, and all you can do is come whimpering back to your tahmed cha cha and asking about chachi jan`s health as if nothing had happened and as if urstruly had never written that post #140 which should have made your brahmin blood boil? You want ME to respond to urstruly and DrDr for you?? I will disown you as my nephew if you dont start writing like a man and keep writing like a mouse.
#148 Posted by gujjubania on December 23, 2003 2:38:41 pm
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#147 Posted by gujjubania on December 23, 2003 12:36:28 pm
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#146 Posted by saminshah on December 23, 2003 12:36:28 pm
#110 by Tolckinen on December 22, 2003 6:49am PT
``Guuju RATS /Gujju /Kolata Bhowanipore /
WHY GUUJUS ARE DESPISED OF ALL ETHNIC ENTITY IN MUMBAI OR CALCUTTA OR EVEN LALOO RIDICULED THEM AS PESTS????
Also except for insatiable thirst to earn RUPEES ,Guju do not contribute anything to
DEFENCE
ART
SPORTS music LITERATURE
prose poetry Painting Humanities
Sociology Philosophy etc.etc
part of HUMANISING element of any SOCIETY worthy of RESPECT????????????????? ``
for your kind information man of mila.. father of indian nation mahatma gandhi is gujju.
iron man of india who shap india which it stand today vallabhbhai patel in gujju.
most honest prime minister and first not congressi prime minister of india moraraji desai is gujju.
founding father of indian space programe vikram sarabhai is gujju
if you want more tell me list will be longer.
``Guuju RATS /Gujju /Kolata Bhowanipore /
WHY GUUJUS ARE DESPISED OF ALL ETHNIC ENTITY IN MUMBAI OR CALCUTTA OR EVEN LALOO RIDICULED THEM AS PESTS????
Also except for insatiable thirst to earn RUPEES ,Guju do not contribute anything to
DEFENCE
ART
SPORTS music LITERATURE
prose poetry Painting Humanities
Sociology Philosophy etc.etc
part of HUMANISING element of any SOCIETY worthy of RESPECT????????????????? ``
for your kind information man of mila.. father of indian nation mahatma gandhi is gujju.
iron man of india who shap india which it stand today vallabhbhai patel in gujju.
most honest prime minister and first not congressi prime minister of india moraraji desai is gujju.
founding father of indian space programe vikram sarabhai is gujju
if you want more tell me list will be longer.
#145 Posted by DrDr on December 23, 2003 12:36:28 pm
#144
gujju, it aint psych. Hes written this neat program that uses neural networks and uses known writing styles as traning sets. U feed it somebodys writing & it guesses their age. U R good candidate coz Uv been posting a lot and the style cant be stilted all the time. Its pattern recognition & methinks hes set to be a multimillionaire when he graduates. Has he pegged U down? Apparently the younguns write a lot differently than U do & UR more like a 30+ and the style is anachronistic.
gujju, it aint psych. Hes written this neat program that uses neural networks and uses known writing styles as traning sets. U feed it somebodys writing & it guesses their age. U R good candidate coz Uv been posting a lot and the style cant be stilted all the time. Its pattern recognition & methinks hes set to be a multimillionaire when he graduates. Has he pegged U down? Apparently the younguns write a lot differently than U do & UR more like a 30+ and the style is anachronistic.
#144 Posted by Warlus on December 23, 2003 10:37:58 am
#19 by Urstruly on December 18, 2003 9:13am PT
~and when i say that hindus are indecent people, I am pounced upon. Proof is in the pudding....I mean proof is in the daal.....burp....excuse me. Phrrrrrrt pardon me. ~
Pardon me, people. I may be rather late on this, but this post was as hilarious and funny as anthing in the article. Urstruly this really cracked me open. LOL!
~and when i say that hindus are indecent people, I am pounced upon. Proof is in the pudding....I mean proof is in the daal.....burp....excuse me. Phrrrrrrt pardon me. ~
Pardon me, people. I may be rather late on this, but this post was as hilarious and funny as anthing in the article. Urstruly this really cracked me open. LOL!
#143 Posted by Warlus on December 23, 2003 10:37:58 am
#19 by Urstruly on December 18, 2003 9:13am PT
~and when i say that hindus are indecent people, I am pounced upon. Proof is in the pudding....I mean proof is in the daal.....burp....excuse me. Phrrrrrrt pardon me. ~
Pardon me, people. I may be rather late on this, but this post was as hilarious and funny as anthing in the article. Urstruly this really cracked me open. LOL!
~and when i say that hindus are indecent people, I am pounced upon. Proof is in the pudding....I mean proof is in the daal.....burp....excuse me. Phrrrrrrt pardon me. ~
Pardon me, people. I may be rather late on this, but this post was as hilarious and funny as anthing in the article. Urstruly this really cracked me open. LOL!
#142 Posted by Warlus on December 23, 2003 10:37:58 am
Nadeem F. Paracha, can one get hold of your e-mail? Checked you out at The News, Karachi, but they said you can only by found at ungodly hours.And yes, they quite sincearly informed that they had absolutely no idea about where you can be found in sane daylight:-]
#141 Posted by gujjubania on December 23, 2003 10:37:58 am
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#140 Posted by Urstruly on December 23, 2003 9:15:01 am
Thanks fellas for educating me. I didn`t know who gujjus were therefore I didn`t know that I should hate them; and by the way I still dont know why should I hate gujjus. I dont hate banias either. The word bania just paints an ugly picture in my mind - A bald and fat pot-bellied fatso sitting cross-legged wearing dhotti and a till on his side with daals, wheat and all other kinds of grains nicely displayed in half opened sacks in his shop. With two skinny helpers keeping the little mountains of daal straight on the displays. Everytime bania sells something he puts money in the till and says to his customer `lalaji in saalay Paksitani MusloN ne hamaray kashmir mein barri afat machai hoi hay`` and just as the customer leaves he lifts his cheek a little bit and releases pungent air.
But this is no reason to hate him.
#139 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2003 8:47:55 am
gujjubania: OK your 2 days to respond to my simple question (``What kind of a man boasts?``) are up. You have chosen not to answer it.
I will not embarass you any further by providing you the obvious answer. I hope you will remember the answer to this question (which of course I had already provided in my earlier post) next time you start puffing up your chest (like your cousin arjun) and start crowing about India and trying to insult pakistan. Just be grateful that the Indian economy finally got some wind under its sails, and that after 50 years international economists have stopped joking about the ``hindu rate of growth`` of 4 percent. And dont treat poverty (still widespread in both india and pakistan) as a joke - unless you want to grow up to be a cheapster like arjun.
I have now introduced you to urstruly (see my other post), since romair wasnt around. urstruly doesnt mind taking a few swipes at hindus if he thinks there are no softheaded pakistanis around to spoil his fun. i cant wait for the hindu-muslim paper communal riot to start between you and urstruly!!
I will not embarass you any further by providing you the obvious answer. I hope you will remember the answer to this question (which of course I had already provided in my earlier post) next time you start puffing up your chest (like your cousin arjun) and start crowing about India and trying to insult pakistan. Just be grateful that the Indian economy finally got some wind under its sails, and that after 50 years international economists have stopped joking about the ``hindu rate of growth`` of 4 percent. And dont treat poverty (still widespread in both india and pakistan) as a joke - unless you want to grow up to be a cheapster like arjun.
I have now introduced you to urstruly (see my other post), since romair wasnt around. urstruly doesnt mind taking a few swipes at hindus if he thinks there are no softheaded pakistanis around to spoil his fun. i cant wait for the hindu-muslim paper communal riot to start between you and urstruly!!
#138 Posted by dost_mittar on December 23, 2003 8:18:01 am
Urstruly:
In India`s anglicised circles, it`s common to use abbreviation for people, gujjus for gujratis, mallus for keralites, punjus for punjabis and surds for sardars/sikhs.
...and btw dont call a khatri, a bania to his face:-)
In India`s anglicised circles, it`s common to use abbreviation for people, gujjus for gujratis, mallus for keralites, punjus for punjabis and surds for sardars/sikhs.
...and btw dont call a khatri, a bania to his face:-)
#137 Posted by DrDr on December 23, 2003 8:06:33 am
gujju,
A friend -a profiling expert - deduces Ur writing style as that of a 30+. He puts U at 32 - 36. Not what U write mind U but how U write it. Hes originally from Belgaum if U care and a grad student like me. Hed like to know if hes right. His email birky99athotmail.
A friend -a profiling expert - deduces Ur writing style as that of a 30+. He puts U at 32 - 36. Not what U write mind U but how U write it. Hes originally from Belgaum if U care and a grad student like me. Hed like to know if hes right. His email birky99athotmail.
#136 Posted by tahmed32 on December 23, 2003 8:04:33 am
urstruly #133 a gujju is a gujrati, i gather from chowk. and you better remember this, given that gujjubania picked his name because he thought pakistanis were all not just familiar with this term but would start abusing him because they would think he is a mere gujju. And he has also revealed that he is not really a bania, but a brahmin who has only taken on the name gujju in order to shock all those who thought he was just a low caste guy when in fact he is a high caste guy. So you better first pretend to look down upon him because you think he is a bania, and then when he reveals he is a brahman, you better pretend to be shocked and ashamed that he should have confused this high-born chap with a mere bania. And when not going around like an indian version of haroun-al rashid, gujjubania (or His Highness GujjuBrahman, which is what he really is) goes on western websites and pretends he is a muslim who is thrilled about 9/11. And he is telling this on chowk since he thinks will make pakistanis mad.
In other words, he is even more confused than you are. I am trying to help him overcome his confusion since I have nothing better to do.
In other words, he is even more confused than you are. I am trying to help him overcome his confusion since I have nothing better to do.
#135 Posted by rsridhar on December 23, 2003 7:55:22 am
re: Gujjubania`s last post
``And my `puny brain` is still brainier than your entire family tree combined. ``
After your last post, i am wondering if you have any brains at all!
Since you place money as the criteria of success (which i certainly don`t), you and i can talk at the same level only after you start earning a 6 figure amount (in dollars) as annual salary (which is what i am doing today in USA). I guess we can talk about brain power after that.
You are really not worth wasting my time on, so this will be my last post addressed to you.
While Gujarat carnage happened after an initial provocation, the worst thing about this was that the whole state apparatus sided with the culprits. Modi just looked the other way.
While Bihar is not progressing economically, someday it will. It will happen when people of that state get wiser and elect a better person as their leader and realize that they need to get their acts together. But Bihar is a safe haven for minorities.
Between Modi and Lalloo, i prefer Lalloo anytime. He may be a bad economic role model but he does not threaten India`s security and interests as much as Modi does.
Now, if you wil excuse me, i have better thing to do than interact with idiots like you. Consider this as my last post addressed to you.
Sridhar
``And my `puny brain` is still brainier than your entire family tree combined. ``
After your last post, i am wondering if you have any brains at all!
Since you place money as the criteria of success (which i certainly don`t), you and i can talk at the same level only after you start earning a 6 figure amount (in dollars) as annual salary (which is what i am doing today in USA). I guess we can talk about brain power after that.
You are really not worth wasting my time on, so this will be my last post addressed to you.
While Gujarat carnage happened after an initial provocation, the worst thing about this was that the whole state apparatus sided with the culprits. Modi just looked the other way.
While Bihar is not progressing economically, someday it will. It will happen when people of that state get wiser and elect a better person as their leader and realize that they need to get their acts together. But Bihar is a safe haven for minorities.
Between Modi and Lalloo, i prefer Lalloo anytime. He may be a bad economic role model but he does not threaten India`s security and interests as much as Modi does.
Now, if you wil excuse me, i have better thing to do than interact with idiots like you. Consider this as my last post addressed to you.
Sridhar
#134 Posted by jang on December 23, 2003 7:55:22 am
#129 and gujjus coming out..
methinks gujju is seeking acceptance at chowk. kind of cute.
methinks gujju is seeking acceptance at chowk. kind of cute.
#133 Posted by Urstruly on December 23, 2003 7:40:26 am
If I may interject here - could someone please educate me as to what the hell is a Gujju and why hindus hate it so much. I get it so far that it is not ``it`` but it is a person so who is a gujju and why a combination of gujju and bania is bad. Judging by word bania I think gujju is a khatri by caste. But another board a Hindu was threatening Gujju to rape his mothers and sisters. Is Gujju a derogatory name for Muslims. Am I right?
#132 Posted by dost_mittar on December 23, 2003 4:01:04 am
gujjubania:
On the Internet, the message is the only thing that counts. As for the messenger, we know only as much as s/he wants to reveal. But if you are what you say, I am encouraged that young Indians are taking an active interest in the affairs of their nation. I am however not so pleased with the job that my generation has done of passing on our old sanskritic values of tolerance, compassion and respect, to the next generation.
You asked in one of your posts why people do not criticise the communal violence against Biharis in Assam. Of course, they (and I) do and will if the context is there. However, I get the impression that you should be intelligent enough to understand the difference between the garden variety communal violence that erupts in India from time to time and the sustained massacres conducted with the support and encouragement of the ``CEO`` of a state.
On the Internet, the message is the only thing that counts. As for the messenger, we know only as much as s/he wants to reveal. But if you are what you say, I am encouraged that young Indians are taking an active interest in the affairs of their nation. I am however not so pleased with the job that my generation has done of passing on our old sanskritic values of tolerance, compassion and respect, to the next generation.
You asked in one of your posts why people do not criticise the communal violence against Biharis in Assam. Of course, they (and I) do and will if the context is there. However, I get the impression that you should be intelligent enough to understand the difference between the garden variety communal violence that erupts in India from time to time and the sustained massacres conducted with the support and encouragement of the ``CEO`` of a state.
#131 Posted by Tolckinen on December 22, 2003 8:49:29 pm
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#130 Posted by rsridhar on December 22, 2003 8:06:11 pm
re: MODI
Here is one more:
M: Morbidly
O: Obsessive
D: Devil
I: Incarnate
Sridhar
Here is one more:
M: Morbidly
O: Obsessive
D: Devil
I: Incarnate
Sridhar
#129 Posted by rsridhar on December 22, 2003 8:06:11 pm
re: My post # 125
``Why am i not convinced that you are a real Gujju and not a Kannadiga, as you claim? `` should read as ``Why am i not convinced that you are a Kannadiga and not a Gujju?``.
Sridhar
``Why am i not convinced that you are a real Gujju and not a Kannadiga, as you claim? `` should read as ``Why am i not convinced that you are a Kannadiga and not a Gujju?``.
Sridhar
#128 Posted by gujjubania on December 22, 2003 8:06:11 pm
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#127 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2003 8:06:11 pm
stuka #124 One of the very interesting things about the internet is that we are what we write - no one gets an advantage or disadvantage because of age, personality, ethnicity, race, gender, social status and so on. The playing field is extremely level. (This incidentally, is a phenomenon that social scientists have written about and even demonstrated through experiments).
Now, if I was having an argument with gujjubania where I wrote something mean then THAT would certainly be demeaning to me. But I think you will agree that that is not the case (but let me know if there is something mean i wrote to him). Since after all, a poster no more and no less than what he or she writes. And of course anything gujjubania writes about me is going to define him, not me. Since we are what WE write, not what someone else writes about us.
At least that is the best explanation I could come up with to your post. :-)
Now, if I was having an argument with gujjubania where I wrote something mean then THAT would certainly be demeaning to me. But I think you will agree that that is not the case (but let me know if there is something mean i wrote to him). Since after all, a poster no more and no less than what he or she writes. And of course anything gujjubania writes about me is going to define him, not me. Since we are what WE write, not what someone else writes about us.
At least that is the best explanation I could come up with to your post. :-)
#126 Posted by rsridhar on December 22, 2003 5:12:40 pm
re:#119 by gujjubania
Why am i not convinced that you are a real Gujju and not a Kannadiga, as you claim? Prove me wrong.
Anyway, the fact that Gujarat is progressing economically does not take away the fact that Modi is a human excrement and needs to be flushed down the toilet or, as Vijay Tendulkar said recently, ``shot at close range``. He and his brand of politics will bring India to ruin someday.
May be the following article will broaden your mind a little:
http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=323523
Excerpts:
1. ``The conventional wisdom is that economic progress and the emergence of a middle class promote moderate and centrist policies, and as such provide the conditions for a liberal democratic politics. But in Gujarat the murderous Hindu gangs were led by the rich and educated: doctors, advocates, shopkeepers roved in cars, punched mobile phones and used government-supplied computer printouts of Muslim addresses to conduct their systematic mayhem.
If we allow that Bangalore represents a possible India, so too does Gujarat. Contrary to some views, I would stress that Gujarat is not an `aberration` - it would be foolish to try to reassure ourselves in this way: for many it represents the first step in the creation of a Hindu rashtra, and what is happening there shows that economic development seems to be entirely compatible with extremist politics.``
2. ``India seems on the face of it poised between such choices. On the one hand, there is a shrink-wrap, software-package India, where `brain arbitrage` is the new spice trade and where India is a global brand-name advertising the world`s electronic `back-office`. On the other hand, there is a self-inflated, venomous redefinition of India in terms of the ideology of Hindutva - where, with mobile phone in one hand and trishul in the other, we see modern technology and medieval weapons turned to lethal ends. A choice between India as Brand Software or as Brand Saffron, between the promise of Bangalore or the threat of Gujarat.``
See if your puny little brain can understand the following from the above Url:
``So, in committing India to a democratic order, the founders committed us to learning to live with conflict. They avoided the authoritarian temptation - associated with ideologies of religious nationalism - which do not allow for recognition of conflicts in their society (more precisely, they wish to suppress conflict, through intimidation and terror), acknowledge that ultimately all politics is potentially about conflict - conflicts about values, about how to achieve those values, as well as conflicts over interests and how to secure these. But they also tried to show - in the constitutional order they established - that a primary art of politics is the ability to moderate and contain conflicts: to transform them from something base to something richer. that is the alchemical promise of democratic politics. The founders saw that by recognising the presence of differences, often deep set ones, one might be able to find ways to contain them, in ways that actually enhance the overall, long-term stability of the Indian project.``
Read the whole article not once but several times to understand why economic prosperity is short lived in the absence of rule of law. Moditva is a serious challenge to India. I hope Indians will throw this rubbish where it belongs: into the dustbin of history.
Sridhar
Why am i not convinced that you are a real Gujju and not a Kannadiga, as you claim? Prove me wrong.
Anyway, the fact that Gujarat is progressing economically does not take away the fact that Modi is a human excrement and needs to be flushed down the toilet or, as Vijay Tendulkar said recently, ``shot at close range``. He and his brand of politics will bring India to ruin someday.
May be the following article will broaden your mind a little:
http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=323523
Excerpts:
1. ``The conventional wisdom is that economic progress and the emergence of a middle class promote moderate and centrist policies, and as such provide the conditions for a liberal democratic politics. But in Gujarat the murderous Hindu gangs were led by the rich and educated: doctors, advocates, shopkeepers roved in cars, punched mobile phones and used government-supplied computer printouts of Muslim addresses to conduct their systematic mayhem.
If we allow that Bangalore represents a possible India, so too does Gujarat. Contrary to some views, I would stress that Gujarat is not an `aberration` - it would be foolish to try to reassure ourselves in this way: for many it represents the first step in the creation of a Hindu rashtra, and what is happening there shows that economic development seems to be entirely compatible with extremist politics.``
2. ``India seems on the face of it poised between such choices. On the one hand, there is a shrink-wrap, software-package India, where `brain arbitrage` is the new spice trade and where India is a global brand-name advertising the world`s electronic `back-office`. On the other hand, there is a self-inflated, venomous redefinition of India in terms of the ideology of Hindutva - where, with mobile phone in one hand and trishul in the other, we see modern technology and medieval weapons turned to lethal ends. A choice between India as Brand Software or as Brand Saffron, between the promise of Bangalore or the threat of Gujarat.``
See if your puny little brain can understand the following from the above Url:
``So, in committing India to a democratic order, the founders committed us to learning to live with conflict. They avoided the authoritarian temptation - associated with ideologies of religious nationalism - which do not allow for recognition of conflicts in their society (more precisely, they wish to suppress conflict, through intimidation and terror), acknowledge that ultimately all politics is potentially about conflict - conflicts about values, about how to achieve those values, as well as conflicts over interests and how to secure these. But they also tried to show - in the constitutional order they established - that a primary art of politics is the ability to moderate and contain conflicts: to transform them from something base to something richer. that is the alchemical promise of democratic politics. The founders saw that by recognising the presence of differences, often deep set ones, one might be able to find ways to contain them, in ways that actually enhance the overall, long-term stability of the Indian project.``
Read the whole article not once but several times to understand why economic prosperity is short lived in the absence of rule of law. Moditva is a serious challenge to India. I hope Indians will throw this rubbish where it belongs: into the dustbin of history.
Sridhar
#125 Posted by rsridhar on December 22, 2003 5:12:40 pm
re: MODI
MODI is an acronymn for:
M: Mad
O: Obsessive
D: Dirty
I: Idiot
Any more suggestions?
Sridhar
MODI is an acronymn for:
M: Mad
O: Obsessive
D: Dirty
I: Idiot
Any more suggestions?
Sridhar
#124 Posted by stuka on December 22, 2003 3:45:45 pm
TAhmed: Why u demean yourself arguing with a 17 yr old kid? Jeezus, after his last story, I feel like an idiot for being riled by a fictitious charachter.
#123 Posted by yellow3 on December 22, 2003 12:00:44 pm
#120
Ha,ha,ha.That`s exactly it Paracha. Bania man, your penis is falling off. Must be real a HEADache?
Ha,ha,ha.That`s exactly it Paracha. Bania man, your penis is falling off. Must be real a HEADache?
#122 Posted by nvp2003 on December 22, 2003 12:00:44 pm
lol@NFP.
gujjubania
And as I was saying, my dear friend ... *MODI* ... oops, excuse me. Must be the Gujrati thali.
gujjubania
And as I was saying, my dear friend ... *MODI* ... oops, excuse me. Must be the Gujrati thali.
#121 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2003 12:00:43 pm
gujju #117 You think you can bribe me by cutting and posting articles from the internet, and thus get off the hook? I gave you 48 hours to answer a simple question (What kind of a man boasts?), and now you have dillied and dallied and you have only 24 hours left and the clock is ticking louder every minute. So quit wasting your time on the internet, and get to work on that damned answer. Regards, tahmed cha cha
PS: You hang out with your pakistani cha cha tahmed and soon you`ll start walking and talking like a man. Not scurrying around the internet like a mouse, changing nicks at every stop.
PS: You hang out with your pakistani cha cha tahmed and soon you`ll start walking and talking like a man. Not scurrying around the internet like a mouse, changing nicks at every stop.
#120 Posted by baaghiraja on December 22, 2003 10:24:05 am
REF: #51,60, 64,65,69,73,89,194,105,117,119:
The horrible side effects of excessive autoeroticism.
_ NFP
The horrible side effects of excessive autoeroticism.
_ NFP
#119 Posted by gujjubania on December 22, 2003 9:55:06 am
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#118 Posted by yellow3 on December 22, 2003 9:55:06 am
#115
Three Stooges, fuzair ? And you think this is ``too crass and slapstick?`` Please.
I agree with Riffat. This like most Paracha articles is very much like absured Monty Python humour.
Three Stooges, fuzair ? And you think this is ``too crass and slapstick?`` Please.
I agree with Riffat. This like most Paracha articles is very much like absured Monty Python humour.
#117 Posted by gujjubania on December 22, 2003 9:55:06 am
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#116 Posted by riffat on December 22, 2003 9:19:57 am
Ref#15
Actually it;s quite LIKE Monty Python. Are you sure it wasn`t Benny Hill you liked?
Actually it;s quite LIKE Monty Python. Are you sure it wasn`t Benny Hill you liked?
#115 Posted by fuzair on December 22, 2003 9:05:19 am
Sorry PunjabiZulu, thought it was one of Stuka`s. Didn`t mean to not give credit where it was due.
Yellow3,
I think of myself of relatively openminded and shockproof AND with a sense of humour (e.g., I like Blackadder, the Three Stooges, Yes (Prime and) Minister, Seinfeld, Monty Python and most of Hamidm`s posts) but this is just not funny. Just stupid and somewhat crass. Just because it shocks doesn`t make it funny. True humour, once you go past the slapstick, has to have some wit and intelligence in it. This, for the most part, lacks both.
Regards to all.
Yellow3,
I think of myself of relatively openminded and shockproof AND with a sense of humour (e.g., I like Blackadder, the Three Stooges, Yes (Prime and) Minister, Seinfeld, Monty Python and most of Hamidm`s posts) but this is just not funny. Just stupid and somewhat crass. Just because it shocks doesn`t make it funny. True humour, once you go past the slapstick, has to have some wit and intelligence in it. This, for the most part, lacks both.
Regards to all.
#114 Posted by tahmed32 on December 22, 2003 8:07:08 am
panjanbizulu #109 and peace to you too, bro. And to all other chowk posters too. (including anew and jay, may God bless their tiny little hearts).
#113 Posted by riffat on December 22, 2003 8:07:08 am
lol@nvp2003. Banya bhai, here`s one from me. From Paracha`s dictionary which you so much love. I dedicate this to your lovely posts:
``Hysteria
Obscene female rantings caused by lecherous Freudian jinns. ``
PZ:
Take care & a happy new year. No hard feelings :)
``Hysteria
Obscene female rantings caused by lecherous Freudian jinns. ``
PZ:
Take care & a happy new year. No hard feelings :)
#112 Posted by Warlus on December 22, 2003 8:07:07 am
This is great, Paracha. Quite hilarious, really. Very much like your old, madcap pieces. Good to see you back from that hell you`d gotten yourself into. Nice to know your brain cells are still intact. One hell of a way to represent Pakistan`s literary face, though. Screw the pseudos. This is the REAL stuff. Shoot away, mad man. All power to you.
#111 Posted by nvp2003 on December 22, 2003 7:10:48 am
Abay o baniay. Your attitude and life and preachings need a short, crisp moto, not dumb long monologues. So let me do you a favour and give it to you. Two lines from NFP`s `Acidity PT:1``: Off with the people who can`t fart from their mouth and eat through their asses. All power to the masses!
Suck on it, punk!
Suck on it, punk!
#110 Posted by Tolckinen on December 22, 2003 6:49:06 am
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#109 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 22, 2003 6:48:55 am
fuzair
HinJew conspiracy was my one, not Stuka`s!
I only want credit where it is due man because I respect your taste so much.
:-)
The rest of you:
Goodbye...
#108 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 22, 2003 6:48:55 am
tahmed
Peace to you...Merry Christmas
:-)
#107 Posted by dost_mittar on December 22, 2003 4:59:06 am
gujjubania:
``(If you really really wanna know who I am , e-mail your credit card number and date of expiry to mohammed_akhtar_india@yahoo.com. )``
...you do have a sense of humour. Now, if only you could get rid of a little bit of that hatred, you might turn into a respectable bania/brahmin instead of a Modi-worshipping gujju, after all.
But I do think that you live outside India, unless you work for a call centre and sitting in front of a computer at 4:30 in the morning.
``(If you really really wanna know who I am , e-mail your credit card number and date of expiry to mohammed_akhtar_india@yahoo.com. )``
...you do have a sense of humour. Now, if only you could get rid of a little bit of that hatred, you might turn into a respectable bania/brahmin instead of a Modi-worshipping gujju, after all.
But I do think that you live outside India, unless you work for a call centre and sitting in front of a computer at 4:30 in the morning.
#106 Posted by tahmed32 on December 21, 2003 7:23:28 pm
gujjubania #105 I see that my gracious suggestion to terminate this discussion has fallen on deaf ears. Since you obviously are badly in need of education, I shall therefore stick around for one more post, as follows:
First lesson: On Honesty. Be honest - you were not preaching. You were boasting. And what kind of a man feels the need to boast? Think about this for a while: in fact, consider the answer to this question to be your homework assignment, with report submission due in two days. (and dont try to get help from jay thakeray - he doesnt know the answer either).
Second Lesson: On Preaching. You dont preach to the converted. Did you read anything from me about conquering kashmir or anything? Most Pakistanis dont need any lessons on the subject. If you dont believe me, I suggest you read the large number of anti-military articles by Pakistanis on chowk, and the overwhelming support they get. Musharaff isnt stupid, and he is opting for peace with India because he knows people are interested in economic progress, and no on military confrontations.
However, if you cant digest your food without preaching, I suggest you go preach to someone like Romair. He`ll be happy to oblige I am sure, and you can both enjoy writing lengthy posts that go past one another.
First lesson: On Honesty. Be honest - you were not preaching. You were boasting. And what kind of a man feels the need to boast? Think about this for a while: in fact, consider the answer to this question to be your homework assignment, with report submission due in two days. (and dont try to get help from jay thakeray - he doesnt know the answer either).
Second Lesson: On Preaching. You dont preach to the converted. Did you read anything from me about conquering kashmir or anything? Most Pakistanis dont need any lessons on the subject. If you dont believe me, I suggest you read the large number of anti-military articles by Pakistanis on chowk, and the overwhelming support they get. Musharaff isnt stupid, and he is opting for peace with India because he knows people are interested in economic progress, and no on military confrontations.
However, if you cant digest your food without preaching, I suggest you go preach to someone like Romair. He`ll be happy to oblige I am sure, and you can both enjoy writing lengthy posts that go past one another.
#105 Posted by gujjubania on December 21, 2003 2:53:30 pm
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#103 Posted by nvp2003 on December 21, 2003 1:14:15 pm
Ref:#98
NFP you`re quite a ba**ard! What a topsy turvy reply. Always wanting to get the last laugh. Love you for that. Good luck to bharat.
NFP you`re quite a ba**ard! What a topsy turvy reply. Always wanting to get the last laugh. Love you for that. Good luck to bharat.
#102 Posted by DrDr on December 21, 2003 1:14:15 pm
gujju
methinks U R a 30+ code coolie livin in the US. Prove me wrong!
methinks U R a 30+ code coolie livin in the US. Prove me wrong!
#101 Posted by riffat on December 21, 2003 1:14:15 pm
Finally, the man arrives. Fair response, paracha, but do tell us what exactly are your intentions for visiting bharat? Over to you PunjabyZulu.:)
#100 Posted by khatam-shud on December 21, 2003 1:14:14 pm
this was a great list! thanks for the laughs.
#99 Posted by CoolHandLuke on December 21, 2003 1:14:14 pm
What? NFP actually being apologetic? Naaaa, don`t believe it. Has to be a catch somewhere.He`s just too slippery.
#98 Posted by baaghiraja on December 21, 2003 6:50:18 am
If the intention of this piece was to start that typical India vs. Pakistan debate on chowk, then it was a success. If the intention was to parody the post-Cold-War bastardization of certain definitions, then it was a failure. Whatever the case, being offensive was certainly not the intention.
Anyway, thank you all who enjoyed it, and my apologies to those who were appalled. I think you would be interested to know that I would be visiting Bharat sometime early next year. And I do plan to carry this `dictionary` with me.
_ Nadeem F. Paracha
Anyway, thank you all who enjoyed it, and my apologies to those who were appalled. I think you would be interested to know that I would be visiting Bharat sometime early next year. And I do plan to carry this `dictionary` with me.
_ Nadeem F. Paracha
#97 Posted by MichaelM on December 21, 2003 6:50:17 am
Sad,
From 33 (sadna):
``A lot of references to digestion in this list. I liked Cola though- having always wondered how flavored water could become such a potent symbol globally. How about Nike? ``*
That is the explanation of all this attempt of humour (sorry I don`t find it funny. I`m really sorry): `burp` from the beginning to the end. You watch propaganda on TV, and you feel like being an actor of all this mess. So you decide what is laughable, what is more laughable and that nothing can`t be take seriously.
The problem is that exercise is highly difficult. And I don`t think that we have a success here (did I say that I was sorry?).
It remember me a movie from Sweden or Denmark (long time ago)where a guy is watching TV for days and days, and has a world record for that. He`s so absorbed by all the images that in the end his body react to the television (for example his tongue become blue when he`s watching the sea).
At that time,where the critic is possible? Consumerist society, well maybe. What it seems to be is that more you think you are free to think (oh oh, look, how this guy is ridiculous in this Elvis costume!!! Oh oh, George Bush is a moron, but wait, he said true things!homosexuals are wrong, because I`m not, and I`m a model of virtue, cause I can refrain my homosexuals desire, but I will never be agree with this idea etc... **) more you`re accepting all that. Why?
Well, it seems strange that the american movies are not in the list (Bollywood, Lollwood,but where is Hollywood?). No matter if all what is said about Bollywood work for Hollywood too (even the choregraphic fight, dushum dushum, against the villain are dances no? What, you mean that they really want to say that the only solution for peace is to kill people?).
Well William Burroughs was not for any legalisation of such substances (hashish).
Oh, I forgot this point (maybe the most important): the americaniZation of the english. Cause in this subcontinent we don`t speak british, my dear friend, and not even Indian english, what an horrible idea, but american indian!
Of course, these Englishmen are so bad. They destroyed our country, so we have to ignore them (but why do english is still used? Paradox). No, let`s be consumerist americaniZed sheeps. It`s so Kool! And let`s be politically incorrect (niggah, ah,ah, jewish bad, ah ah***).
Well, it`s the real Pax Americana after all. Nobody can criticise it seriously (see see, I`m funny but I watch trash on TV).
I think it`s a good idea, after all, to search to be an american citizen if we have to absorb all this propaganda and declare that there is no other solutions.
But there is other solutions (that`s my opinion).
Well it seems to be a message from a Coca-Colist conspiration of fat indian and pakistani couch potatoes.
Pepsi is absent. Dr. Pepper never existed (ah ah, not for you!!!), and Lassi`s corporation is in fact 100% texan.
MichaelM, from his cave,somewhere near the frontier with hindu, sikh, musulman, bouddhist, christians etc, ranged by family name, sex, skin pigmentation, political interest, size of their bank account, possibility of making jokes using an imported language from a rainy small island in Europe, but secularist after all, bharati logz. I`m in Pakistan,funny mixture of population who distinguish themselves with the way of wearing a calvar Kamiz and their ability to imitate indian or american way of life and saying that is not good.
Pakistan ki Jay! Bharat Zindabad!
* Nike means `Victory` in Greek. In France, we pronounced it ``Na-ik``, when we would be supposed to use the french pronounciation: neek. Why? Because it still sounds american (greek sucks dude), and avoid to think of the french word `nique` which mean `fuck` (yes, but I will not play the censor game). `Nique` in french seems coming from arabic. I don`t know, have to check it.
** it`s not me who is talking here. It`s just possibilities. Don`t throw stones please!
*** Same thing. No,not on the head! Aouch!
From 33 (sadna):
``A lot of references to digestion in this list. I liked Cola though- having always wondered how flavored water could become such a potent symbol globally. How about Nike? ``*
That is the explanation of all this attempt of humour (sorry I don`t find it funny. I`m really sorry): `burp` from the beginning to the end. You watch propaganda on TV, and you feel like being an actor of all this mess. So you decide what is laughable, what is more laughable and that nothing can`t be take seriously.
The problem is that exercise is highly difficult. And I don`t think that we have a success here (did I say that I was sorry?).
It remember me a movie from Sweden or Denmark (long time ago)where a guy is watching TV for days and days, and has a world record for that. He`s so absorbed by all the images that in the end his body react to the television (for example his tongue become blue when he`s watching the sea).
At that time,where the critic is possible? Consumerist society, well maybe. What it seems to be is that more you think you are free to think (oh oh, look, how this guy is ridiculous in this Elvis costume!!! Oh oh, George Bush is a moron, but wait, he said true things!homosexuals are wrong, because I`m not, and I`m a model of virtue, cause I can refrain my homosexuals desire, but I will never be agree with this idea etc... **) more you`re accepting all that. Why?
Well, it seems strange that the american movies are not in the list (Bollywood, Lollwood,but where is Hollywood?). No matter if all what is said about Bollywood work for Hollywood too (even the choregraphic fight, dushum dushum, against the villain are dances no? What, you mean that they really want to say that the only solution for peace is to kill people?).
Well William Burroughs was not for any legalisation of such substances (hashish).
Oh, I forgot this point (maybe the most important): the americaniZation of the english. Cause in this subcontinent we don`t speak british, my dear friend, and not even Indian english, what an horrible idea, but american indian!
Of course, these Englishmen are so bad. They destroyed our country, so we have to ignore them (but why do english is still used? Paradox). No, let`s be consumerist americaniZed sheeps. It`s so Kool! And let`s be politically incorrect (niggah, ah,ah, jewish bad, ah ah***).
Well, it`s the real Pax Americana after all. Nobody can criticise it seriously (see see, I`m funny but I watch trash on TV).
I think it`s a good idea, after all, to search to be an american citizen if we have to absorb all this propaganda and declare that there is no other solutions.
But there is other solutions (that`s my opinion).
Well it seems to be a message from a Coca-Colist conspiration of fat indian and pakistani couch potatoes.
Pepsi is absent. Dr. Pepper never existed (ah ah, not for you!!!), and Lassi`s corporation is in fact 100% texan.
MichaelM, from his cave,somewhere near the frontier with hindu, sikh, musulman, bouddhist, christians etc, ranged by family name, sex, skin pigmentation, political interest, size of their bank account, possibility of making jokes using an imported language from a rainy small island in Europe, but secularist after all, bharati logz. I`m in Pakistan,funny mixture of population who distinguish themselves with the way of wearing a calvar Kamiz and their ability to imitate indian or american way of life and saying that is not good.
Pakistan ki Jay! Bharat Zindabad!
* Nike means `Victory` in Greek. In France, we pronounced it ``Na-ik``, when we would be supposed to use the french pronounciation: neek. Why? Because it still sounds american (greek sucks dude), and avoid to think of the french word `nique` which mean `fuck` (yes, but I will not play the censor game). `Nique` in french seems coming from arabic. I don`t know, have to check it.
** it`s not me who is talking here. It`s just possibilities. Don`t throw stones please!
*** Same thing. No,not on the head! Aouch!
#96 Posted by riffat on December 21, 2003 12:47:26 am
Ref:#93
Sir, it seems you glance more at pakistan than india. I`m sure india would have been a better place had most indians been interested in glancing at their own country than pakistan.
Sir, it seems you glance more at pakistan than india. I`m sure india would have been a better place had most indians been interested in glancing at their own country than pakistan.
#95 Posted by yellow3 on December 21, 2003 12:47:26 am
#88 by fuzair :I guess I`m not smart or sophisticated enough to understand this particular brand of humour.
Accept my deepest simpathies and concern for you. But I don`t think one has to be sophisticated to understand Paracha`s brand of humour. Just a bit open minded and shock-proof!
Accept my deepest simpathies and concern for you. But I don`t think one has to be sophisticated to understand Paracha`s brand of humour. Just a bit open minded and shock-proof!
#94 Posted by tahmed32 on December 20, 2003 11:05:59 pm
gujjubania #89 yes indeed, india is a very rich country and pakistan is a very, very poor country. this should make you very happy. seems like you, like too many of your countrymen, suffer from some deep inferiority complex where you keep harping on the fact that india is doing better than pakistan economically nowadays - not that either india or pakistan are anything other than the cesspools of the world, and not that poverty is anything to laugh about - but never mind all that since these are things that are obviously beyond your understanding.
also, i wont go down to your level by dragging in female members in your family. i could if i wanted to (and must admit have done so when i felt like in the past, and may do so again if it pleases me), but i wont this time. last post to you for now.
also, i wont go down to your level by dragging in female members in your family. i could if i wanted to (and must admit have done so when i felt like in the past, and may do so again if it pleases me), but i wont this time. last post to you for now.
#93 Posted by rsridhar on December 20, 2003 11:05:59 pm
re: Pakistan at a glance
A: Average Abdul, a Paki specimen wearing a Sherwani below his loin and ``pareyshani`` on his face; Amreeka, Pak`s ``mai-baap``; Ayaz Amir, the one guy i respect.
B: Bibi, the other name for Pak`s Imelda Marcos. When not in power, Benazir Bhutto urf Bibi talks about democracy. When in power, she is too busy siphoning off money.
C: Can`t think of anything; may include ``chootias`` who abound both sides of the border but me- thinks they are more numerous in the ``land of the pure``. many ``Charsees`` on the Pak-Afghan border also comes to mind.
D: Democrazy, that has never had much of a life in Pak and has become an oft-repeated but much maligned word there; Dawood Ibrahim, the ``Shahi mehman`` of Pakistan who brings in the much needed ``phoren`` exchange to the country along with his brand of ``gunda gardi``.
E: English educated elite of Pakistan who rule the country and have utter disregard of everybody else; hate India but watch bollywood movies only to get some kick out of Aishwarya Rai.
F: Film or ``Fillam`` as it is called by Desis; preferably Indian fillum.
G: Godhra (or Gujarat carnage), which Pakis like to throw up to embarass Indians every now and then; Gulli-danda, a favourite sport in the subcontinent; Mushy used to play this. Now it is only ``G*nd-mey-danda`` for him; Guantanoma Bay: now the favorite resting place for many Pakis.
H: ``Hoor`` or the 72 virgins promised to a jehadi; ``Haleem``,``Halaal`` the 2 words i got to know while eating out with my Paki friend in New York; Honor- a big thing in Pak; Honor-killing where one kills for one`s honor and everyone else (including the judge) looks the other way.
I: India, the much feared, hated, envied word; ``Inshallah`` meaning ``God-willing``. Inshallah we will fukc these Indoos someday, Pakis seem to say. Only it is never said so explicitly; Imran Khan, the irresistable ``Khan``, only he seems to be unable to resist the temptation of ruling Pak someday; ISI, the much hated word in India.
J: Jehad with a promise of ``Jannat`` (with 72 hoors, see H above) to the jehadis
K: Kashmir, the big word in Pakistan; i can visualise Pakis salivating, going into grotesque postures, shaking their heads at lost opportunities at the mention of this word
L: Lahore, the Paris of the East; where Bollywood babe Urmila Matondkar found men to her liking! ``lahore vilakurvat`` is a curse word often used by my hindi techer (an immigrant from Pak); i imagine it has something to do with Lahore; Lollywood- a poor copy of Bollywood.
M: Money, in short supply in Pak; Mangla Dam, the controversial dam; Mian Nawaz Sharief who was unceremoniously packed off to Saudi Arabia for crossing swords with the Army Chief; Musharraf, who i like to call as simply ``Mushy``, the ``Mohajir supreme``, the blue eyed boy of US of A; MMA- a rising star of Pakistan?
N: Nawaz Sharief (see above); Noorjehan, the melody queen of Pak, also named ``Malka-e-tarannum``;
O: Osama-bin-Laden; most Pakis still consider him a hero.
P: Pakistan; after 1971, it is really a ``bakistan``; more recently, a ``problemistan``.
Q: Quetta; Qatl, Qatil: all nice words; Qoran (or Holy Qoran)- the much talked about but much misunderstood book in Pak.
R: Reema; i hear she is/was a hot thing in Lollywood; What happened to her? May be someone made her into a ``keema``.
S: Sindh; Sargodha; what else? Can`t think of any.
T: Talaaq; you need to say it only 3 times to move on with your life! Isnt` that good?
U: Urstruly, one specimen in Chowk; gives us a clue what Pak`s mullahs must be like; Ugly is the word.
V: vindictive, vicious: all of which describes the Pak`s mullahs; virgins: (see ``hoors`` or 72 virgins above).
W: Waderas- the powerful landlords of Pak
Y: Yehudis- the much hated word in Pak after the Indoos; ``ya-allah`` a word often used by Pakis when in trouble; i heard it used when Pak was losing to India in the crucial match in the last world cup; there was this gentleman with Holy Qoran on his lap, muttering some verses and both hands open heavenwords, pleading to God Almighty to get rid of Sachin Tendulkar. Pak lost that match. When was the last time God listened to such jerks anyway?
Z: Zameer, Zillat- all nice words in Urdu ( i do not know their meaning!); Zeenat Aman-famous in her haydays for her escapades with Imran ``irresistable`` Khan; Now-a-days, Mama Zinny looks scary.
Sridhar
P.S: These are my humble attempts to make some sense out of Pak, the land of the pure. People are welcome to contribute.
A: Average Abdul, a Paki specimen wearing a Sherwani below his loin and ``pareyshani`` on his face; Amreeka, Pak`s ``mai-baap``; Ayaz Amir, the one guy i respect.
B: Bibi, the other name for Pak`s Imelda Marcos. When not in power, Benazir Bhutto urf Bibi talks about democracy. When in power, she is too busy siphoning off money.
C: Can`t think of anything; may include ``chootias`` who abound both sides of the border but me- thinks they are more numerous in the ``land of the pure``. many ``Charsees`` on the Pak-Afghan border also comes to mind.
D: Democrazy, that has never had much of a life in Pak and has become an oft-repeated but much maligned word there; Dawood Ibrahim, the ``Shahi mehman`` of Pakistan who brings in the much needed ``phoren`` exchange to the country along with his brand of ``gunda gardi``.
E: English educated elite of Pakistan who rule the country and have utter disregard of everybody else; hate India but watch bollywood movies only to get some kick out of Aishwarya Rai.
F: Film or ``Fillam`` as it is called by Desis; preferably Indian fillum.
G: Godhra (or Gujarat carnage), which Pakis like to throw up to embarass Indians every now and then; Gulli-danda, a favourite sport in the subcontinent; Mushy used to play this. Now it is only ``G*nd-mey-danda`` for him; Guantanoma Bay: now the favorite resting place for many Pakis.
H: ``Hoor`` or the 72 virgins promised to a jehadi; ``Haleem``,``Halaal`` the 2 words i got to know while eating out with my Paki friend in New York; Honor- a big thing in Pak; Honor-killing where one kills for one`s honor and everyone else (including the judge) looks the other way.
I: India, the much feared, hated, envied word; ``Inshallah`` meaning ``God-willing``. Inshallah we will fukc these Indoos someday, Pakis seem to say. Only it is never said so explicitly; Imran Khan, the irresistable ``Khan``, only he seems to be unable to resist the temptation of ruling Pak someday; ISI, the much hated word in India.
J: Jehad with a promise of ``Jannat`` (with 72 hoors, see H above) to the jehadis
K: Kashmir, the big word in Pakistan; i can visualise Pakis salivating, going into grotesque postures, shaking their heads at lost opportunities at the mention of this word
L: Lahore, the Paris of the East; where Bollywood babe Urmila Matondkar found men to her liking! ``lahore vilakurvat`` is a curse word often used by my hindi techer (an immigrant from Pak); i imagine it has something to do with Lahore; Lollywood- a poor copy of Bollywood.
M: Money, in short supply in Pak; Mangla Dam, the controversial dam; Mian Nawaz Sharief who was unceremoniously packed off to Saudi Arabia for crossing swords with the Army Chief; Musharraf, who i like to call as simply ``Mushy``, the ``Mohajir supreme``, the blue eyed boy of US of A; MMA- a rising star of Pakistan?
N: Nawaz Sharief (see above); Noorjehan, the melody queen of Pak, also named ``Malka-e-tarannum``;
O: Osama-bin-Laden; most Pakis still consider him a hero.
P: Pakistan; after 1971, it is really a ``bakistan``; more recently, a ``problemistan``.
Q: Quetta; Qatl, Qatil: all nice words; Qoran (or Holy Qoran)- the much talked about but much misunderstood book in Pak.
R: Reema; i hear she is/was a hot thing in Lollywood; What happened to her? May be someone made her into a ``keema``.
S: Sindh; Sargodha; what else? Can`t think of any.
T: Talaaq; you need to say it only 3 times to move on with your life! Isnt` that good?
U: Urstruly, one specimen in Chowk; gives us a clue what Pak`s mullahs must be like; Ugly is the word.
V: vindictive, vicious: all of which describes the Pak`s mullahs; virgins: (see ``hoors`` or 72 virgins above).
W: Waderas- the powerful landlords of Pak
Y: Yehudis- the much hated word in Pak after the Indoos; ``ya-allah`` a word often used by Pakis when in trouble; i heard it used when Pak was losing to India in the crucial match in the last world cup; there was this gentleman with Holy Qoran on his lap, muttering some verses and both hands open heavenwords, pleading to God Almighty to get rid of Sachin Tendulkar. Pak lost that match. When was the last time God listened to such jerks anyway?
Z: Zameer, Zillat- all nice words in Urdu ( i do not know their meaning!); Zeenat Aman-famous in her haydays for her escapades with Imran ``irresistable`` Khan; Now-a-days, Mama Zinny looks scary.
Sridhar
P.S: These are my humble attempts to make some sense out of Pak, the land of the pure. People are welcome to contribute.
#92 Posted by aggressivesoul on December 20, 2003 11:05:59 pm
hah..i just knew that my first comment on Chowk had to be on NFP`s article!
gr8 piece...esp after the Cable-Unable one...just amazing the way he mixes up everythin that it makes perfect sense at the same time!
havent read all of the 91 comments...coz most seem to be the same old indo-Pak sh|t...so dunno if anyone mentioned that this article of NFP got published on the webzine www.bandbaja.org too...
gr8 piece...esp after the Cable-Unable one...just amazing the way he mixes up everythin that it makes perfect sense at the same time!
havent read all of the 91 comments...coz most seem to be the same old indo-Pak sh|t...so dunno if anyone mentioned that this article of NFP got published on the webzine www.bandbaja.org too...
#91 Posted by dost_mittar on December 20, 2003 4:47:35 pm
trashman:
My comment on the article was ``moderately funny``....the rest is a commentary on others` comments.
I make a distinction between humour, insults and put downs.
BTW the author was calling India, not hindu fanatics, as something like the burping sound of people suffering from chronic indigestion. It is in the same league as the insulting remark about Pakistan by sridar #50. I regard these both as an example of mean insults rather than good humour. OTOH Subroto #75 is an example of humour without insults.
My comment on the article was ``moderately funny``....the rest is a commentary on others` comments.
I make a distinction between humour, insults and put downs.
BTW the author was calling India, not hindu fanatics, as something like the burping sound of people suffering from chronic indigestion. It is in the same league as the insulting remark about Pakistan by sridar #50. I regard these both as an example of mean insults rather than good humour. OTOH Subroto #75 is an example of humour without insults.
#90 Posted by gujjubania on December 20, 2003 4:21:37 pm
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#89 Posted by yellow3 on December 20, 2003 4:21:37 pm
Bharat: The burping sound made by right-wing Hindu patients of chronic indigestion. Example: “So, my dear friends, as I was saying … *BHARAT! * … excuse me.”
Ummm..actually that WAS pretty funny. No offense meant. Don`t mind a ``king kong``, though.
Ummm..actually that WAS pretty funny. No offense meant. Don`t mind a ``king kong``, though.
#88 Posted by fuzair on December 20, 2003 4:21:36 pm
Stuka:
``HinJew conspiracies.`` I like that one; very funny.
However, I fail to see the humour in this particular piece. Barring one or two funny ones, the rest are just plain stupid. I guess I`m not smart or sophisticated enough to understand this particular brand of humour.
``HinJew conspiracies.`` I like that one; very funny.
However, I fail to see the humour in this particular piece. Barring one or two funny ones, the rest are just plain stupid. I guess I`m not smart or sophisticated enough to understand this particular brand of humour.
#87 Posted by yellow3 on December 20, 2003 10:37:52 am
Wow! Seems like an intellectual rehersal pit for an all-out nuclear combat.
Great article, though. A friend of mine told me Paracha is a ``wickedly good writer`` and that I shall find him here on chowk. So here I am, and absoluely not dissapointed.
Great article, though. A friend of mine told me Paracha is a ``wickedly good writer`` and that I shall find him here on chowk. So here I am, and absoluely not dissapointed.
#86 Posted by trashman on December 20, 2003 10:37:52 am
Ref:#85 by dost-mittar
Bombai was a pretty different kind of a city during Siri 420, sir. This was long before one Mr.Bal Thakray. Anyways we were laughing at Paracha`s so-called nihilist ways with which he lashes his acidic sarcasm in his own anarchic ways at everything considered to be sacred, may it be any relegion or any ``capitalist triumph`` after the end of the cold war.
PZ
If you were only attacking paracha and not pakistan then he was only taking a shot at hindu fanatics and not india or hinduism. And that Genocide with a J I`m sure meant how a race which had suffered genocide is now doing the same to another race in the name of a jew state.
Bombai was a pretty different kind of a city during Siri 420, sir. This was long before one Mr.Bal Thakray. Anyways we were laughing at Paracha`s so-called nihilist ways with which he lashes his acidic sarcasm in his own anarchic ways at everything considered to be sacred, may it be any relegion or any ``capitalist triumph`` after the end of the cold war.
PZ
If you were only attacking paracha and not pakistan then he was only taking a shot at hindu fanatics and not india or hinduism. And that Genocide with a J I`m sure meant how a race which had suffered genocide is now doing the same to another race in the name of a jew state.
#85 Posted by dost_mittar on December 20, 2003 9:25:12 am
PZ#81
``Huh? i thought you guys, had, like, an amazing sense of humour and everything, ummm, what happened, I was led to believe that y`all were a nation of Woody Allens or something, why can`t you take a joke? Now I am all confused...``
``Yeh Bombai hai meray bhai Bombai. Yehan doosron ko girta dekh kar sab hanste hain, par jab khud girte hain to hansna bhool jaate hain!``
(from film Shri 420)
``Huh? i thought you guys, had, like, an amazing sense of humour and everything, ummm, what happened, I was led to believe that y`all were a nation of Woody Allens or something, why can`t you take a joke? Now I am all confused...``
``Yeh Bombai hai meray bhai Bombai. Yehan doosron ko girta dekh kar sab hanste hain, par jab khud girte hain to hansna bhool jaate hain!``
(from film Shri 420)
#84 Posted by tahmed32 on December 20, 2003 9:21:48 am
zulu #81 i meant to tell you, i re-read your post as you had asked, and agree that your anger was directed at paracha only. But why even paracha? he was clearly writing in good ``borderless`` humor in this article.
anyway, your love for Bharat is admirable: i am all for patriotism for everyone as long as it does not cross the line and become chauvinism or rabid nationalism. but surely you need to lighten up a bit on chowk.
anyway, your love for Bharat is admirable: i am all for patriotism for everyone as long as it does not cross the line and become chauvinism or rabid nationalism. but surely you need to lighten up a bit on chowk.
#83 Posted by ballukhan on December 20, 2003 8:15:41 am
Sorry guys! this article was a typical school boyish attempt at stereo-typing and lampooning things by constructing banal definitions- some of which are in bad taste . It can be done by any one of us on any of the issues by calling any person, nation, nationality, ideology etc. etc. NAMES.
So, take it in stride!!!
So, take it in stride!!!
#82 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 20, 2003 8:15:41 am
nvp2003#61
Huh? i thought you guys, had, like, an amazing sense of humour and everything, ummm, what happened, I was led to believe that y`all were a nation of Woody Allens or something, why can`t you take a joke? Now I am all confused...
trashboy
Whatever
tahmed
You took Gujjubania`s bait like starving salmon.
#81 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 20, 2003 8:15:41 am
stuka
~~If you want to make me happy, come back as a rabid right wing capitalist and kick some socialist ass around~~
Amen...write an article about the commies man and lets have some fun...
#80 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 20, 2003 8:15:41 am
riffat
I second your request, Paracha pleases come online we would love to chat with you.
Hey maybe Gujju_bania is Paracha doing a deconstructionist post-modernist Marxists satire on HinJew conspiracies and stuff.
Gujju_Banai, you talk out of your @ss man
#79 Posted by jay on December 20, 2003 8:15:40 am
Not a babble
When the statue of sadam was toppled, there were american soldiers, acrowd of iraquis, and they slapped statue with shoes as mark of contempt.
In the cover of darkness, at several street corbers in pakistan, another set of sybols were removed from public view, the replica ghgouri missiles, the symbol of pride and heritage of pakistanis, a reminder of the exploits of a ghouri in flesgh and blood, who looted the wealth of the kafirs.
The missiles, named after the pak hero sysmbolised anew mechanical ghouri, more devastating than the last, a constant reminder to the pakistanis on how the glorious future will be attained.
Suddenly, like the sadam statues, they were removed. Not in public, there no marching US troops, no cheering crowds, but iraquisation neverthless.
The pedestals in bagdad remain empty, so will be the ones in pak capital. The hope is replaced by despair, hopeless ness.
How willa symbol of ennuii look like. What can symbolise void. Only void itself.
When the statue of sadam was toppled, there were american soldiers, acrowd of iraquis, and they slapped statue with shoes as mark of contempt.
In the cover of darkness, at several street corbers in pakistan, another set of sybols were removed from public view, the replica ghgouri missiles, the symbol of pride and heritage of pakistanis, a reminder of the exploits of a ghouri in flesgh and blood, who looted the wealth of the kafirs.
The missiles, named after the pak hero sysmbolised anew mechanical ghouri, more devastating than the last, a constant reminder to the pakistanis on how the glorious future will be attained.
Suddenly, like the sadam statues, they were removed. Not in public, there no marching US troops, no cheering crowds, but iraquisation neverthless.
The pedestals in bagdad remain empty, so will be the ones in pak capital. The hope is replaced by despair, hopeless ness.
How willa symbol of ennuii look like. What can symbolise void. Only void itself.
#78 Posted by jay on December 20, 2003 8:15:25 am
gujjubhai,
neevu aathara mathadu barathu, boli maggu.
neevu aathara mathadu barathu, boli maggu.
#77 Posted by tahmed32 on December 20, 2003 8:15:25 am
gujjubania #73 You are so-o-o-o clever, gujju beta!! (you dont mind if i call you by your first name?) i am told it was actually your posts that got president bush all mad, and he decided to cancel pakistan`s debt to the US, take musharaff out of the doghouse and into camp david, declare him a partner in this war on terrorism, and lift economic sanctions. As I always say: With geniuses like you as enemies, who needs friends.
just dont overdo it, otherwise you may go over the brink and start foaming from the mouth. Like your beloved chacha jay (you must visit him sometimes, btw. he is in that overcrowded ``pakistan-obsessed schizophreniacs`` section of the mental hospital).
just dont overdo it, otherwise you may go over the brink and start foaming from the mouth. Like your beloved chacha jay (you must visit him sometimes, btw. he is in that overcrowded ``pakistan-obsessed schizophreniacs`` section of the mental hospital).
#76 Posted by nvp2003 on December 20, 2003 8:15:25 am
#72 by rsridhar on December 19, 2003 6:16pm PT
re:#61, 66 by nvp2003
I think i hit the bull`s eye. Thanks for your posts.
Sridhar
Whatever makes you happy. You`re welcome.
_ Zulfi.
re:#61, 66 by nvp2003
I think i hit the bull`s eye. Thanks for your posts.
Sridhar
Whatever makes you happy. You`re welcome.
_ Zulfi.
#75 Posted by scott on December 20, 2003 8:15:24 am
# 73 ``PS : Its K-A-N-N-A-D-A actually``
Are u sure its not C-H-U-T-I-Y-A ?
Are u sure its not C-H-U-T-I-Y-A ?
#74 Posted by subroto on December 20, 2003 8:15:24 am
Antacid
Frequently required to counter problems faced by right-wing Hindu patients of chronic indigestion. Also refers to female relatives of burning disposition, e.g. ``Poor uncle was burned by aunt acid``.
Brahmin
Apparently a dhoti wearing hindoo inhabitant of India. Reputed to be humourless (got this from a good source in Bakistan)
Conundrum
The drum beat heard at the start of Conan O Brien show.
Delhi
The heartland of Jaatland
Eggzema
A medical condition caused by a surfeit of eggs in the diet.
Falun Dong
Clearly a member of a member of Falun Gong movement
G`day
G`day mate, so youse finally beat us in a test match youse bast#@
H
Alphabet following G but before I
I
I, me, myself and possibly Irene
Jute
Losing your job and getting the sack
Kollege
Obviously didn`t get to C one
Languor
Lazy chimps found in the lower Himalayas, frequently eaten by the Chinese e.g. “It was hot, yet with a sweet languor about it”
Momin
A question frequently asked by teenagers, e.g. ``Is your momin or is the house free?``
Neoplasm
The new plasma tv that is beyond your budget
Osama
The new range of bed linen now available at the market
P
What an excess of beer can do to your system
Queen
Prince Charles (if you read the tabloids)
Rand
South African currency (and you were thinking?)
Sandwitch
The favoured position of Maulana Sammy
Toilet Humour
Look under the letter ``P``
UN
A divided body
Velleity
1. The lowest degree of desire; imperfect or incomplete volition.
2. A slight wish or inclination.
3. Showing off my vocabulary
Wiggles
You need to acquire a few kids under the age of five in order to understand this word.
Xbox
Something you have always longed to buy for your children, so that you can play mindless violent games on it, er the kids can play too.
Yahoo
Let me just search for suitable word
Zzzz
The snoring sound made after this boring submission
Frequently required to counter problems faced by right-wing Hindu patients of chronic indigestion. Also refers to female relatives of burning disposition, e.g. ``Poor uncle was burned by aunt acid``.
Brahmin
Apparently a dhoti wearing hindoo inhabitant of India. Reputed to be humourless (got this from a good source in Bakistan)
Conundrum
The drum beat heard at the start of Conan O Brien show.
Delhi
The heartland of Jaatland
Eggzema
A medical condition caused by a surfeit of eggs in the diet.
Falun Dong
Clearly a member of a member of Falun Gong movement
G`day
G`day mate, so youse finally beat us in a test match youse bast#@
H
Alphabet following G but before I
I
I, me, myself and possibly Irene
Jute
Losing your job and getting the sack
Kollege
Obviously didn`t get to C one
Languor
Lazy chimps found in the lower Himalayas, frequently eaten by the Chinese e.g. “It was hot, yet with a sweet languor about it”
Momin
A question frequently asked by teenagers, e.g. ``Is your momin or is the house free?``
Neoplasm
The new plasma tv that is beyond your budget
Osama
The new range of bed linen now available at the market
P
What an excess of beer can do to your system
Queen
Prince Charles (if you read the tabloids)
Rand
South African currency (and you were thinking?)
Sandwitch
The favoured position of Maulana Sammy
Toilet Humour
Look under the letter ``P``
UN
A divided body
Velleity
1. The lowest degree of desire; imperfect or incomplete volition.
2. A slight wish or inclination.
3. Showing off my vocabulary
Wiggles
You need to acquire a few kids under the age of five in order to understand this word.
Xbox
Something you have always longed to buy for your children, so that you can play mindless violent games on it, er the kids can play too.
Yahoo
Let me just search for suitable word
Zzzz
The snoring sound made after this boring submission
#73 Posted by gujjubania on December 19, 2003 11:15:14 pm
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#72 Posted by rsridhar on December 19, 2003 6:16:40 pm
re:#61, 66 by nvp2003
I think i hit the bull`s eye. Thanks for your posts.
Sridhar
I think i hit the bull`s eye. Thanks for your posts.
Sridhar
#71 Posted by stuka on December 19, 2003 4:57:32 pm
Gujjubania: If you want to make me happy, come back as a rabid right wing capitalist and kick some socialist ass around. I am not interested in fighting the battle of religion, but I love fighting the battle of ideology.
#70 Posted by riffat on December 19, 2003 3:24:07 pm
Umm.. would Mr. Nadeem F. Paracha be kind enough and enter this bizzare battlefield? I think it`s time you emerge, sir. Our Indian friends are demanding your head. Step in, already!
#69 Posted by gujjubania on December 19, 2003 3:24:07 pm
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#68 Posted by tahmed32 on December 19, 2003 3:24:07 pm
gujjubania #65 I ask you to give me one joke - just one lousy joke on yourself and you are not willing to oblige. What kind of a ``khandani dushman`` (this means ``oooglum shhooglum`` in kennada, by the way) are you?
But wait....all is not lost....you wrote a number of posts which provide the requested joke on gujjubania! Here is the joke then that i have constructed based on your posts (why do i have to do all the work around here?):
Gujjubania: 12-head (bara singha for us civilized pakistanis, ``maiN khootay di sat`` in Kennada)on his off days.
(12-head used to be with us on chowk - and now alas is no more, having been ejected by these lackeys of ISI, chowk staff - who had as many identities as you claim to have in your posts. But he was a lot more imaginative than you, i must say.)
But wait....all is not lost....you wrote a number of posts which provide the requested joke on gujjubania! Here is the joke then that i have constructed based on your posts (why do i have to do all the work around here?):
Gujjubania: 12-head (bara singha for us civilized pakistanis, ``maiN khootay di sat`` in Kennada)on his off days.
(12-head used to be with us on chowk - and now alas is no more, having been ejected by these lackeys of ISI, chowk staff - who had as many identities as you claim to have in your posts. But he was a lot more imaginative than you, i must say.)
#67 Posted by stuka on December 19, 2003 1:17:46 pm
Gujjubania:
I suddenly respect you more then I have in the past. :)
I suddenly respect you more then I have in the past. :)
#66 Posted by gujjubania on December 19, 2003 1:04:15 pm
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#65 Posted by gujjubania on December 19, 2003 1:04:15 pm
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#64 Posted by nvp2003 on December 19, 2003 1:04:15 pm
#62
A bad case of indigestion, I guess, I mean memory loss. Don`t tell him he`s a lier, or he`ll *BHARAT* all over you!
A bad case of indigestion, I guess, I mean memory loss. Don`t tell him he`s a lier, or he`ll *BHARAT* all over you!
#63 Posted by stuka on December 19, 2003 12:10:05 pm
Johngalt:
they didnt have a policy of hiring non engineers ..
???? So u are saying even the Chaiwalla Chaprasis at WIPRO are engineers???
they didnt have a policy of hiring non engineers ..
???? So u are saying even the Chaiwalla Chaprasis at WIPRO are engineers???
#62 Posted by JohnGalt on December 19, 2003 12:00:02 pm
Gujju Bania,
You are a bloody liar. Long time back you claimed on these boards that you worked for Wipro as a programmer and now you claim that you are studying for IIT JEE and other engineering entrance exams? Last time I was in wipro, they didnt have a policy of hiring non engineers .. so you lied then or you are lying now ... I smell a rat
You are a bloody liar. Long time back you claimed on these boards that you worked for Wipro as a programmer and now you claim that you are studying for IIT JEE and other engineering entrance exams? Last time I was in wipro, they didnt have a policy of hiring non engineers .. so you lied then or you are lying now ... I smell a rat
#61 Posted by gujjubania on December 19, 2003 11:15:08 am
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#60 Posted by nvp2003 on December 19, 2003 11:15:08 am
#50 by rsridhar
``I agree. Some of us lack a sense of humor and read too much into the statements.
Now, if you would excuse me, i have to go to ``Pakistan`` to relieve myself. I have been holding it for too long. ``
Hmmm, i see a vital lack of any poty training in childhood. After all what else have Indians, nay, hindus like you have to relieve. I`m sure since mumbai`s now all choaked and stinking ... in fact why not try the urinals on Siachen Glacier?
``I agree. Some of us lack a sense of humor and read too much into the statements.
Now, if you would excuse me, i have to go to ``Pakistan`` to relieve myself. I have been holding it for too long. ``
Hmmm, i see a vital lack of any poty training in childhood. After all what else have Indians, nay, hindus like you have to relieve. I`m sure since mumbai`s now all choaked and stinking ... in fact why not try the urinals on Siachen Glacier?
#59 Posted by soysauce on December 19, 2003 11:15:07 am
#50
There, that`s the right spirit! Funny and pithy.
There, that`s the right spirit! Funny and pithy.
#58 Posted by jang on December 19, 2003 11:15:07 am
Non-Verbal Babble
During the outsourcing boom, a Texan visits Chennai and comes across a Tamil guy with a bull and a drum, who claims to tell fotune with help from the god blessed bull. Texan smells a fortune telling call center opportunity, and asks the Tamil guy to guess his age. The wily tamil asks for $100 ... texan agrees and to make the bet real claims that if the bull looses, he should be turned to steaks.
So the Tamil pleads to the bull in strange tounges and drum beats for a while and eventually the bull rather loudly passes gas and shakes its head (sideways) three times.
Proudly the Tamil declares ``Faarty Three Saar`` and extends his hand for the money.
So now even the non-english proficient are also getting into call center bussiness.
During the outsourcing boom, a Texan visits Chennai and comes across a Tamil guy with a bull and a drum, who claims to tell fotune with help from the god blessed bull. Texan smells a fortune telling call center opportunity, and asks the Tamil guy to guess his age. The wily tamil asks for $100 ... texan agrees and to make the bet real claims that if the bull looses, he should be turned to steaks.
So the Tamil pleads to the bull in strange tounges and drum beats for a while and eventually the bull rather loudly passes gas and shakes its head (sideways) three times.
Proudly the Tamil declares ``Faarty Three Saar`` and extends his hand for the money.
So now even the non-english proficient are also getting into call center bussiness.
#57 Posted by trashman on December 19, 2003 9:28:36 am
#55 by PunjabiZulu on December 19, 2003 9:01am PT
trashman
Get over it man.
PunjabyZulu
Have you? If so, then so have I. Peace.
trashman
Get over it man.
PunjabyZulu
Have you? If so, then so have I. Peace.
#56 Posted by CoolHandLuke on December 19, 2003 9:01:23 am
Ref: #51
Good article but let me remind you that Dr. Zaidi and Paracha are pretty good friends and it was actually Zaidi who prompted Paracha to start mixing politics and music back in 1995.
So I wonder if you so much agree with Zaidi`s insights does that mean you really don`t mind NFP`s irreverent sense of the absurdities of relegion and modern economics?
Good article but let me remind you that Dr. Zaidi and Paracha are pretty good friends and it was actually Zaidi who prompted Paracha to start mixing politics and music back in 1995.
So I wonder if you so much agree with Zaidi`s insights does that mean you really don`t mind NFP`s irreverent sense of the absurdities of relegion and modern economics?
#55 Posted by tahmed32 on December 19, 2003 9:01:22 am
gujjubania #51 Glad to see you pop your head out of the hole you were hiding in along with Saddam. Thanks for taking the trouble to post that piece for the benefit of smug pakistanis like me, but really, there was no need. You shouldnt have. You are too kind. Lets make a deal:
forget politics. come up with one (JUST one, that is all i ask) good definition (genuinely funny) of a gujjubania and i promise to come up with three good definitions of pakistanis (smug, unsmug, or plain confused). hope that is not asking too much. show us you guys care actually capable of laughing at yourself like most normal people.
forget politics. come up with one (JUST one, that is all i ask) good definition (genuinely funny) of a gujjubania and i promise to come up with three good definitions of pakistanis (smug, unsmug, or plain confused). hope that is not asking too much. show us you guys care actually capable of laughing at yourself like most normal people.
#54 Posted by tahmed32 on December 19, 2003 9:01:22 am
Prashant aka gujjubania #51: I just read the zaidi article and also read the final part of your post. i am actually very pleased to read that article - i am already quite aware that india has started to progress very well so this article does not really tell me anythng new. what you will notice is that this is an article written in a prominent pakistani newspaper by a pakistani writer - this indicates that pakistanis are taking notice of this improved pace of progress in india. so i wish india all success - it is good of itself since it will improve the lot of the average indian, and it is indirectly good for pakistan in a number of ways.
so everybody is raazi, kya karay ga qazi (you understand civilized languages like urdu in south india, dont you?).
(for the humorless indian warriors on this board - this last sentence was a joke btw)
so everybody is raazi, kya karay ga qazi (you understand civilized languages like urdu in south india, dont you?).
(for the humorless indian warriors on this board - this last sentence was a joke btw)
#52 Posted by Urstruly on December 19, 2003 7:13:15 am
alright, alright thats enough. You have proven that you hindu people have sense of humor and you are jockers. Now stop it. you are killing me. My ribcage has started hurting.
rsaxena
its not ``hmmmm``, its ``phhhhhrrrrrr``. And you did not say ``pardon me``; where are your manners.
rsaxena
its not ``hmmmm``, its ``phhhhhrrrrrr``. And you did not say ``pardon me``; where are your manners.
#51 Posted by rsridhar on December 19, 2003 6:12:15 am
re:#23 by nvp2003
``Now if you would excuse me too .... BHARAT ..... LOL!! No offence, ...``
I agree. Some of us lack a sense of humor and read too much into the statements.
Now, if you would excuse me, i have to go to ``Pakistan`` to relieve myself. I have been holding it for too long.
Sridhar
``Now if you would excuse me too .... BHARAT ..... LOL!! No offence, ...``
I agree. Some of us lack a sense of humor and read too much into the statements.
Now, if you would excuse me, i have to go to ``Pakistan`` to relieve myself. I have been holding it for too long.
Sridhar
#50 Posted by gujjubania on December 19, 2003 6:12:15 am
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#49 Posted by moulabux on December 19, 2003 6:12:14 am
Ambrose Beirce is on an altogether different plain. This was humorous, too, but at times, banally predicatable.
Religion:
The impetus that allows a person to kill with conviction and without remorse.
Cheers.
Religion:
The impetus that allows a person to kill with conviction and without remorse.
Cheers.
#48 Posted by trashman on December 19, 2003 6:12:14 am
Ref:#44
PunjabyZulu
You conveniently left out the meaning of the word
`Homophobic` from the dictionary. Read it and tell me why it
reminds me of someone who thought I sounded `gay.` Mainly YOU! Jaag Punjaby, jaag.
PunjabyZulu
You conveniently left out the meaning of the word
`Homophobic` from the dictionary. Read it and tell me why it
reminds me of someone who thought I sounded `gay.` Mainly YOU! Jaag Punjaby, jaag.
#46 Posted by AlephNull on December 18, 2003 4:49:24 pm
The gold standard for a curmudgeon’s lexicon was probably set a century ago by Ambrose Bierce in his Devil’s Dictionary; I doubt it has ever been surpassed. Samples:
Happiness, n: An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the misery of another.
Occident, n: That part of the world lying west (or east) of the Orient. It is largely inhabited by Christians, a powerful subtribe of the Hypocrites, whose principal industries are murder and cheating, which they are pleased to call “war” and “commerce.” These, also, are the principal industries of the Orient.
Happiness, n: An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the misery of another.
Occident, n: That part of the world lying west (or east) of the Orient. It is largely inhabited by Christians, a powerful subtribe of the Hypocrites, whose principal industries are murder and cheating, which they are pleased to call “war” and “commerce.” These, also, are the principal industries of the Orient.
#44 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 3:11:13 pm
stuka #29
Maybe...
trashman
Another one of his groupies? Oh brother...
btw this is your Masters definition of Homosexual from his list up above:
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Homosexual
Degenerate Homo sapiens.
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So dont chat about me and homophobia and then lay yourself open to me making you look so foolish.
(Now that really was funny)
;-)
#43 Posted by sadna on December 18, 2003 2:12:32 pm
stuka #36
I stand by what I said. I went and read the first 15 posts to see what the uproar was about. In any case, Pakistanis have more than evened the score in the remaining interacts.
I myself did not mind this article though.
I stand by what I said. I went and read the first 15 posts to see what the uproar was about. In any case, Pakistanis have more than evened the score in the remaining interacts.
I myself did not mind this article though.
#42 Posted by sadna on December 18, 2003 2:12:32 pm
PS
stuka :
IMO, in general Indians are NOT used to hearing Hindu-Muslim jokes. Our jokes are about Malayalis, Gujaratis, Gultis, Bongs, Biharis, Punjabis in other words ETHNICITIES.
And its usually SIMBLE leg-pulling banter not nasty biting satire.
For example a Malayali friend sent me this.
What is the tax on a Mallu`s income called?
IngumDax
Where did the Malayali study?
In the ko-liage.
Why did the Malayali not go to ko-liage today?
He is very bissi.
Why did the Malayali buy an air-ticket?
To go to Thuubai, zimbly to meet his ungle in Gelff.
Why do Malayalis go to the Gelff?
To yearn meney.
Why did the Malayali go to the concert in Rome?
Because he wanted to hear pope music.
What is Malayali management graduate called?
Yem Bee Yae.
What does a Malayali use to commute to office
everyday?
An Oto
And for cargo?
A Loree
Where does he pray?
Temble
Name the only part of the werld, where Malayalis dont
werk hard?
Kerala
Why is industrial productivity so low in Kerala?
Because 86% of the shift time is spent on lifting,
folding and re-tying the lungi
Why did Saddam Hussain attack Kuwait?
He had a Mallu baby-sitter, who always used to
say `KEEP QUWAIT` `KEEP QUWAIT`
stuka :
IMO, in general Indians are NOT used to hearing Hindu-Muslim jokes. Our jokes are about Malayalis, Gujaratis, Gultis, Bongs, Biharis, Punjabis in other words ETHNICITIES.
And its usually SIMBLE leg-pulling banter not nasty biting satire.
For example a Malayali friend sent me this.
What is the tax on a Mallu`s income called?
IngumDax
Where did the Malayali study?
In the ko-liage.
Why did the Malayali not go to ko-liage today?
He is very bissi.
Why did the Malayali buy an air-ticket?
To go to Thuubai, zimbly to meet his ungle in Gelff.
Why do Malayalis go to the Gelff?
To yearn meney.
Why did the Malayali go to the concert in Rome?
Because he wanted to hear pope music.
What is Malayali management graduate called?
Yem Bee Yae.
What does a Malayali use to commute to office
everyday?
An Oto
And for cargo?
A Loree
Where does he pray?
Temble
Name the only part of the werld, where Malayalis dont
werk hard?
Kerala
Why is industrial productivity so low in Kerala?
Because 86% of the shift time is spent on lifting,
folding and re-tying the lungi
Why did Saddam Hussain attack Kuwait?
He had a Mallu baby-sitter, who always used to
say `KEEP QUWAIT` `KEEP QUWAIT`
#41 Posted by kaurasach on December 18, 2003 2:12:32 pm
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#40 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 1:15:17 pm
Urstruly:
``It is good to see that finally hindus have loosened up their dhoties a bit. Fresh air. Isn`t it refreshing and liberating?``
How do you know? Did you get a whiff?? :)
``It is good to see that finally hindus have loosened up their dhoties a bit. Fresh air. Isn`t it refreshing and liberating?``
How do you know? Did you get a whiff?? :)
#39 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 1:14:29 pm
Soyasauce: Dude!!!!!! Now that is NOT funny. Gasp!! Choke!!
#38 Posted by soysauce on December 18, 2003 1:11:04 pm
#29 stuka
Hey, you`re starting to sound like, mmm, saminashah!
Re: Genocide with J, I think I have heard it somewhere before. This article is irreverent and humorous. Kudos!
Hey, you`re starting to sound like, mmm, saminashah!
Re: Genocide with J, I think I have heard it somewhere before. This article is irreverent and humorous. Kudos!
#37 Posted by Urstruly on December 18, 2003 12:34:39 pm
It is good to see that finally hindus have loosened up their dhoties a bit. Fresh air. Isn`t it refreshing and liberating? Why are you guys so anal retentive all the time. Let me assure you that we have no plans to take over Kashmir thru this website.......today.....and also probably not until next week either.. so relax. OK chanda?
#36 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 12:32:09 pm
Sadna:
From what I can see, the Pakistanis are not criticizing Indian jokes, they are criticizing the somewhat mean spirited sentiment behind the jokes. The fact remains that if an Indian chooses to pick ONE or Two refernces to India, and ignores the multiple ones to their own country and its issues, then really we have to look to ourselves to see why we are so thin skinned.
From what I can see, the Pakistanis are not criticizing Indian jokes, they are criticizing the somewhat mean spirited sentiment behind the jokes. The fact remains that if an Indian chooses to pick ONE or Two refernces to India, and ignores the multiple ones to their own country and its issues, then really we have to look to ourselves to see why we are so thin skinned.
#35 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 12:18:15 pm
riffat
Were you telling jokes? Please let me know...I cannot tell, the stuff about killing Christians in Lahore...its just that Indians are superfluous to requirements in that respect there.
Dont worry about NFP he can take it he is a comedian genius etc etc blah blah blah...
#34 Posted by sadna on December 18, 2003 12:18:15 pm
The Indian posters` additions to the dictionary definitions were in the same spirit as the article. Apparently the Pakistanis on this thread cannot take it like they give it and go yelling bad hindoo bad hindoo at the least excuse.
hindoo:
The universal Pakistani lameass excuse for everything, from moralizing to burping to moralizing about burping.
A lot of references to digestion in this list. I liked Cola though- having always wondered how flavored water could become such a potent symbol globally. How about Nike?
hindoo:
The universal Pakistani lameass excuse for everything, from moralizing to burping to moralizing about burping.
A lot of references to digestion in this list. I liked Cola though- having always wondered how flavored water could become such a potent symbol globally. How about Nike?
#33 Posted by trashman on December 18, 2003 12:18:15 pm
#25 by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 11:04am PT
``Actually, I was using the same cutting satirical and acidic style of writing on your Baba Paracha that he uses on everything else. I thought you guys would see the joke but evidently not. And please dont use the phrase ``this rocks`` about everything he writes; it sounds so gay. ``
Ah, so our Indian friend is a homophobic TOO! Anyways, nice to see you found something funny written by that `hateful` Paracha.
By the way, zulu you ROCK too. Only a little less humorously and way towards the right.
``Actually, I was using the same cutting satirical and acidic style of writing on your Baba Paracha that he uses on everything else. I thought you guys would see the joke but evidently not. And please dont use the phrase ``this rocks`` about everything he writes; it sounds so gay. ``
Ah, so our Indian friend is a homophobic TOO! Anyways, nice to see you found something funny written by that `hateful` Paracha.
By the way, zulu you ROCK too. Only a little less humorously and way towards the right.
#32 Posted by trashman on December 18, 2003 12:18:15 pm
#28 by dost-mittar
That`s exactly what Paracha is doing here, mittar saheb. Laughing at everything and as well as himself.
That`s exactly what Paracha is doing here, mittar saheb. Laughing at everything and as well as himself.
#31 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 12:17:35 pm
Riffat
``But you guys can always shift to lahore and kill a few chistian missioneries there and maybe burn a few Mughal mosques?``
You, sir, certainly seem to have a rather macabre sense of humor. I don`t think we need the Bajrang Dal to Lahore yet. Seems like some of your folks are doing a good enough job throwing grenades in churches.
I think I would have a hard time finding Mughal Mosques though. Seems the Saudi ones are more in the ascendant. Funny how Faisal Mosque was listed first in a guidebook to Pakistan that I was reading. ;)
``But you guys can always shift to lahore and kill a few chistian missioneries there and maybe burn a few Mughal mosques?``
You, sir, certainly seem to have a rather macabre sense of humor. I don`t think we need the Bajrang Dal to Lahore yet. Seems like some of your folks are doing a good enough job throwing grenades in churches.
I think I would have a hard time finding Mughal Mosques though. Seems the Saudi ones are more in the ascendant. Funny how Faisal Mosque was listed first in a guidebook to Pakistan that I was reading. ;)
#30 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 12:14:28 pm
Riffat:
``And Zulu, stop hating NFP so much. Your safron slip is showing. ``
Re my post below, are you the Judaized version of a Muslim, where every criticism of someone who happens to be a Muslim is considered a vote for the RSS? Where were you when this man with tHE ``RSS Slip`` was taking on a fundamentalist Hindu like Gujju Bania?
``And Zulu, stop hating NFP so much. Your safron slip is showing. ``
Re my post below, are you the Judaized version of a Muslim, where every criticism of someone who happens to be a Muslim is considered a vote for the RSS? Where were you when this man with tHE ``RSS Slip`` was taking on a fundamentalist Hindu like Gujju Bania?
#29 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 12:12:20 pm
PZ:
That, yes, is in bad taste. With the caveat that my definition of bad taste is influenced by living in the states. We tend to be sensitized to Jewish concerns but turn a blind eye when the same joke is made on generalizing millions of Muslims? Faisaluno had posted a remarkable example though I forget where.
You would agree that a a humorous glance can be made at the Jewish proclivity to claim exclusive victimhood? The idea is not to belittle the genocide or anti-semitism in general, but the current Jewish discourse that points to any and all criticism of Zionism as anti-semite behavior?
That, yes, is in bad taste. With the caveat that my definition of bad taste is influenced by living in the states. We tend to be sensitized to Jewish concerns but turn a blind eye when the same joke is made on generalizing millions of Muslims? Faisaluno had posted a remarkable example though I forget where.
You would agree that a a humorous glance can be made at the Jewish proclivity to claim exclusive victimhood? The idea is not to belittle the genocide or anti-semitism in general, but the current Jewish discourse that points to any and all criticism of Zionism as anti-semite behavior?
#28 Posted by dost_mittar on December 18, 2003 11:56:56 am
tahmed32:
True, we desis are humour-impaired, with the possible exception of the sikhs. BTW I define humour as the ability to laugh at oneself rather than to insult others.
True, we desis are humour-impaired, with the possible exception of the sikhs. BTW I define humour as the ability to laugh at oneself rather than to insult others.
#27 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 11:04:37 am
CoolHandLuke
Actually, I was using the same cutting satirical and acidic style of writing on your Baba Paracha that he uses on everything else. I thought you guys would see the joke but evidently not. So take a chill pill yourself and keep listening to Urdu cover versions of Meatloaf songs and discussing them with William Paracha Burroughs as though they are Radiohead. And please dont use the phrase ``this rocks`` about everything he writes; it sounds so gay.
#26 Posted by riffat on December 18, 2003 11:04:37 am
Sorry PunjabyZulu, mr. dost and co., you guys certianly don`t have the sense of humor of a ``seculer`` country. But you guys can always shift to lahore and kill a few chistian missioneries there and maybe burn a few Mughal mosques? And Zulu, stop hating NFP so much. Your safron slip is showing.
#25 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 11:04:37 am
Stuka
You are right I need to chill out. This is the funniest line out of the all:
..................................................................................................................................
Judaism
Genocide with a ‘J.’
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Oh how I laughed.
#24 Posted by stuka on December 18, 2003 10:51:12 am
``Bollywood
A social club advocating choreographed group dancing as a cure for poverty, crime, illiteracy, child labor, unemployment, exploitation, etc.
Example: “I love you” “I love you too” (Dance!); “Yeh shadee nahi ho sakti!! (Dance!); “My son committed suicide.” “Oh my God, that’s terrible.” (Dance!); “You like my new hair cut?” “Yes I do.” (Dance!); “Look at this poor child. He seems to be dying of hunger.” “Tich, tich, tich. Let’s get him a Pepsi.” “Great idea. “ (Dance!); “Why is everybody dancing?” “I have absolutely no idea.” “Why are YOU dancing?” “Because everybody else is.” “Hmmmmm … I see.” (Dance!). ``
He forgot to mention the ``Indian Rain Dance`` when the village has a drought and everyone dances...and it pours..LOL!!
This is actually my fave. :)
Some are only moderatly funny...
``Life
Cosmic imprisonment`` Blecch!!
Seriously, the Bammans need a sense of humor. Reminds me of the Cliche...India is an open society with a closed mind. Punjabi Zulu, chill dude.
A social club advocating choreographed group dancing as a cure for poverty, crime, illiteracy, child labor, unemployment, exploitation, etc.
Example: “I love you” “I love you too” (Dance!); “Yeh shadee nahi ho sakti!! (Dance!); “My son committed suicide.” “Oh my God, that’s terrible.” (Dance!); “You like my new hair cut?” “Yes I do.” (Dance!); “Look at this poor child. He seems to be dying of hunger.” “Tich, tich, tich. Let’s get him a Pepsi.” “Great idea. “ (Dance!); “Why is everybody dancing?” “I have absolutely no idea.” “Why are YOU dancing?” “Because everybody else is.” “Hmmmmm … I see.” (Dance!). ``
He forgot to mention the ``Indian Rain Dance`` when the village has a drought and everyone dances...and it pours..LOL!!
This is actually my fave. :)
Some are only moderatly funny...
``Life
Cosmic imprisonment`` Blecch!!
Seriously, the Bammans need a sense of humor. Reminds me of the Cliche...India is an open society with a closed mind. Punjabi Zulu, chill dude.
#23 Posted by nvp2003 on December 18, 2003 10:23:49 am
NFP rulze! tahmed32 was brilliant in his response to what is a gross overeaction on our Indian/hindu brothers` part. See the humour in it and the way, I think, Paracha is parodying his own nihilist style. It`s all in good humour and rather hilarious. jews, hindus, muslims, christians all get bashed but in a funny way. So where`s the insult? Now if you would excuse me too .... BHARAT ..... LOL!! No offence, really. See you in delhi :)
#22 Posted by CoolHandLuke on December 18, 2003 9:53:45 am
Oops, there go the CBMs. Take it easy PunjabyZulu. The Paracha clan is from Punjab too, you know. Now if you would excuse me .... B****T! ... ahhhh, that feels good.
NFP: This piece rocks. I`m sure our most middle-class BJP fundos here will fail to see the humor, so I guess you`ll have to wait for an Indian Marxist from Kolkata to tell them that it`s okay to laugh on oneself. Btw Zulu bhai, NFP has made far more fun of mullahs and islamic fanatics than their hindu counterparts. So stop complining and start enjoying.
NFP: This piece rocks. I`m sure our most middle-class BJP fundos here will fail to see the humor, so I guess you`ll have to wait for an Indian Marxist from Kolkata to tell them that it`s okay to laugh on oneself. Btw Zulu bhai, NFP has made far more fun of mullahs and islamic fanatics than their hindu counterparts. So stop complining and start enjoying.
#21 Posted by sac on December 18, 2003 9:53:45 am
The article is quite funny. All the humor-deficient neighbors from across the border even funnier. Where is stuka when you need him?
later
-sac
later
-sac
#20 Posted by Urstruly on December 18, 2003 9:15:13 am
Paracha Sahib,
This is an award winner. My compliments.
This is an award winner. My compliments.
#19 Posted by Urstruly on December 18, 2003 9:13:43 am
and when i say that hindus are indecent people, I am pounced upon. Proof is in the pudding....I mean proof is in the daal.....burp....excuse me. Phrrrrrrt pardon me.
#18 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 8:57:33 am
tahmed
I was not ridiculing Pakistanis. Read my post again sir. I was ridiculing a Pakistani. Mr Paracha. And Dost Mittar explained everything you need to answer your question.
regards
#17 Posted by tahmed32 on December 18, 2003 8:50:05 am
dost mittar: Agreed that no one likes to see his country or his people being ridiculed. But lets be fair: check the posts below, and the ones from pakistanis - temporal, saminasha, riffat - are all decent and appreciative. The ones from indians - including posters like jang and panjabi zulu whom one would consider to be of normal intelligence - are (with the notable exception of subroto who is ALWAYS decent AND funny), are all directed towards ridiculing pakistanis. And this reflects, as i have said before, my chowk experience with india-pakistan interactions: there is an asymmetry in terms of decent behavior on chowk.
I really wonder what kind of an environment these people were raised on in India. I can understand them hating pakistan (small brains on both sides toe the government line), but this routine trashing of the atmosphere with there humorless ridicule is disgusting, low class behavior.
I really wonder what kind of an environment these people were raised on in India. I can understand them hating pakistan (small brains on both sides toe the government line), but this routine trashing of the atmosphere with there humorless ridicule is disgusting, low class behavior.
#16 Posted by dost_mittar on December 18, 2003 8:30:14 am
Moderately funny, though I prefer humour that does not insult the ``other``.
tahmed32:
Maybe the Indians do not like their country compared to ``the burping sound made by right-wing Hindu patients of chronic indigestion`` any more than Pakistanis like their country being called ``Pukistan``.
tahmed32:
Maybe the Indians do not like their country compared to ``the burping sound made by right-wing Hindu patients of chronic indigestion`` any more than Pakistanis like their country being called ``Pukistan``.
#15 Posted by PunjabiZulu on December 18, 2003 7:56:23 am
Nadeem F. Paracha:
Clueless Pakistani Marxist and character from the Urdu movie remake of This is Spinal Tap. Likes to cuss Jews and Hindus but doesnt have the balls to lay into Islam to the same degree. Thinks that taking drugs and copying junkie writers like William Burroughs is clever and good. But junkie writers can only write JUNK.
#14 Posted by subroto on December 18, 2003 7:56:05 am
Ho hum so whats new? Another article by NFP containing, as usual, Hindu bashing interspersed with Muslim bashing. Unfortunately there are 26 alphabets too many for this piece.
#13 Posted by PaagalInsaan on December 18, 2003 7:56:05 am
#4 by sri on December 17, 2003
- Islam -
Crazy idiots driving planes in to peoples workplaces.
* r o f l
#12 Posted by trashman on December 18, 2003 7:56:05 am
ROARRRRRR!!!Can`t stop laughing. Certainly NFP`s best punch after the equally hilarious Cable-Unable. I ask you this again, what are you on, dude??
#11 Posted by riffat on December 18, 2003 7:56:05 am
Typical NFP, anti-everything and one hell of a read.
#10 Posted by tahmed32 on December 18, 2003 7:56:05 am
very funny article.
the responses from these indian posters below with the usual clamoring about tnt and insults to pakistan are pathetic though. i guess such responses would be expected from a certified insane hindutva like jay, but are surprising coming even from the likes of ballukhan and sri from whom one would have expected a little better. Do you people really feel that badly stood up half a century after partition with most of you living half way across the world from the subcontinent) that you can only think of TNT? that is history as far as pakistanis are concerned, and for them india is simply a different country no more and no less.
there is not one post written by a pakistani on chowk that concerns itself with tnt, but indian posts are a dime a dozen. pakistan is here to stay. get used to the idea you morons.
and this is a genuinely funny article. try to learn about genuine humor from Paracha, and forget your hate-filled view of the world for a change.
the responses from these indian posters below with the usual clamoring about tnt and insults to pakistan are pathetic though. i guess such responses would be expected from a certified insane hindutva like jay, but are surprising coming even from the likes of ballukhan and sri from whom one would have expected a little better. Do you people really feel that badly stood up half a century after partition with most of you living half way across the world from the subcontinent) that you can only think of TNT? that is history as far as pakistanis are concerned, and for them india is simply a different country no more and no less.
there is not one post written by a pakistani on chowk that concerns itself with tnt, but indian posts are a dime a dozen. pakistan is here to stay. get used to the idea you morons.
and this is a genuinely funny article. try to learn about genuine humor from Paracha, and forget your hate-filled view of the world for a change.
#9 Posted by aquaris on December 18, 2003 7:56:04 am
After K its all Love for KingKong....
from KingKong to Mullahs....Taleban..etc etc...all KingKong..
#7 Posted by jay on December 18, 2003 1:57:04 am
Story time,
Two pak families immigrated to australia and agreed to meet every year to check how much aussie they have become.
After one year they met at a rugby match, one said,
``My son plays rugby, I had a few pork and beef pies, and I am going to get a beer``,
The other responded,
``you ##%ck of towel head``.
Two pak families immigrated to australia and agreed to meet every year to check how much aussie they have become.
After one year they met at a rugby match, one said,
``My son plays rugby, I had a few pork and beef pies, and I am going to get a beer``,
The other responded,
``you ##%ck of towel head``.
#6 Posted by AboutMoods on December 18, 2003 1:47:44 am
You should stick with music reviews dude, leave Politics and Philosophy for the not so self absorbed.
#5 Posted by ballukhan on December 17, 2003 10:30:20 pm
Paaaaakistan-
The farting sound made by the TNT-s after announcing themselves on the Chowk!
The farting sound made by the TNT-s after announcing themselves on the Chowk!
#4 Posted by syfr on December 17, 2003 4:34:11 pm
psycho it might not be, but babble it sure is:D
Bollywood`s nice...
since thats my pet peeve,
and so is consumerism...
altho, instead of religion perhaps it should have been addiction/nasha...
which reminds me...
nothing on addiction?
Bollywood`s nice...
since thats my pet peeve,
and so is consumerism...
altho, instead of religion perhaps it should have been addiction/nasha...
which reminds me...
nothing on addiction?
#3 Posted by sri on December 17, 2003 4:34:11 pm
- Islam -
Crazy idiots driving planes in to peoples workplaces.
- Liberals -
Commie freaks dwelling in a free enterprise system and badmouthing free enterprise system
- Righteous losers -
Stupid losers who think of America only as a country of drunks, nightclubs, single parents but not as a place where flying and light bulbs are invented and as a place where Microsofts, Ciscos, GEs, Fords are born.
Crazy idiots driving planes in to peoples workplaces.
- Liberals -
Commie freaks dwelling in a free enterprise system and badmouthing free enterprise system
- Righteous losers -
Stupid losers who think of America only as a country of drunks, nightclubs, single parents but not as a place where flying and light bulbs are invented and as a place where Microsofts, Ciscos, GEs, Fords are born.
#2 Posted by temporal on December 17, 2003 2:46:05 pm
jolly good mate!
this i can ejnoy without aids, lubricants (halal or forbidden), smokes (alas only forbidden ones)...or other stimulii...:)
this i can ejnoy without aids, lubricants (halal or forbidden), smokes (alas only forbidden ones)...or other stimulii...:)
#1 Posted by jang on December 17, 2003 1:40:52 pm
Bakistan
What pakistanis call their when attempting to sound Arabic.
Southeshia
Term used by the few leftist intellecutals still around, which no one understands. But then no one understands rest of the stuff either.
What pakistanis call their when attempting to sound Arabic.
Southeshia
Term used by the few leftist intellecutals still around, which no one understands. But then no one understands rest of the stuff either.
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