What is the Matrix?

Azure:

Of course preachiness stinks. From my understanding of mystics- who seemingly have broken from the matrix and have come back into it, the reason for coming back is the challenge to help others see a different perspective with the understanding that each person thinks and perceives according to their own individual capacities.

The tales of Mulla Nasirudin are meant to assist in breaking down the normal patterns of thought and perception imposed on us. Some say the Sufis could easily have preached rather than have hidden messages in the comical character and tales of Nasiruddin.

One cannot call Sultan Bahu or Mian Muhammad Bux`s poetry as preachiness. Those are words that are meant to show `the other side` but in a form better recognized by the average joe but with the knowledge that it won`t necessarily be understood by all- because as you point out

``So it is, in a way, foolish to tell everyone about something which is totally incomprehensible to the ordinary mind which never had any exposure to a different reality.``

Among others, the Prophet is seen as a person who came back after breaking through. :)

ironman:

That too depends upon initial conditioning, the things the child learns at school, his parent`s stress on religion. Less exposure to knowledge, satisfaction with what is and not wanting more answers, and a feeling of superiority through strength of inner faith are some of the factors that make a person adamant and unshakable in his beliefs. Inquisitive and curious people usually venture into the `forbidden` and play with their own beliefs to find answers that have bothered them for sometime but have been looking for the tools to solve the problems, tools which they eventually find through sufficient learning. The other type of people who are not of the questioning type, don`t usually take interest in research and extraneous cerebration over things which are apparently beyond their reach and which according to them are irrelevant. So I think the trait varies in individuals.


rozaiba:

Hmm... What did the Prophet break through?

Azure #26,

Again a good post from you.

``That too depends upon initial conditioning, the things the child learns at school, his parent`s stress on religion. Less exposure to knowledge, satisfaction with what is and not wanting more answers, and a feeling of superiority through strength of inner faith are some of the factors that make a person adamant and unshakable in his beliefs.Inquisitive and curious people usually venture into the `forbidden` and play with their own beliefs to find answers that have bothered them for sometime but have been looking for the tools to solve the problems, tools which they eventually find through sufficient learning. The other type of people who are not of the questioning type, don`t usually take interest in research and extraneous cerebration over things which are apparently beyond their reach and which according to them are irrelevant. So I think the trait varies in individuals.``


So we agree that people having `strength of inner faith` are the ones who are neither inquisitive nor curious.

These are the most `matrixed` people...who are not aware of their conditioning.

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What we see is that this early childhood conditioning (as you correctly describe it), becomes a part of our psyche, our identity...it does not remain an abstract piece of knowledge.

In other words hinduism becomes a part of ME...like my arms and legs. I can no longer detach it as I can my body parts from me.

A joke about flying monkeys becomes a `personal` affront.

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Going deeper...

Can `deep thinking` free me from the matrix (of my conditioning) ?

Is `thought` the tool ?

`` The Matrix gives you a choice though, to be the devils advocate or to play good guy. But whatever your choice might be, you`re still a prisoner of the Matrix, someone who has no control over himself and is actions. ``



.........God has created the whole universe...and he gave choice to mankind....either to follow the path of goodness....or evil......( Every religion/every school of thought says the same thing...) .....


so question..? `` Is God ``the Matrix`` or Matrix `TheGod`` or ....some one imagination inspired by watching the movie`s trilogy `` The Matrix ``......


....still trying to Find `` The One ``.....


...........It is Said in the Holy Books .....`` I am so near to you ....you cannot imagine how near I am...``

...so again `Question`` Do we Live in ` GOD``...


.....Scientist have Identified four Actual forces ......and Dr Abdus Salam got Noble Prize when he sort of Proved....the two of them are actually One...
.... a bit closer to the Unified Theory ......

......So Again Quesiton .......Are we trying to Identify God as a Physical manifestion....or at least as a understandable concept in terms of Force.....ie ..Is God .....`` The Force ..``


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......any brainstroming....!!!!!

Azure:

Like any revolutionary personality, he broke through the tradional ways of thoughts and processes and brought forth an idea that was ahead of its time.

He helped form a new perception of looking at the world. That is what other Sufis have encouraged to do as well.

ironman:

Going deeper...

Can `deep thinking` free me from the matrix (of my conditioning) ?

Is `thought` the tool ?

I think it depends on how strongly you believe in your new concept of reality.

Don`t THINK you are, KNOW you are! :-]

Farhan:

Is there a purpose of human existence? (outside how it is defined by relegion, that is)

Curious,

SoulKeeper

It`s elementary my dear SoulKeeper! I won`t go into the details of the creation of the Universe because honestly speaking from a sceintific point of view I`m not quite erudite in this subject. But what I do know and believe in is that we are human beings; a very superior ape with a powerful brain. We gave life to the lifeless, we used Nature, manipulated it and harnessed its powers. We know our limits. With all of these technological advancements we are also making ourselves vulnerable to the basic emotion of Fear. The more we learn the more complicated it gets, and it is this complication that is a challenge for some and a hindrance for others. To overcome it we need a resolute determination and sufficient knowledge to crack every code, to solve every problem. Our purpose is to exist on this planet, because we are here. And we are existing in a very, very extraordinary manner... IF you think of us as just a race of extremely intelligent apes! :-)

What do you think?

- M.F

We are being prepared for a Next Stage......



.....and believe me or Not As it does not matters..


...buts its from my personal experience.....

Farhan,

Interesting.

This article reminded me of a line from the movie The Matrix: ``Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that was seemed real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?``

In secular, not religious, terms, we are all like slaughtered chickens running around blindly and having no sense of purpose or even destiny.

I hope that someday something within man will awaken him to himself, and that one day this man will find his destiny, and who he is. And the day when man discovers himself, he will also discover as a necessary corrollary what his destiny is.

Take care.

Collectively talking, a good article. Using Matrix in one`s own way
Writer`s words
``directed to making``
Fourth form of verb after ``to``, Is it allowed in English?
Why only my error come to the eyes.