Mohammad Gill January 29, 2004
#8 Posted by Inquirer on January 30, 2004 11:41:55 am
#7, plancherel:
****Inquirer, Care to expand a little on the nonsense about quasi-interacting equilibria? ****
If you need information you need to be polite.
****Time is measured using a real variable, is a concrete physical quantity which mixed up with spatial directions thanks to special relativity. Many experiments have confirmed special relativity to a many decimal places. ****
Have you tried to contrast time and pressure as I indicated? Have you studied relativity? Regurgitating wont help.
****Your statement ``objective reality in terms of interacting equilibria, each one of which is inherently unstable`` may confuse a lay person into believing that you know something but is essentially a meaningless collection of words.****
If you are convinced, then why do you want expansion?
****Inquirer, Care to expand a little on the nonsense about quasi-interacting equilibria? ****
If you need information you need to be polite.
****Time is measured using a real variable, is a concrete physical quantity which mixed up with spatial directions thanks to special relativity. Many experiments have confirmed special relativity to a many decimal places. ****
Have you tried to contrast time and pressure as I indicated? Have you studied relativity? Regurgitating wont help.
****Your statement ``objective reality in terms of interacting equilibria, each one of which is inherently unstable`` may confuse a lay person into believing that you know something but is essentially a meaningless collection of words.****
If you are convinced, then why do you want expansion?
#7 Posted by plancherel on January 30, 2004 10:33:58 am
Inquirer, Care to expand a little on the nonsense about quasi-interacting equilibria?
Time is measured using a real variable, is a concrete physical quantity which mixed up with spatial directions thanks to special relativity. Many experiments have confirmed special relativity to a many decimal places.
Your statement ``objective reality in terms of interacting equilibria, each one of which is inherently unstable`` may confuse a lay person into believing that you know something but is essentially a meaningless collection of words.
Time is measured using a real variable, is a concrete physical quantity which mixed up with spatial directions thanks to special relativity. Many experiments have confirmed special relativity to a many decimal places.
Your statement ``objective reality in terms of interacting equilibria, each one of which is inherently unstable`` may confuse a lay person into believing that you know something but is essentially a meaningless collection of words.
#6 Posted by impressions on January 30, 2004 9:38:24 am
Yaar Momammad bhai this was very long winded! We both fell asleep but then Right started to snore which woke me up… anywhoslebees...
Einstein was asked the question, “What was there before the big bang and what sudden event caused the singularity to be disrupted to put time in forward motion?” He replied, “God snapped his fingers”. This statement of course threw into a tizzy all sorts of theologicians who started yelling from the rooftops that the world’s greatest scientist had acknowledged the existence of god. Years later Einstein would explain that his tongue in cheek comment was intended to simply mean that he did not have an answer to that question. Just as you say “God knows”, when you really mean “I don’t know”.
The answers to the questions that surround us that are inadequately explained by existing science will always be ascribed to some higher being. When man did not know jack squat every thing in our existence including the winds, the tides, the sun and the moon were ascribed to some higher power. Thousands of years ago even the wisest man on the planet thought that the earth was the center of the universe. Today a Kindergartener knows the earth’s place in the solar system.
Of course there will always be the unexplained and the unfathomable. We will never be able to perceive and articulate four mutually perpendicular axes let alone eleven. We will never be able to fully comprehend infinity. We will never be able to arrive at a static morality and we will never be able to grapple with the workings of probability. So god will be around forever. As a necessary crutch.
Now I must put forth a Dennis Miller disclaimer and say that this is just my opinion and I could be wrong. My despicable twin Right seems to disagree with me on these issues like most others. He’s a creationist, thinks male on male sex is an abomination (he doesn’t mind girl on girl action), and believes in afterlife. And none of this deters him from being an alcoholic, a porn addict and a compulsive masturbater!
Regards,
Left.
Einstein was asked the question, “What was there before the big bang and what sudden event caused the singularity to be disrupted to put time in forward motion?” He replied, “God snapped his fingers”. This statement of course threw into a tizzy all sorts of theologicians who started yelling from the rooftops that the world’s greatest scientist had acknowledged the existence of god. Years later Einstein would explain that his tongue in cheek comment was intended to simply mean that he did not have an answer to that question. Just as you say “God knows”, when you really mean “I don’t know”.
The answers to the questions that surround us that are inadequately explained by existing science will always be ascribed to some higher being. When man did not know jack squat every thing in our existence including the winds, the tides, the sun and the moon were ascribed to some higher power. Thousands of years ago even the wisest man on the planet thought that the earth was the center of the universe. Today a Kindergartener knows the earth’s place in the solar system.
Of course there will always be the unexplained and the unfathomable. We will never be able to perceive and articulate four mutually perpendicular axes let alone eleven. We will never be able to fully comprehend infinity. We will never be able to arrive at a static morality and we will never be able to grapple with the workings of probability. So god will be around forever. As a necessary crutch.
Now I must put forth a Dennis Miller disclaimer and say that this is just my opinion and I could be wrong. My despicable twin Right seems to disagree with me on these issues like most others. He’s a creationist, thinks male on male sex is an abomination (he doesn’t mind girl on girl action), and believes in afterlife. And none of this deters him from being an alcoholic, a porn addict and a compulsive masturbater!
Regards,
Left.
#5 Posted by Inquirer on January 30, 2004 8:24:40 am
``What was there before the big bang?``
The question is meaningless and deserves to be treated as such. Thus, no need for the above discussion!
The fundamental error in the whole shabang is the conception of time as a real variable.
There is no reality in time, i.e., time does not correspond to any thing physical. Time is a mental construct, unlike pressure.
Time is merely a shortcut for description of physical phenomena. It is CONVENIENT to use the term but most people, including physicists (!), start taking the chimera for reality.
There is an intimate connection between time and energy but that is merely formal not substantive.
We need to learn to describe the objective reality in terms of interacting equilibria, each one of which is inherently unstable. Thus, the whole universe is relly an interplay between quasi-equilibria.
The question is meaningless and deserves to be treated as such. Thus, no need for the above discussion!
The fundamental error in the whole shabang is the conception of time as a real variable.
There is no reality in time, i.e., time does not correspond to any thing physical. Time is a mental construct, unlike pressure.
Time is merely a shortcut for description of physical phenomena. It is CONVENIENT to use the term but most people, including physicists (!), start taking the chimera for reality.
There is an intimate connection between time and energy but that is merely formal not substantive.
We need to learn to describe the objective reality in terms of interacting equilibria, each one of which is inherently unstable. Thus, the whole universe is relly an interplay between quasi-equilibria.
#4 Posted by UmerMurtaza on January 30, 2004 8:24:40 am
Okay,
How about just another universe? The impulse-wave symbol is so prevalent throughout the universe, be it the 5 year economical cycles to the rise and fall of civilsations to the waves in a pond to the waves of eletromagnetic radiation, to the rise and fall of animal species...
Umer M.
How about just another universe? The impulse-wave symbol is so prevalent throughout the universe, be it the 5 year economical cycles to the rise and fall of civilsations to the waves in a pond to the waves of eletromagnetic radiation, to the rise and fall of animal species...
Umer M.
#3 Posted by soundmeister on January 30, 2004 7:03:12 am
Q: What Was There Before The Big Bang?
A: A couple of big djinns probably
hehe
Dr. Hoodboy care to help Dr. Gill?
A: A couple of big djinns probably
hehe
Dr. Hoodboy care to help Dr. Gill?
#2 Posted by UmerMurtaza on January 30, 2004 7:03:02 am
Mr Gill,
You ask, `What Was There Before the Big Bang.`
Answer. A Patel Corner shop.
Umer M.
You ask, `What Was There Before the Big Bang.`
Answer. A Patel Corner shop.
Umer M.
#1 Posted by dullabhatti on January 29, 2004 10:50:56 pm
Gill sahib, chhaddo parey..eh kehRay chakkar ch paye ge je? article te article..... retirement da maza maano baadshao... khao peeyO aish karo..dil par kisay da dukhayeO na....
baaki jo houooo........howeyyyyy.:-)
baaki jo houooo........howeyyyyy.:-)
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