Letter to an American Muslim

Hey Truly! Are you one of those eight or is this a threat? Either way, get ready to swim to Gitmo.


103 by ballukhan On #102 by Romair on January 28, 2004 10:12pm PT.

Khan shaib, this is called a “Dark Comedy” by a deranged Army man but then…. Is there an Army man who is not deranged and does not have delusions.

Oh! I remember there is an exception to this: The Guards at Gitmo. Here is what I have heard thru the grapevine…

Listen up! Urstruly and HisExcellency since you will be headed that way soon.

You recall you and your Jehadi buddies in 1980s would capture white Russian boys and convert them to Islam all night long by forming queues to recite Arab verses.
Now the white American boys are having multiple orgasms with jehadi at Gitmo and they call it “The revenge of the White man”
Multiple Orgasms!! Days in and days out… days in and days out….
In between time, you know what jehadis are doing in Gitmo??? They are writing “A letter to Muslims” Days in and Days out...

Multiple Orgasms, “A letter to Muslims” Days in and days out… days in and days out….

PS. Would you need an ACLU lawyer to reapeat the mantra for you ``One guy at a time``...

romair mian, whiteness is a state of mind .................

............. pat buchanan is just a little bit off the mark - the only people who are not ``white`` are the muslims ............ ``whiteness`` has nothing to do with pigmentation, it is a state of mind.......

............within a generation the chinese-american is as white as his swedish neighbor - his kids eat hot dogs, play in the orchestra, take up competive tennis and ice skating, proudly wear string bikinis with the stars and strips, sip fine merlot, change their first name to michael and michele, adopt the protestant work ethic and spice it up confucian values............ the only thing that distinguishes them from americans without pigment is their amazing ability with chopsticks ...........

.......... the same is true, to a lesser extent, with the horrible hindoos........ they might be from the same stock as the pathetic pakis but they too have the ability to turn white ............. unlike the ummah which wants to drag the rest of the world down to their level, they are happy to drop their dhotis, wipe off that silly red dot from their forehead and put on mismatched polyester blouses and skirts so that they can pass off as white .......... the first generation is laughably cartoonish, but the next generation is quite comfortably white under their dark skin ..............

.................. the muslim, on the other hand, is trapped inside the darkness of his soul, even though his skin might be white ...........................

urstruly #104 You either smoke some special kind of weed when you come up with your ``Urstrulisms``, or else you dont need such a weed, or else you can see reality normal people but find it convenient to lie. Which one is it?

As for your Urstrulisms:

Urstrulism Number 1: Guantanamo is a concentration camp:

No, it isnt. Do I have to waste my time explaining this to you? This term is of course from a WWII german concentration camps, where the idea was that you check in but dont check out. You dont have red cross observers visiting. virtually all the inmates are their for purposes of genocide, and as such tens of thousands are herded in for no crime other than being born. The scum in camp gitty went to afghanistan looking to create in the name of their perverted and ignorant view of islam. They are lucky they were merely got sent to a nice island in the carribean rather than getting what they richly deserve - a noose around the neck.

Now tell me why it would be incorrect to say that you are either lying or else smoking pot when you come up with this Urstrulism.

Urstrulism #2: 6 of those named as being the 9/11 hijackers are alive and kicking.

Even the saudi mullahs (the same ones who look the other way as hundreds of immigrants have had their heads chopped off in public every friday on account of ``saudi justice``) who came up with this one have stopped saying that. You are among the die-hard ones I guess.
If you ever come down to earth (unless you are already down to earth and are merely lying) you will realize that names are not unique to individuals. For every Abdul that went to hell after banging planeloads of people against office buildings full of people that day,there are millions of Abduls roaming the arab street. Those hijackers were named based on airline passenger lists and cross-checked with other evidence. There cant be a weed strong enough for you to come up with this Urstrulism. So, you must be lying even though you know the facts.

HE #98 I see you have come up with Urstrulism #3 - namely that mullahs ``maulana sami-ul-haq, fazlur rehaman and qazi hussain`` were responsible for saving pakistan from the soviets and for the downfall of the soviet empire.

I guess you share the same weed with Urstruly. Let me waste time trying to throw the cold water of reality on your face as well: The leading figure in the anti-soviet struggle was Ahmed Shah Massoud - and Massoud was a bitter enemy of the Taliban (and indeed was murdered by two arab suicide bombers a day before 9/11). these various mullahs were best friends of the Taliban - with mullah fazlur rehman taking the lead in anti-US demonstrations after 9/11 when the US demanded that Taliban hand over bin laden.

The anti-US demonstrations by these mullahs has not been cost free to Pakistan. It has no doubt been a major factor in making the US administration consider pakistanis to be possible security threats and thus led to the thousands of illegal pakistani immigrants leaving the US. Thousands of young pakistanis seeking to come to US (like you and urstruly, I may add) have been denied the visa. You can blame the US for this, but the fact is that the US has done this because of the perception created by the irresponsible demonstrations and statements of these mullahs that pakistanis are a security threat.

So: you and urstruly live happily in the US while bad mouthing it at every opportunity (to the extent of cooking up Urstrulisms aka lies). Qazi Hussein Ahmed has his son sitting comfortably in the US with a valid visa. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of pakistanis who would have made a life for themselves (and for their families) in the US are deprived of this opportunities.

Who pays for Urstrulisms? not the US, not Urstruly. Only the young pakistanis whose future has been ruined because of the deceiptful behavior of the mullahs and their supporters like you.

#101 by hossp

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Oh Boy! Finally one comes out of the caves. How long its gonna take FBI to trace the IP address? This guy will soon be water skiing in Gitmo…..
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Apparently you are more confused about Al-Qaeda, Jihad and the entire 9/11 episode than the FBI. The present war is against terrorists belonging to Al-Qaeda and their Taliban protectors. These organizations didn`t exist before 1991 and 1994 respectively. All other resistance movements that existed before this period, or in other parts of the world (e.g. Kashmir) are neither terrorist movements... nor are their participants being arrested under the PATRIOT act. If the FBI started arresting people for extoling Jihad, they would first have to start with George Shultz and James Baker (Secretaries of State during Reagan administration) as well as the Directors of CIA and Pentagon who actually provided weapons to the Afghan Mujahideen.

Under specific conditions, Jihad is ordained for all Muslims as a genuine form of resistance. Dozens of books have already been written by American authors in which they extol the Jihadi spirit of Mujahideen for driving the Soviets out of Afghanistan. I seriously doubt that the FBI is going to arrest Qazi Hussain Ahmad, Fazlur Rehman or a small fry like myself for simply quoting those truths.

You need to clear you head first before you call others the ``friends of the thugs of Tora Bora``.

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Mr. Minai, this may be of interest to you. There`s a local guy who gets invited on talk shows as a muslim representative. He is originally from pakistan and he has declared himself unambiguosly an american who wants to see muslims presented in a positive light. He gets asked all sorts of questions some from Xtian religious nuts who make it a point to mention that the Xtian god is not the same as the god of muslims. What is interesting is that he is really uncompromising as far as his religion is concerned and yet the discussions almost never veer into american versus anti-american. He`s probably the kind of activist you have in mind. Maybe hamidm should consider the talk show circuit...

#104 Urstruly

Hey Truly! Are you one of those eight or is this a threat? Either way, get ready to swim to Gitmo.


#103 by ballukhan On #102 by Romair on January 28, 2004 10:12pm PT.

Khan shaib, this is called a “Dark Comedy” by a deranged Army man but then…. Is there an Army man who is not deranged and does not have delusions?????

Ali Minai: Did you write a chapter in Michael Wolfe`s book....

hossp & hamidm

With 8 out of 19 alleged hijackers still alive and kicking and with US government`s suspicious coverup with ``indifference`` to the matter, I highly doubt the veracity of what you are saying. Well, what you say makes good propaganda lines but it betrays the minimum standards of fairness and justice.

#102 by Romair on January 28, 2004 10:12pm PT
I think this analyses can only come from a dangerous mind- very much in the mould of Islamic Jehadi General- not a regular Jehadi soldier- but a Jehadi General at par with the likes of Osama Bin Laden- These guys plan for apolyptic wars between the faithfuls and the jews, pure ones and apostates.
Very dangerous guy- I hope he does not infiltrate into the decision making circles of any society.

HisExcellency #78: I am currently reading a book by Pat Buchanan, which highlights the fact that the European stock of the world is about to be taken over by Asians, Chinese, Africans and Hispanics, due to the very low birth rate of the European stock.

He uses the word, ``European stock,`` and tends to put all South Asians in the same bucket, i.e. people who need to be kept out of European nations. So our Indian friends (and non-Abduls) should keep in mind that in Buchanan`s books, they are all Abduls, even if they aren`t in Pipes` books.

The guy does have a point, though. The White guys, within 50 to 100 years are going to have their countries run over by brown and yellow and black immigrants, and will eventually become minorities, in their own countries. I think Canada will be the first such country (though Canadians seem quite ok with it). The White nations` (including Russia and Japan) own population is decreasing greatly and they need immigrants to pay for their elderlies health care. Statistically, the White man is dead, assuming the non-Whites keep up with their high birth rates. In fact, the only European country whose population is increasing is Muslim Albania.

The same statistics apply to Israel.

Keeping that in mind, I don`t think Israel is as secure as it looks. And I think most Israelis and Jews outside Israel, realize that. And are thus in two minds about what to do, i.e. peace or violence. In fact, I doubt Israel will be around in the same manner as we see it right now. Not only do I doubt it, but Pat Buchanan and Richard Nixon doubt it also. In his book, Buchanan says that Nixon told him, that in the long run, Israel has had it.

It is a simple question of demographics. Consider the following, and you may get a better idea of why the Israelis are so insecure:

In my opinon, the biggest mistake made by the Jews was to demand a state, smack in the middle of an area where they would have to displace so many people, that all the surrounding countries would become hostile to them. I really don`t think, anyone, including Jews, is so attached to their religious lands as to physically want to live there. I like Mecca and Medina and Al-Aqsa, but I have no interest in living there. I am happy to have visited them, now and then. I think most Jews would feel the same about Jerusalem. Much like most Christians feel about Bethlehem.

Israel could, thus, have come into existence anywhere. Uganda may have been a suggestion also, at that time. I think the best place for Israel`s long term success would have been either in North America or in Europe. An Israel in, say Nova Scotia, or North Dokata, would be secure, prosperous, with a long future, and surrounded by friendly folks. And no one would have needed to have been removed from their lands, for the creation of such an Israel. And I think Palestinians would have been more than happy to allow the Israelis to visit their holy lands, anytime they wanted to .

And we wouldn`t have had this whole Clash of Civilisations scenario. And neither Iraq nor the WTC would have been bombed.

There are around 4.2 million Jews in Israel. Amongst these, according to my Christian Palestinian friend, a majority are actually not European Jews, but Arab Jews. Israel has actually had its version of race riots between Black Jews and White Jews. Around 14% of Israel`s own population is Palestinian Arabs. Along with this, 60% of Jordan is Palestinians. And there are around 3 to 4 million ??? Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank.

While, Israel is the only, ``European stock`` country whose population is growing, however that of the Palestinians is growing phenomenally. And soon the Palestinians in Israel itself, will reach a high number. And those surrounding it Gaza, West Bank etc. will be even higher. This is probably why Israel doesn`t just annex West Bank and Gaza.

So within a generation or two, Israel will drown in Palestinians. Very young Palestinians, while much of Israel`s population will be old.

In addition, in a book titled, ``The Vanishing American Jew,`` Allen Dershowitz points out that due to intermarriages with Christians, the number of Jews in the USA will decrease from its current figure of around 5 million?, in 75 years, to some ridiculously low figure (I think it was 10,000).

Compared to this, Muslims in USA and everywhere else are breeding like rabbits. Muslims now equal or outnumber Jews in USA. And outnumber Jews in Europe. For the first time in history, in 2000, there are more Muslims in the world than Christians (according to Buchanan). Even if these Muslims remain in the 3rd world (which they won`t forever), there presence in Western countries will tilt voting opinion, away from Israel. For example, in France there are 5 million Muslims. Soon their ratios of these French-Muslims will be equivalent to those of African-Americans in USA.

Based on all of this, I think many Jews, correctly realize the dilemma they face. If they make peace with Palestinians, they will eventually drown in Palestinians. And as the Arab countries get out of the 3rd world, I am not sure whether they will not try to really push Israel into the sea. On the other hand, they cannot annex any more Arab lands, because the Arab population comes with it. And they cannot fight forever. And while they can discriminate agaisnt the Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank, they cannot discriminate against the Palestinians who are themselves Israeli citizens and whose population is growing and may someday reach the levels of Jews in Israel.

So this is why Jews are so insecure. Unfortunately, they have brought much of this onto themselves, due to the human displacement they created in the Middle East.

I personally think, the world (and specifically the Jewish community itself) would have been much better off, and far more peaceful now, had Israel been created in British Columbia or New Mexico, or even in Germany.

Surviving in a neighborhood surrounded by 250 million Arabs, who are counting their time for revenge, is not a very secure position. It is a short term gain, but a long-term loss.

Ah! one supporter of the thug from Tora bora speaks….

#98 by HisExcellency
“it is ONLY because of these indomitable Mujahideen... and not because of armchair experts like ourselves. Afghans and Pakistanis will remain indebted to these Jihadis and their mentors for generations.”

Oh Boy! Finally one comes out of the caves. How long its gonna take FBI to trace the IP address? This guy will soon be water skiing in Gitmo…..

#94 by hamidm2

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my only regret is that folks like maulana sami-ul-haq, fazlur rehaman and qazi hussain, people who created the monsters incarcerated there, are still roaming free and plotting against civilization
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Thank your lucky stars that these ``monsters`` were there to kick the Soviets out of Afghanistan. Otherwise the iron curtain of communism would have engulfed Afghanistan and Pakistan... and we would be addressing each other as Comrades... and getting our daily rations chalked out by bureaucrats in Moscow.

If today the Red Empire is no more, it is ONLY because of these indomitable Mujahideen... and not because of armchair experts like ourselves. Afghans and Pakistanis will remain indebted to these Jihadis and their mentors for generations.

echoboom #93,

``Are you helping fellow-muslims or just muslims``

What difference does it make ?

#73 by hossp on January 28, 2004 8:21am PT

In the guise of supporting the Bill of rights Minai conveniently brings up the Jamaat Islami agenda. Jamaat Islami and Bill of rights????? ``koi batlao ke ham batlayen kya?``
The truth is; their true counterpart in this society is the Christian right with a huge difference though: Christian right does not support the thugs from Tora Bora but these people look to Tora bora for leadership.

Rightly said! These OBL types are the counterparts of CHristian thugs and Nickerwalas-
SECULARISM is the only solution to all the dilemmas of American (or whatsoever) Muslims-

welcome home.......

...........the sunday before, when i landed at islamabad airport, i was a little confused about which immigration line to stand in - foreigner, pakistani, foreigner with resident card, foreigner with remittance card .......... i enviously looked at all the people who didn`t have to stand in line at all............ ah! there was a time when i didn`t have to stand in any line either, because some peon would be there to do get all the paperwork done, pick up the luggage, and deliver it while i sipped whipped coffee in the vip room with some goon in khaki - that was before my americanization........ now i stand in line like the rest of humanity ............but it didn`t seem to make any difference which line you stood in, so i stood in the shortest line and the surly immigration officer took my picture, blew smoke in my face, ran my passport through the american supplied machine, called for tea and then sent me on my way while stealing a glance at the gazelle-eyed lady officer at the next desk ............. i looked too, and i think she smiled ............

............stuck in the traffic on murree road for hours as musharraf tried to dodge his tormentors, i looked around and felt at peace with myself and in complete harmony with my surroundings ..........``these are my people ... they might be a pain to live with, but i certainly don`t want to be buried out there in a neat geometric pattern of mowed grass with all those white people - how will they find me``, i thought as i looked at the chaos of life ............ i felt a surge of compassion for the wretched unwashed masses as they honked and yelled at each other and cursed musharraf and allah`s warriors for gridlocking their lives ..........they asked, ``why doesn`t he move to islamabad and live in the presidency now that he has been elected president``...................my heart overflowed with unbounded love for my people as i relieved myself against the wall ............ they squatted in their shalwars and i stood up in my pants, but we were in total harmony as we lined up shoulder to knee - there was a strange urinal bond that united us ................it was a spiritual moment ................ i was home

............last sunday when i landed at o`hare i had no doubt about which line to stand in ......... the immigration officer asked me how long had i been away, ran my passport through the machine, smiled and said, ``welcome home``............ it was good to be back home .............