The Yearning for Peace
Beena Sarwar February 10, 2004
#39 Posted by themaniac on April 5, 2006 6:45:06 am
yeah baby!!!
pakistan a country of mutherfuckers,opening more and more terrorist camps funded by paki `tanashah` govt. to spread terrorism in INDIA.
the terrorist who carried out varanasi bomb blasts have been arrested and they revealed that they have been trained in pakistan.
pakistan a country of mutherfuckers,opening more and more terrorist camps funded by paki `tanashah` govt. to spread terrorism in INDIA.
the terrorist who carried out varanasi bomb blasts have been arrested and they revealed that they have been trained in pakistan.
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#38 Posted by mumbaikar on April 8, 2004 9:02:31 am
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#36 Posted by mumbaikar on February 20, 2004 5:45:05 pm
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#35 Posted by mumbaikar on February 20, 2004 8:15:16 am
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#34 Posted by adha_wad_jae on February 13, 2004 2:36:33 pm
adaab arz hai, i am new. i am lurker, i am a jerker... I`m a joker, I`m a smoker, I`m a midnight toker. I sure don`t want to hurt no one.
The DA prosecuting Mir Aimal Kansi for shooting and killing 2 FBI agents outside J. Edgar Hoover Center in Washington DC said Pakistanis will sell their own mother for few dollars. Was he right? You be the judge-
From todays Dawn-
http://www.dawn.com/2004/02/13/fea.htm
Violence against women
By Syed Shahid Husain
We are a violent society and recourse to violence is quite commonplace. In spite of our adherence to the convention on the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women, 1979, we continue to regard women as lesser creation of God. Violence takes various forms.
There was yet another brazenly monstrous case. About four decades ago, a friend of this writer was posted at Wana, South Waziristan. One of his Pathan employees tried to sell his widowed mother in marriage.
He had no other use for her. She begged her son but his greed for money was far stronger.
The DA prosecuting Mir Aimal Kansi for shooting and killing 2 FBI agents outside J. Edgar Hoover Center in Washington DC said Pakistanis will sell their own mother for few dollars. Was he right? You be the judge-
From todays Dawn-
http://www.dawn.com/2004/02/13/fea.htm
Violence against women
By Syed Shahid Husain
We are a violent society and recourse to violence is quite commonplace. In spite of our adherence to the convention on the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women, 1979, we continue to regard women as lesser creation of God. Violence takes various forms.
There was yet another brazenly monstrous case. About four decades ago, a friend of this writer was posted at Wana, South Waziristan. One of his Pathan employees tried to sell his widowed mother in marriage.
He had no other use for her. She begged her son but his greed for money was far stronger.
#33 Posted by stuka on February 13, 2004 10:24:35 am
Abay, yeh to Peace wala thread thaa!! HAHA!!
Gadhon, kuch to sharam karo.
Gadhon, kuch to sharam karo.
#32 Posted by gujjubania on February 13, 2004 9:49:31 am
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#31 Posted by rsaxena on February 13, 2004 6:29:32 am
hrrehman:
..bankrupt countries like pakistan run by dicktators and known internationally to be thieves and smugglers of nukes have nothing to be zindabad about...
..bankrupt countries like pakistan run by dicktators and known internationally to be thieves and smugglers of nukes have nothing to be zindabad about...
#30 Posted by hrrehman on February 12, 2004 10:48:11 pm
#29 by gujjubania
admit it man, you guys can`t fight, having your forces
on the border for a year and spewing hollow threats
for war and then retreating back to your holes.
shame on you. Your Hindu leadership always knew
they can`t afford to fight mighty Pakistanis.
Also please please feed your soldiers, they look like they
are dying of hunger. Your so called ``Jawans`` look pretty
pathetic, I saw a documentry on BBC about your commandoes
it was so funny, after seeing the shape your commandoes are
in I know Pakistan has nothing to worry about:) Pakistan Zindabad
admit it man, you guys can`t fight, having your forces
on the border for a year and spewing hollow threats
for war and then retreating back to your holes.
shame on you. Your Hindu leadership always knew
they can`t afford to fight mighty Pakistanis.
Also please please feed your soldiers, they look like they
are dying of hunger. Your so called ``Jawans`` look pretty
pathetic, I saw a documentry on BBC about your commandoes
it was so funny, after seeing the shape your commandoes are
in I know Pakistan has nothing to worry about:) Pakistan Zindabad
#29 Posted by gujjubania on February 12, 2004 8:29:05 pm
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#28 Posted by stuka on February 12, 2004 8:38:19 am
wahi_to:
``dont you know that banias/brahmins/sudras were not meant to be fighters. kshatriyas is the warring class and rest are not. ``
You are right. And yet you wannabe Arabs make such pathetic fighters that even our Banias, Brahmins, Sudras, Muslims and Christians kick your ass.
Oh, and to make it even sweeter, the operational commander in the 1971 war was Gen Jacob, a Jew!! HAHAHAHA!!
``dont you know that banias/brahmins/sudras were not meant to be fighters. kshatriyas is the warring class and rest are not. ``
You are right. And yet you wannabe Arabs make such pathetic fighters that even our Banias, Brahmins, Sudras, Muslims and Christians kick your ass.
Oh, and to make it even sweeter, the operational commander in the 1971 war was Gen Jacob, a Jew!! HAHAHAHA!!
#27 Posted by Indian on February 12, 2004 8:23:35 am
Sridhar # 26
You are right on dot. Mushy and Pakistan`s ass is on fire. All you need to listen to CNN, NBC and ABC and see today`s NYTimes, WP etc. Their ass is on fire and they are still talking about Kashmir. Pakistanis, Beware they are coming after you!! Mushy and all these editorial writers in Dawn, Jang are telling lies to their people that worst is over. NO, Not so Fast. This is just the beginning. Yesterday Bush and White House spokesman were grilled by the media on Pak. Plus there are elections now.
You are right on dot. Mushy and Pakistan`s ass is on fire. All you need to listen to CNN, NBC and ABC and see today`s NYTimes, WP etc. Their ass is on fire and they are still talking about Kashmir. Pakistanis, Beware they are coming after you!! Mushy and all these editorial writers in Dawn, Jang are telling lies to their people that worst is over. NO, Not so Fast. This is just the beginning. Yesterday Bush and White House spokesman were grilled by the media on Pak. Plus there are elections now.
#26 Posted by rsridhar on February 12, 2004 6:27:31 am
re: It is now Official: Pakis are the greatest jokers in the world
This is from an Australian daily newspaper ``The Australian``:
http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=326858
``Pakistan`s chilling sense of humour
February 07, 2004
YOU`VE got to love the Pakistanis, they`re the world`s greatest jokers.
This week, their top nuclear scientist, Dr AQ Khan, told the nation that he had sent nuclear weapons secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea, but that he had done it on his own. He was deeply sorry for this, but he acted entirely on his own and, get this, entirely in good faith, whatever that means.
Pakistan`s dictator, General Pervez Musharraf, made another broadcast confirming that Khan had acted alone and that no one from the army had helped him.
This is pure farce and a grim theatre designed to offer the flimsiest fig leaf to what is probably the single greatest act of nuclear proliferation in the world`s history.
Stopping the spread of nuclear weapons has always been one of Australia`s very highest foreign policy aims. It was one of the main reasons we participated in the war in Iraq.
It is worth reflecting that Australia is, for a country of our size, uniquely incapable of withstanding any nuclear strike, as virtually all of our population is clustered in six isolated coastal cities.
Six missiles and the Australian story is more or less over. That utter doom scenario has been made substantially more possible by the grotesque actions of Pakistan, which has engaged in some of the worst rogue state behaviour of any nation in our time. Musharraf, of course, immediately pardoned Khan.
I don`t think there is a single person anywhere in the world who believes that Khan proliferated nuclear technology without the complete connivance of the Pakistani military. And the key man in the military for a long, long time has been Musharraf himself.
Khan`s statement: ``I also wish to clarify that there was never any kind of authorisation for these activities by the Government`` is literally an insult to our intelligence.
If for a single second anyone took the statement seriously it would mean that the Pakistani military and Government are the most incompetent in history, manifestly unfit to be near any nuclear weapon under any circumstances.
But, of course, the Pakistani military is nothing like that incompetent. The Government knew exactly what he was doing at all times.
Within Australia, we have not generally realised just what a profound crisis the world faces in Pakistan. On the face of this week`s revelations, Pakistan has engaged in far worse nuclear proliferation than North Korea has ever dreamed of. Yet the US, under both Clinton and Bush, has kept the prospect of military action against North Korea on the table to deter it from actually going into full scale nuclear weapon production and possibly exporting this to other nations. We know now that Pakistan has actually done what the US, and the rest of us, only fear what the North Koreans might do.
But this is not a historical crisis, something entirely in the past.
Musharraf has recently survived two assassination attempts. In New Delhi, where I`ve spent the past week, there was some serious speculation that the first assassination attempt was perhaps a fake, designed to impress on the Americans the depth of domestic opposition Musharraf faces and his indispensability. But no one thinks the second assassination attempt, in which the bomb missed Musharraf`s car by seconds, was a fake and there is widespread suspicion of involvement by dissident factions of the army.
The whole future of Pakistan is truly in play. Musharraf, despite the shocking revelations of this week, is probably the least bad alternative as a leader for Pakistan at the moment. But no one knows whether his recent willingness to compromise and make peace with India, much less his promise to co-operate in preventing nuclear proliferation in the future, are a genuine strategic change of heart by Pakistan or just another tactical feint.
This is one of the most important questions the world needs to answer today. Under American pressure, the Pakistani military has isolated its most extreme leaders and put in place a chain of command in which secular officers, allegedly committed to the new Musharraf doctrines, are the next several in line after Musharraf. But if Musharraf were killed there would be chaos in Pakistan and any new general would know Musharraf was killed because of opposition to his new policies.
The future of the world`s second largest Islamic nation, filled with extremist groups, with a long history of supporting the Taliban and exporting terrorism, and with we now know the world`s worst history in spreading nuclear weapons technology, and most important of all with 30 to 40 of its own nuclear warheads, is truly in play.
The Americans bear a fair degree of indirect responsibility for this state of affairs. They pioneered the jihad technique for attacking the Soviets in Afghanistan, which Pakistan now uses against India in Kashmir and which has become an uncontrollable, worldwide movement.
Now the US, and Australia, are caught in a horrible bind. Musharraf, for all his appalling baggage, nonetheless is probably preferable to the chaos and risk that would follow if he were gone. I heard an American this week describe Pakistan as the scariest place on Earth. He was right about that. ``
Pakis lost in Kargil but think they won. Pakis lost the 1971 war but were told they put a spin even to that. Abdul Xerox Khan proliferated nuclear technology to rogue states with the active connivance of the Army but Pakis are being told Army did not know anything about it. During the Kargil war, when Paki Army lost, Nawaz Sharief was the fall guy. He had to go to beg and plead with Bill Clinton for a ceasefire on LOC. He rescued the Paki Army but latter put the blame on him for a sellout!
Today, their won hero has become a fall guy just to save the Army. That very army is under the tight noose of US.
One wonders if most Pakis (the kind interacting in chowk) are not ``chootias`` of the highest order. Nobody seems to debate if this army should be blamed or not. If Pak had a functioning democrazy and if army were not controlling civilians, Pak would not face this kind of humiliation the world over. Only yesterday, George Bush spelled Pak`s name clearly when he talked about his concerns with nuclear proliferation. But nobody in this chowk seems to care about that. Nobody is angry the way army has lied to them about everything and controlled their lives. All they care is how they look vis-a-vis India. It is really pathetic.
Sridhar
This is from an Australian daily newspaper ``The Australian``:
http://www.sulekha.com/redirectnh.asp?cid=326858
``Pakistan`s chilling sense of humour
February 07, 2004
YOU`VE got to love the Pakistanis, they`re the world`s greatest jokers.
This week, their top nuclear scientist, Dr AQ Khan, told the nation that he had sent nuclear weapons secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea, but that he had done it on his own. He was deeply sorry for this, but he acted entirely on his own and, get this, entirely in good faith, whatever that means.
Pakistan`s dictator, General Pervez Musharraf, made another broadcast confirming that Khan had acted alone and that no one from the army had helped him.
This is pure farce and a grim theatre designed to offer the flimsiest fig leaf to what is probably the single greatest act of nuclear proliferation in the world`s history.
Stopping the spread of nuclear weapons has always been one of Australia`s very highest foreign policy aims. It was one of the main reasons we participated in the war in Iraq.
It is worth reflecting that Australia is, for a country of our size, uniquely incapable of withstanding any nuclear strike, as virtually all of our population is clustered in six isolated coastal cities.
Six missiles and the Australian story is more or less over. That utter doom scenario has been made substantially more possible by the grotesque actions of Pakistan, which has engaged in some of the worst rogue state behaviour of any nation in our time. Musharraf, of course, immediately pardoned Khan.
I don`t think there is a single person anywhere in the world who believes that Khan proliferated nuclear technology without the complete connivance of the Pakistani military. And the key man in the military for a long, long time has been Musharraf himself.
Khan`s statement: ``I also wish to clarify that there was never any kind of authorisation for these activities by the Government`` is literally an insult to our intelligence.
If for a single second anyone took the statement seriously it would mean that the Pakistani military and Government are the most incompetent in history, manifestly unfit to be near any nuclear weapon under any circumstances.
But, of course, the Pakistani military is nothing like that incompetent. The Government knew exactly what he was doing at all times.
Within Australia, we have not generally realised just what a profound crisis the world faces in Pakistan. On the face of this week`s revelations, Pakistan has engaged in far worse nuclear proliferation than North Korea has ever dreamed of. Yet the US, under both Clinton and Bush, has kept the prospect of military action against North Korea on the table to deter it from actually going into full scale nuclear weapon production and possibly exporting this to other nations. We know now that Pakistan has actually done what the US, and the rest of us, only fear what the North Koreans might do.
But this is not a historical crisis, something entirely in the past.
Musharraf has recently survived two assassination attempts. In New Delhi, where I`ve spent the past week, there was some serious speculation that the first assassination attempt was perhaps a fake, designed to impress on the Americans the depth of domestic opposition Musharraf faces and his indispensability. But no one thinks the second assassination attempt, in which the bomb missed Musharraf`s car by seconds, was a fake and there is widespread suspicion of involvement by dissident factions of the army.
The whole future of Pakistan is truly in play. Musharraf, despite the shocking revelations of this week, is probably the least bad alternative as a leader for Pakistan at the moment. But no one knows whether his recent willingness to compromise and make peace with India, much less his promise to co-operate in preventing nuclear proliferation in the future, are a genuine strategic change of heart by Pakistan or just another tactical feint.
This is one of the most important questions the world needs to answer today. Under American pressure, the Pakistani military has isolated its most extreme leaders and put in place a chain of command in which secular officers, allegedly committed to the new Musharraf doctrines, are the next several in line after Musharraf. But if Musharraf were killed there would be chaos in Pakistan and any new general would know Musharraf was killed because of opposition to his new policies.
The future of the world`s second largest Islamic nation, filled with extremist groups, with a long history of supporting the Taliban and exporting terrorism, and with we now know the world`s worst history in spreading nuclear weapons technology, and most important of all with 30 to 40 of its own nuclear warheads, is truly in play.
The Americans bear a fair degree of indirect responsibility for this state of affairs. They pioneered the jihad technique for attacking the Soviets in Afghanistan, which Pakistan now uses against India in Kashmir and which has become an uncontrollable, worldwide movement.
Now the US, and Australia, are caught in a horrible bind. Musharraf, for all his appalling baggage, nonetheless is probably preferable to the chaos and risk that would follow if he were gone. I heard an American this week describe Pakistan as the scariest place on Earth. He was right about that. ``
Pakis lost in Kargil but think they won. Pakis lost the 1971 war but were told they put a spin even to that. Abdul Xerox Khan proliferated nuclear technology to rogue states with the active connivance of the Army but Pakis are being told Army did not know anything about it. During the Kargil war, when Paki Army lost, Nawaz Sharief was the fall guy. He had to go to beg and plead with Bill Clinton for a ceasefire on LOC. He rescued the Paki Army but latter put the blame on him for a sellout!
Today, their won hero has become a fall guy just to save the Army. That very army is under the tight noose of US.
One wonders if most Pakis (the kind interacting in chowk) are not ``chootias`` of the highest order. Nobody seems to debate if this army should be blamed or not. If Pak had a functioning democrazy and if army were not controlling civilians, Pak would not face this kind of humiliation the world over. Only yesterday, George Bush spelled Pak`s name clearly when he talked about his concerns with nuclear proliferation. But nobody in this chowk seems to care about that. Nobody is angry the way army has lied to them about everything and controlled their lives. All they care is how they look vis-a-vis India. It is really pathetic.
Sridhar
#25 Posted by arjun_m on February 12, 2004 6:27:30 am
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#24 Posted by wahi_to on February 12, 2004 5:29:41 am
gujjubania,
checked out the website you mentioned. that photograph could very well be of indian soldiers suurendering to chinese when china whipped india`s ass in 62.
also on the website`s homepage, there is this pretty indian officer saluting me, is there any way i can get her contact details....
dont you know that banias/brahmins/sudras were not meant to be fighters. kshatriyas is the warring class and rest are not.
checked out the website you mentioned. that photograph could very well be of indian soldiers suurendering to chinese when china whipped india`s ass in 62.
also on the website`s homepage, there is this pretty indian officer saluting me, is there any way i can get her contact details....
dont you know that banias/brahmins/sudras were not meant to be fighters. kshatriyas is the warring class and rest are not.
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