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#25 Posted by mumbaikar on April 8, 2004 9:02:32 am
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#24 Posted by carpejuglum on March 26, 2004 9:36:56 am
I went to Karachi in December and to Lahore in February. While my visit to Karachi was as a peace delegate, I went to Lahore as a part of my college debate team. And my experience in both the cities mirrored the email Mumbaikar has posted.
In Karachi some 13 of us had gone shopping with 2 pakistani hosts. The group consisted of 10 women and 5 hapless guys. Our Pakistani hosts were very worried as to how safe we would be and made us insist that we pretend to be Pakistani. So much so that we all had Pakistani aliases. However in the heat of bargaining the carefully learned urdu phrases were forgotten and just when Shipra (aka Sanam) said, ``bhaiyya, hum door se aye hain discount de dijiye``, the shopkeer chimed up, ``Kya aap India se aye hain``.
And before we knew it, we had Pak cola (its green in colour) ordered for us, stools were pulled out we had discounts on the house and had invitations to dinner.
In Karachi some 13 of us had gone shopping with 2 pakistani hosts. The group consisted of 10 women and 5 hapless guys. Our Pakistani hosts were very worried as to how safe we would be and made us insist that we pretend to be Pakistani. So much so that we all had Pakistani aliases. However in the heat of bargaining the carefully learned urdu phrases were forgotten and just when Shipra (aka Sanam) said, ``bhaiyya, hum door se aye hain discount de dijiye``, the shopkeer chimed up, ``Kya aap India se aye hain``.
And before we knew it, we had Pak cola (its green in colour) ordered for us, stools were pulled out we had discounts on the house and had invitations to dinner.
#23 Posted by purestlies on March 24, 2004 11:52:13 am
I`m all in for peace, friendship and people to people interaction but one issue no one has highlighted is that of Pakistani seamen are still denied shore leave in India and vice versa. These are the people who are at sea on days with no end and when they happen to reach shore closest to home they are not allowed to leave port.
These are the people who`d really appreciate India-Pak friendship, not some celebrity making a publicity tour.
These are the people who`d really appreciate India-Pak friendship, not some celebrity making a publicity tour.
#22 Posted by Ras on March 17, 2004 8:58:22 pm
from the CHOWK archives
Listen South Asia
Listen to the leaves in the wind
The gentle cry of the myna bird
And smell the mustard
On the breath of spring
I ask not for your silence now
As you plan the atomic future so well
While I cradle the past
With the firmness of the desperate
Your work never rests
Mine is all but forgotten but
Who knows why we cannot
Together weave common rope?
Listen to the children cry
Can you hear them?
Muslim or Hindu, all children
We often claim to be deaf yet
Hear their hunger
As our children cry
by
Ras H. Siddiqui
Listen South Asia
Listen to the leaves in the wind
The gentle cry of the myna bird
And smell the mustard
On the breath of spring
I ask not for your silence now
As you plan the atomic future so well
While I cradle the past
With the firmness of the desperate
Your work never rests
Mine is all but forgotten but
Who knows why we cannot
Together weave common rope?
Listen to the children cry
Can you hear them?
Muslim or Hindu, all children
We often claim to be deaf yet
Hear their hunger
As our children cry
by
Ras H. Siddiqui
#21 Posted by mumbaikar on March 17, 2004 1:43:07 pm
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#20 Posted by arjun_m on March 15, 2004 9:45:59 pm
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#19 Posted by mumbaikar on March 15, 2004 4:24:25 pm
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#18 Posted by Inquirer on March 15, 2004 1:49:13 pm
Irrespective of what training we need, if you agree that we need to recognize LOC as international border in order for putting Kashmir irritation to rest in both countries and proceeding to develop healthy relations between them, we do not have any substantive difference on the issue at hand.
#17 Posted by arjun_m on March 15, 2004 1:10:36 pm
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#16 Posted by Inquirer on March 15, 2004 12:33:36 pm
#15,arjun:
You need training in logical thinking.
Why would RSS want to give part of Kashmir to Pakistan on platter? My statement refused nothing!
I am more Indian - Hindu Indian at that - than you are, though you rant and rave alot.
You need training in logical thinking.
Why would RSS want to give part of Kashmir to Pakistan on platter? My statement refused nothing!
I am more Indian - Hindu Indian at that - than you are, though you rant and rave alot.
#15 Posted by arjun_m on March 15, 2004 11:01:28 am
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#14 Posted by arjun_m on March 15, 2004 10:53:00 am
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#13 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on March 15, 2004 10:40:30 am
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#12 Posted by arjun_m on March 15, 2004 10:40:30 am
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#11 Posted by arjun_m on March 15, 2004 10:40:30 am
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#10 Posted by Inquirer on March 15, 2004 10:18:32 am
#9, Urstruly:
What can I say if you are not sure of your humanity?
What can I say if you are not sure of your humanity?
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