Bombay, personally

khamkhwa, thanks for calling me a biatch, I am overcome. :).

Anyone else, I may be the Unabomber or Osama Bin Laden, that is noone else`s business. Stay or leave a discussion board, that is your choice. chowk has a facility to vote off an interactor, use that and stop whining.

Any person telling me or my family members things like that lying is a genetic trait(#50 of Separate electorate board) is not trying to have a conversation with me, he is trying to have a fight with me. I am simply not interested.

As for my #25, I posted it as a response to this article. I have explained a little of why I say so on this board, there is a lot more behind my statement, which noone asks or wants to talk about, as usual, preferring to impute any or every motive to me. I am not responsible for replying every time I am accused of evil motives. If any chowkie takes this as a personal remark directed at him or her, he/she is abysmally stupid and I am not responsible for that stupidity either.

Jang,

Thankyou... sadly the chowkstaff is like a goat which is so gullible to be slaughtered by a meethi churri. Nooralain has perfected the use of meethi churri.

As for husband wife tag teams, we rarely interact on the same boards unless it is something outrageously wrong.. or something that interests us. Here no amount of bullying and lying could stop us from telling the truth i.e. This board, dedicated to peace in south asia between our two nations, was deliberately derailed by the person who wrote #25 ...


The unemployment problems created by vajpayee`s decision to disband `OFBJP` in the US are enormous. I appeal to the Indian Prime Minister to restart that organization.

-YLH

I repeat my protest to the chowk staff: you have shoddy standards. Just beacuse noor sounds like a nice interactor does not mean you get her off-topic ramblings back! Also, chowk should not allow husband-wife tag teams who are not anonymous..it just takes away from freedom of internet medium.

khamkhwa. ,

When was the last time you visited mumbai?

#68

Look whose talking. Pot calling the kettle black...

If speaking the truth makes someone a$$hole, then I am proud to be one... amazingly what evidence is being quoted... that Sadna, after the terrible gujurat, tried to do some damage control here on chowk. Now... going by this logic... I have been speaking of the rights of minorities and not just on this website but on every newspaper, and in face of mullahs, and rabidly Islamist organizations here in Pakistan. It wasn`t done for damage control or face saving.

Yet that hasn`t stopped Mr. Khamkhwa or his favorite Sadna from making the most disgustingly inaccurate comments about me. By that logic... what part of the rectal wall will you associate yourself with?

-YLH

69

This has simply become a match of egos... that you haven`t addressed the real issues is clear. What personal attack... saying that you don`t have a fair bone in your body ? Now if that is a personal attack then I am sorry for hurting your feelings.

As for Sadna, her record speaks for itself.
I am out of here.

-YLH

Okay everyone,

As entertaining as this is, how about we start a separate thread titled
``Sadna: aspiring/confirmed bigot`` and move this there ?

What do you say, Sadna ?

... nannhay!
...these people aren`t fit for your wisdom as you are ahead of your time like Ghalib was... they hate your intelligence, your principled defence of pakistan, munh-toR jawab to the bloody hindus-tvas, superiority of paf, and this includes chowk editors who are actually indians masquerading as pakistanis.......;)
...leave them alone and do your thingy...btw, you are yet to tell me the name of jinnah`s mummy dearest...if you can`t, then promise me O lord of the Rings never ever to utter the word JINNAH...;))

Yasser and I once had a disagreement a couple of years ago about Sadna where he kept trying to convince me that I really should think ill of her because he met her and thought she was a nice person. Judging from her interacts on Chowk, and her caustic comments about Pakistan the first chance she got, I really couldn`t be bothered about changing my mind. One of the main reasons I stopped interacting on Chowk was Sadna and her brother. It is not that I don`t accept criticism of Pakistan, but to be put into a compartment just because of my natonality is not my idea of criticism. Sadna has done so repeatedly here on chowk, resorting to worse kind of name calling and like one of the interactors (68) pointed out relies on mostly `made up` facts.

The second reason I limited interactions was because of people like nooralain. Your self-righteous post about Yasser with excessive repetition of `you know what Yasser` reminds me of preschool. Did Yasser desecrate your churches or destroy your bibles? If anything he has always stood up for the down trodden non-muslims of Pakistan. You claim that he starts these fights. Show us where that is the case. Here as with the other board, Yasser did not call Sadna a hindutvist until she drew the first blood. On the other board, it was after she refused to answer a perfectly reasonable post without any `name-calling` citing her `voting rights`, that Yasser reminded her that this was a website frequented by both Indians and Pakistanis. Please feel free to back up your claims with actual instances.

All YLH needs to stop taking people like you and sadna seriously, and giving you the time of the day. Uncle Nand of Chowk gave Yasser very similar advice. If at all, his fault lies in not following it.


Aisha Sarwari

Montolives,
Didn`t you, in your previous handle as YLH, abuse hamidm`s wife in the crassest terms? Why are you complaining now? Have you grown up or something?

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# 70


``she is not answerable to anyone who puts a question to her in the frame that you did``

Even if what you say is true... and it is not, because frankly no reasonable person can think so, does it warrant an outright attack on the entire Pakistani community? Last time I checked she didn`t single me out, but spoke about the Mating rituals of the entire Pakistani community (59) ... she didn`t declare that she was not answerable to me, but instead re-affirmed I am not answerable to Pakistanis and then instead of commenting on poor mantolives drawing room manners, she disparaged the entire Pakistani nation in her post 25.


`I say to you, she didn`t.`

What you say or don`t say doesn`t matter. It is there for everyone to see. I have quoted her interactions .. some of them verbatim on this board. Like I said before... this is turning into an ego match... this is my parting advice to you ... it is always easier to ride a tiger... it is much harder to speak the truth against popular opinion.

... and as for your other comment... on an individual level I am trying to do whatever is in my capacity that whatever trauma you went through in Pakistan... is not repeated to any christian again. I am an optimist, ... we will one day achieve the Pakistan where human rights are provided and every citizen has equal rights.

Have a good night.

-YLH

``you brought your anger from one board to another...another board where the attempt is being made to discuss interactions between indians and pakistanis, as beena has written about``

What a wonderful summing up... if only it was addressed to the person who posted `#25`

p.s. and your definition of who a hindutvist is is incredibly unfortunate. .as well. we`ve all generalized on this board yasser. . .we`ve all said things we believe from our convictions no matter how right or wrong they are. but if you still insist on saying that sadna insulted all pakistanis. . .i say to you she did not. she is not answerable to anyone who puts a question to her in the frame that you did. i read all your exchanges on the other board. . and if you still think I`M unbalanced. . .then there is a much bigger problem than i had thought.

i find it unfortunate that our interactions have reached this point. and if my views are indeed unbalanced, then i should not be on this board, or much of anywhere on chowk. . .but please feel free to post your balanced views any time you please. i wish you all the best. i am done with this board.

khamkhwahi,
i have no intentions of being a diplomat, but thank you for that resounding vote of non-confidence anyways. : )

yasser,
the chowk staff can remove my post per your objections if they see fit. if you are going to continue with repeating the same words that you have in the past i`ve lost count posts, and keep labelling someone a bigot and a hindutvist when there are fellow pakistanis who don`t see it that way and are trying to look at the bigger picture, then that`s your call and up to you.

as to whether i have a fair bone in my body or not, quite frankly, is not for you to judge.
if personal attacks is the way you want to go with this, i did not want to go there with you yasser. because i am trying to be respectful of the entire community here, and that includes sadna and you.

if you are trying to get everyone to see whether i have a fair bone in my body. . .given that you know not a damn thing about my bones, or what i am about. .and somehow i thought you did, mea culpa. . .then it is not for them to judge either. if you want to say that you are right and no one else can be then that is up to you as well.

you have brought up constantly how you never start arguments and insults when you do. .no one will tell you this, but you do. and you tell me that i don`t have a fair bone in my body yasser? are you going to accuse me next of insulting the entire pakistani qaum as well? well yes, i will insult some of the communalists, bigots, desecraters of holy churches, bibles AND qurans in the pakistani qaum, and you know why yasser? because i experienced it first hand, because my family experienced it first hand. and you know what yasser, this is why i can talk the way i do. . .balanced or not. . .it is taken me a long time. . but i can look at both sides now. . .and i did. i did not condone sadna`s remarks. . .but unlike you, sadna did not repeat herself in one board every chance she got. if you are personally insulted and fed up with this whole thing, i apologize. i feel bad that you feel insulted, but yasser, you brought your anger from one board to another...another board where the attempt is being made to discuss interactions between indians and pakistanis, as beena has written about. and if you insist on getting a pound of flesh. . .i suggest to you that it is not going to happen.

i will apologize to you if i`ve hurt you, and i do. but yasser, if you think my views are unbalanced. . .fine. i suggest to you that you still have plenty of maturing to do.

and if chowk staff decides to remove this post as well. . .fine.

Nooralain,

Had you seen my posts .... I mean actually tried to read them instead of regurgitating the same old same old... the you would know that I had not accused Sadna of abusing my family. What I had said was that my family and my wife have been abused in a language lot worse than `Hindutva` but I didn`t respond by painting the entire Indian population with the same brush. It is amazing how you people just twist and turn every word I say. Sadna`s post #25 is for everyone to see. It was a deliberate attack on all Pakistanis.

Not only was it the most pathetic generalization of the Pakistani community, coming from someone who hides behind `I am not answerable to Pakistanis` every time she can`t handle the complexities of the issue.


-YLH


PS: Interactions between Pakistanis and Indians, and South Asians at large go on despite the `misgivings` of those people who want to sabotage the project from abroad...Vajpayee recently disbanded the `Overseas Friends of BJP` ... which seem to share all the misgivings of our respected chowk interactor... Sadna.