Mainstream Textbooks and What They Teach
Omar R Quraishi March 13, 2004
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#41 Posted by danny-khi on June 10, 2004 4:20:52 pm
I think in our campaign for reforms in Pakistani educational system we are forgetting so many things. Being anti-Pakistani which is considered fashionable by many people here at chowk, isn`t going to help any one. We should stick to the point that our education need reforms and just as a safeguard to concerned citizens who are worried about secularization of their children`s minds we should make sure that there is Islamiat for Muslim students from class 1 to 8. Islamiat should be made optional for all students in matriculation. We should teach Urdu and English as languages and to make the comprehension and spoken skills stronger among students. We should remove Islamiat from urdu, english, pakistan studies, civics and science. Yes we do have quranic verses to learn by heart in biology, chemistry and physics for class IX and X these verses should be removed.
Please do not pollute this campaign with anti-Pakistani, anti-US, anti-islamists, anti-indian demons of yours because doing so you are not helping any one.
Please do not pollute this campaign with anti-Pakistani, anti-US, anti-islamists, anti-indian demons of yours because doing so you are not helping any one.
#40 Posted by ballukhan on April 2, 2004 12:46:21 am
The article appears to have hurt Echoboom- Man how can you lampoon his education??
#39 Posted by echoboom on March 29, 2004 7:05:12 pm
O Dawn editor: I know you visit here. I hope you will recover from your anglo-inferiority complex. The only way is to visit & learn from those who walk, talk, and eat like Pakistani Muslims. If you do not have hate against US terrorism , you are wasting your life on this planet.
Do something worthwhile. If you consider yourself to be among the literates you should be able to read this and write like this:
Do something worthwhile. If you consider yourself to be among the literates you should be able to read this and write like this:
#38 Posted by echoboom on March 28, 2004 7:43:22 pm
O Dawn editor: I know you visit here. I hope you will recover from your anglo-inferiority complex. The only way is to visit & learn from those who walk, talk, and eat like Pakistani Muslims. If you do not have hate against US terrorism , you are wasting your life on this planet.
Do something worthwhile. If you consider yourself to be among the literates you should be able to read this and write like this:
Do something worthwhile. If you consider yourself to be among the literates you should be able to read this and write like this:
#37 Posted by echoboom on March 23, 2004 9:38:11 pm
O Dawn editor: I know you visit here. I hope you will recover from your anglo-inferiority complex. The only way is to visit & learn from those who walk, talk, and eat like Pakistani Muslims. If you do not have hate against US terrorism , you are wasting your life on this planet.
Do something worthwhile. If you consider yourself to be among the literates you should be able to read this and write like this:
Do something worthwhile. If you consider yourself to be among the literates you should be able to read this and write like this:
#36 Posted by echoboom on March 20, 2004 7:36:58 pm
Mr. Dawn editor: I`m sure you are lurking somewhere. Please tell the Cavasjee/ghavasjee,
Mazdak/maindak and such kind of illiterates (the kalloo-saabs; IQ=drink, accent, and dress)
to write like this. Promote Urdu on TV Radio and Newspapers so that the english-writers get less money and lead the kind of existence which urdu-mediums lead right now.
Tell the truth, even if it is against your ownself--the Qura`an al-Hakeem.
Mazdak/maindak and such kind of illiterates (the kalloo-saabs; IQ=drink, accent, and dress)
to write like this. Promote Urdu on TV Radio and Newspapers so that the english-writers get less money and lead the kind of existence which urdu-mediums lead right now.
Tell the truth, even if it is against your ownself--the Qura`an al-Hakeem.
#35 Posted by echoboom on March 19, 2004 11:13:36 pm
Mr. O.Qureishi: These are the kind of op-eds which MUST appear not only in Dawn but all english dailies. Opinions which are Muslim-loving, Islam-oriented, indigineously Pakistani .
Stop pretending that since you & your kind speak english, express pride in not knowing enough urdu, look down upon urdu-mediums , praying, pious, and practicing MUSLIMS, that you are educated ones. It is YOU and your types who MUST change because you are wrong, you are cultural-imperialists, you prefer alien-existence while breathing in Pakistan.
Report more & more about the spread of Islam where your masters live. Give a boost to the morale of our locale populace by writing often about the exponetial growth of neo-converts post-911. Promote the idea of returning to the deeper & deeper roots of Islam and chopping off the hydra-heads of secularism, liberalism and democricism (colonial-style).
Discuss this with your board of directors, Chief editors, AND your so-called op-eds.
Stop pretending that since you & your kind speak english, express pride in not knowing enough urdu, look down upon urdu-mediums , praying, pious, and practicing MUSLIMS, that you are educated ones. It is YOU and your types who MUST change because you are wrong, you are cultural-imperialists, you prefer alien-existence while breathing in Pakistan.
Report more & more about the spread of Islam where your masters live. Give a boost to the morale of our locale populace by writing often about the exponetial growth of neo-converts post-911. Promote the idea of returning to the deeper & deeper roots of Islam and chopping off the hydra-heads of secularism, liberalism and democricism (colonial-style).
Discuss this with your board of directors, Chief editors, AND your so-called op-eds.
#34 Posted by echoboom on March 18, 2004 9:15:10 pm
Now what was it that prevented you Mr. totaa to write something sensible like this. Remember, If you cannot be proficient in Urdu, you are an ignorant person.
If you do not dress like majority of Pakistanis, you are a phony.
Never ever measure your IQs by looking like the negative-photo of a goraa. Learn to create & promote hatred for your masters who have fkked up the mother-land real good and continue such atrocities in collusion with such haraami spawns.
Write for a change that ALL official and unofficial business in Pakitan must be in the language which is associated with learning and NOT jobs. Do what the chinese do, germans do, french do and every non-slave nation does.
O baighairtO! when will you realise that english accent and dress does not improve you IQs.
If you do not dress like majority of Pakistanis, you are a phony.
Never ever measure your IQs by looking like the negative-photo of a goraa. Learn to create & promote hatred for your masters who have fkked up the mother-land real good and continue such atrocities in collusion with such haraami spawns.
Write for a change that ALL official and unofficial business in Pakitan must be in the language which is associated with learning and NOT jobs. Do what the chinese do, germans do, french do and every non-slave nation does.
O baighairtO! when will you realise that english accent and dress does not improve you IQs.
#33 Posted by echoboom on March 18, 2004 9:15:10 pm
Instead of your parrot-mynah performance write something that brings on the wrath of the establishment but still tells the people of Pakistan about the true terrorists-- USA.
(are you the same Krantaa-type who did running commentary in british accent? The dog who loved to fetch the ball for the masters in ``oxford-style``..the ignorants` style?
(are you the same Krantaa-type who did running commentary in british accent? The dog who loved to fetch the ball for the masters in ``oxford-style``..the ignorants` style?
#32 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2004 3:01:12 pm
echoboom
OK, I understand now. It is nice to have someone to explain. You have been very patient, thanks!
OK, I understand now. It is nice to have someone to explain. You have been very patient, thanks!
#31 Posted by echoboom on March 18, 2004 2:11:55 pm
Sadna: you are doing quite well.
This is anther way of telling Musharraf that he is a geedhuRR.
This is anther way of telling Musharraf that he is a geedhuRR.
#30 Posted by echoboom on March 18, 2004 12:02:12 pm
Sadna:
No pestering Sadna. I , for a change, am savouring the attention.
He is talking about the Lion of Sringapatam: Tipu Sultan and his famous and celebrated quote esp. among muslims :`` A single-day`s life of a Lion is far better than a 100 year`s life of a jackal.
No pestering Sadna. I , for a change, am savouring the attention.
He is talking about the Lion of Sringapatam: Tipu Sultan and his famous and celebrated quote esp. among muslims :`` A single-day`s life of a Lion is far better than a 100 year`s life of a jackal.
#29 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2004 12:02:12 pm
Don`t laugh please - to me the last bit reads `hum ghairat ki zindagi guzaar sakthey hain - sharth sirf yeh hai ki Srirangpattam(?) ke qiley par hukumrani sher ki ho` .
#28 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2004 11:16:38 am
OK, perhaps I get it. Subsequently it talks of how Jews hold up their heads in Europe despite anti-Semitism? But does the last line refer to Srirangapattam fort or am I totally off? Sorry for pestering.
#27 Posted by echoboom on March 18, 2004 11:16:37 am
No sadna:
The very first paragraph is about the persecution and expulsion of jews post-muslim spain.
The gist of the article is about the tenacity and tensility of the Jews to retain their identity and never melting away into mainstream ``pots``. The article brings home the idea that those who cherish honour and dignity above expediency and compromising of the fundamentals are doomed to become indians--red-indians, that is*
*italicised words mine to bring home the point.
The very first paragraph is about the persecution and expulsion of jews post-muslim spain.
The gist of the article is about the tenacity and tensility of the Jews to retain their identity and never melting away into mainstream ``pots``. The article brings home the idea that those who cherish honour and dignity above expediency and compromising of the fundamentals are doomed to become indians--red-indians, that is*
*italicised words mine to bring home the point.
#26 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2004 8:35:30 am
echoboom
PS: Thanks for helping, btw. I tried learning the script some 10 years ago and can`t help trying to read whenever I see it. But I am very slow and mostly get only that part which has common vocabulary with Hindi.
PS: Thanks for helping, btw. I tried learning the script some 10 years ago and can`t help trying to read whenever I see it. But I am very slow and mostly get only that part which has common vocabulary with Hindi.
#25 Posted by sadna on March 18, 2004 8:10:05 am
echoboom
Is the first paragraph of article saying the Spanish people deserved those attacks?
Is the first paragraph of article saying the Spanish people deserved those attacks?
#24 Posted by echoboom on March 17, 2004 10:40:52 pm
Sadna:23
it is, as you correctly wrote `Masalahat ya Ghairat`.
M`s`l`h`t: consider ` as zbars. as in english:bUrg b`rg.
means: expediency, pragmatism, policy of convenience;appeasement, ad-hocism. Preferring to protect on`es personal arse or position at the expense of honor and dignity of the nation.
In short: Pakistani geedUrship vs US wolves.
it is, as you correctly wrote `Masalahat ya Ghairat`.
M`s`l`h`t: consider ` as zbars. as in english:bUrg b`rg.
means: expediency, pragmatism, policy of convenience;appeasement, ad-hocism. Preferring to protect on`es personal arse or position at the expense of honor and dignity of the nation.
In short: Pakistani geedUrship vs US wolves.
#23 Posted by sadna on March 17, 2004 10:06:54 pm
echoboom
I can`t help asking. Can you pl. tell me what the title is - is it `Masalahat ya Ghairat`? What is Masalahat?
I can`t help asking. Can you pl. tell me what the title is - is it `Masalahat ya Ghairat`? What is Masalahat?
#22 Posted by echoboom on March 17, 2004 9:33:21 pm
This is the kind of stuff which Cavasjee/Ghavasjee types should write. Something which reflects the hopes and aspirations of the learned people of Pakistan..Not the anglicised ignorant scum from totaa-mainaa schools.
Give up your `accent` and gora-style. Repent .Reform. Return to roots.
Give up your `accent` and gora-style. Repent .Reform. Return to roots.
#21 Posted by sadna on March 17, 2004 7:53:53 pm
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-3-2004_pg7_25
``..Moved by Fareed Piracha of Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), the Attention Notice criticized that change in the syllabus on the recommendatory report of the non government organization Sustainable Development Policy Institute (SPDI), deletion of some Quranic verses and other anti-Indian portions from text books was “causing grave concern among the public”.
The education minister dismissed the argument that changes were made on the report by the NGO. A review committee had been formed by the education ministry to review that report after it had received remarkable media coverage, she said, adding the committee found the report biased and rejected it.
Deputy parliamentary leader of the MMA Hafiz Hussain Ahmed asked why the Sura Toba was deleted from the books of Islamic Studies for higher classes. He was concerned by the deletion because the Sura urged Muslims to jihad.
The education minister said Sura Toba was a continuation of Sura Infall and is replaced with same Sura. She said Sura Toba was a lengthy Sura and students found it difficult to learn by rote.
The education minister informed the house that scholars of all Muslim sects approved the latest textbooks of Islamiat for classes I to XII.
She referred to Sura Kafiroon and asked the religious leaders to understand the spirit and true message of that Sura, adding that only God would determine the fate of Muslims and non-believers on judgment day.
Member of Pakistan Muslim League (Quaid-e-Azam) MP Bhandara commented that he was shocked to see the MMA members opposing deletion of anti-India portions from the text books, against the backdrop of peace efforts by India and Pakistan.``
And with what chutzpah Musharraf was preaching to Indians about Hindi movies.
``..Moved by Fareed Piracha of Mutahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), the Attention Notice criticized that change in the syllabus on the recommendatory report of the non government organization Sustainable Development Policy Institute (SPDI), deletion of some Quranic verses and other anti-Indian portions from text books was “causing grave concern among the public”.
The education minister dismissed the argument that changes were made on the report by the NGO. A review committee had been formed by the education ministry to review that report after it had received remarkable media coverage, she said, adding the committee found the report biased and rejected it.
Deputy parliamentary leader of the MMA Hafiz Hussain Ahmed asked why the Sura Toba was deleted from the books of Islamic Studies for higher classes. He was concerned by the deletion because the Sura urged Muslims to jihad.
The education minister said Sura Toba was a continuation of Sura Infall and is replaced with same Sura. She said Sura Toba was a lengthy Sura and students found it difficult to learn by rote.
The education minister informed the house that scholars of all Muslim sects approved the latest textbooks of Islamiat for classes I to XII.
She referred to Sura Kafiroon and asked the religious leaders to understand the spirit and true message of that Sura, adding that only God would determine the fate of Muslims and non-believers on judgment day.
Member of Pakistan Muslim League (Quaid-e-Azam) MP Bhandara commented that he was shocked to see the MMA members opposing deletion of anti-India portions from the text books, against the backdrop of peace efforts by India and Pakistan.``
And with what chutzpah Musharraf was preaching to Indians about Hindi movies.
#20 Posted by echoboom on March 16, 2004 9:13:38 pm
English is O.K as language but in Pakiland they teach english ``culture`` to the totaa-mainaas at Beacon House and Grammar school type of karantaa schools. The un-learned category of Pakistan..the jobbers.
A curse upon you scum , a fie upon you bootlickers.
Learn something from Bangladesh who after separating from the sikh-chhittar-loving brigades have outdone the goraa-goo-chaaters of Pakistan.
Instead of worrying about something that would please your masters O baighairat O laantee , bring to the attention of the Pakistani public which results in more hatred against the enemies of the muslims--the lapdogs of U.S.
For example have the courage to print this stuff in your newspaper. Do something worthwhile rather than trying to be a kalloo-saab..the illiterate anglo-phile of Pakisland.
You just cover-up your low I.Q by alien accent and goraa-dress. Smart practicing muslims consider you a vermin. Never ever forget this.
9/11 revisited because the memories are coveniently short. O what would you not pay to get fkked by a goraa.
ISRAELIS ARRESTED ON SUSPICION OF 9-11 INVOLVEMENT.
TRIO WHO CHEERED ATTACK FACE BOOT AS ILLEGAL ALIENS.
By AL GUART (NEW YORK POST) www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/
September 13, 2001 -- Three men who celebrated as the Twin Towers crumbled are facing deportation, The Post has learned. The men, described as illegal immigrants from the Middle East, were arrested Tuesday afternoon in a white Chevy van near the Meadowlands based on a tip from witnesses who saw them ``cheering`` and ``jumping up and down`` in Liberty State Park after the attack, a source said.
Witnesses took the plate number and the FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: ``Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion.``
Port Authority cops nabbed the three as they drove along Route 3 in East Rutherford in the van, which had the words ``Urban Moving Systems`` painted on it. After grilling the men and searching the van in vain for explosives, the FBI turned the men over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation.
The feds declined to release the men`s identities or nationalities. ``The agency has decided it will not make any comments about this at this time,`` said INS spokesman Kerry Gill. Officials at ``Urban Moving`` claimed to be unaware of what had happened.
FIVE MEN DETAINED AS SUSPECTED CONSPIRATORS
BERGEN RECORD (New Jersey) Wednesday, September 12, 2001 www.bergen.com/news/2bombvan200109125.htm
By PAULO LIMA Staff Writer
Eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan`s tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts. The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday.
However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. ``There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,`` the source said. ``It looked like they`re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.``
Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said. Sources said the van was stopped as it headed east on Route 3, between the Hackensack River bridge and the Sheraton hotel. As a precaution, police shut down Route 3 traffic in both directions after the stop and evacuated a small roadside motel near the Sheraton.
Sources close to the investigation said the men said they were Israeli tourists, but police had not been able to confirm their identities. Authorities would not release their names. East Rutherford officers stopped the van after the FBI`s Newark Office broadcast an alert asking surrounding police departments to look for a white Chevrolet van, police said.
``We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side,`` said Bergen County Police Chief John Schmidig. ``Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down.``
East Rutherford officers summoned the county bomb squad, New Jersey state troopers, and FBI agents, who waited alongside the van as prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney`s Office tried to obtain a warrant to search the van late Tuesday, Schmidig said. The FBI alert, known as a BOLO or ``Be On Lookout,`` was sent out at 3:31 p.m. It read:
``Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with `Urban Moving Systems` sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. ``Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals.``
State police Col. Barry W. Roberson confirmed the traffic stop at a late night news briefing at state police headquarters in Trenton. He would not elaborate, however. A business traveler staying at the Homestead Studio Hotel said she watched state troopers drive the suspects away in a procession of state police cars about 5 p.m. ``First, they told us we could hang out in the lobby, but then they told us to leave,`` the traveler said.
At 10 p.m., the hotel guest said she could see at least two police officers searching through the van while a crowd of other officers kept their distance.
THE SUSPICIOUS ``MIDDLE EASTERN MOVERS`` WERE ISRAELIS WITH BOXCUTTERS,
EUROPEAN PASSPORTS AND $4000 CASH
SOURCE: ISRAEL NATIONAL NEWS
Arutz Sheva News Service IsraelNationalNews.com 10-26-1
Five young Israelis are ``on the verge of collapse,`` according to family members, as their incarceration in New York on charges relating to the Bin Laden attacks continues. They were arrested on Sept. 11, only hours after the World Trade Center attack, on charges of ``plotting to blow up`` a New York bridge. Katie Shmuel of the Galilee town of Yokne`am, says that her son Yaron is in ``a very critical psychological situation,`` given that they are not allowed to have visitors and the difficult conditions in which they are being held. ``The Israeli Consul-General in New York was allowed to visit only after asking several times and receiving a special permit,`` Katie told Arutz-7`s Yosef Zalmanson today. ``He was allowed to talk to them only in English, and only from behind a glass partition. The Consul told me that the boys are in a bad state and that they are being held under difficult conditions.``
When asked why the five youths, aged 22-26, are being held, Katie replied with despair: ``It`s ludicrous. They were on the George Washington Bridge at the time of the bombing, and the FBI had warnings of a terrorist plot, of guys in a white van, to blow up the bridge. So when the FBI saw this van, with my son and his four friends - one of them had a large sum of money, there were two razor knives in the van, and one of the boys is named Omer, which the FBI guys thought was Omar - they put one and one together and got three, and immediately arrested them... For the first few days, the boys were held in an FBI dungeon, tied up, with no clothes and no food.``
*The Israeli newspaper Ha`retz revealed on Sept 17 that these were the same men who were seen ``celebrating`` and ``making mocking gestures`` as the Twin Towers collapsed.
** The Jerusalem Post reported on October 26 that the Israelis were smiling as they photograhed themselves with the collapsed towers in the background.
MORE SUSPICIOUS ISRAELI ``MOVERS`` DETAINED WITH DETAILED VIDEO OF SEARS TOWER
THE MERCURY (PHILADEPHIA AREA NEWSPAPER), POTTSTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA www.zwire.com/site/mercury_101801.html
MICHELLE MOWAD, Special to The Mercury, October 17, 2001
PLYMOUTH (PA) -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago.
Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping.
A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the Dumpster, according to police. The manager confronted the vehicle`s operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said.
The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike... The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read ``Moving Systems Incorporated`` police said.
The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on the curb in front of John Kennedy Ford on Ridge Pike. An officer proceeded to make contact with the occupants of the truck by knocking on the cab, according to reports.
A Middle Eastern man, later identified as Ron Katar, 23, exited the sleeper area of the cab and said that the operator was across the street as he pointed toward the Don Rosen Porsche dealer, reports said.
Elmakias and a white female, Ayelet Reisler, 23, were approaching the vehicle from the dealership, but the female then began walking in a different direction, acting as if she were not with Elmakias, according to reports. Reisler was detained and checked for identification. She had a German passport in her name and medication in a different name, police said. Plymouth Police Sgt. Thomas Longo was notified and responded to the incident.
Elmakias allegedly admitted to being behind Pizzeria Uno, although he said that he did not dump furniture, he was only turning around. Elmakias said that his destination was New York and that he was also coming from New York. He said he was in Plymouth because he was supposed to make a pickup in the morning and pointed toward the Storage USA facility on Belvoir Road , police said. Elmakias could not, however, provide a name or telephone number of the customer.
Township police dispatched a request for a Motor Carrier Program Inspector. Officer Gerald Schwartz of the Whitpain Police Department responded. Schwartz discovered through his investigation that the operator`s log had been falsified and put the truck out of service due to violations. Inspection of the tractor-trailer`s contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing household items, including furniture and boxes. Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera. Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation was notified of the incident and all three subjects were transported to the Plymouth Police station. FBI Agents James Sweeney and Richard Tofani arrived at the station and proceeded to investigate both the subjects and their belongings with the assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services. All evidence collected by Plymouth and Whitpain officers was transferred to federal facilities. Special Agent Linda Vizi, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI, could not be contacted for comment on further investigations.
*The names of the 3 ``Middle Easterners`` named above are clearly of Israeli-Jewish origin.
WANTED BY FBI: STILL MORE SUSPICIOUS MEN WITH ISRAELI PASSPORTS, BOX-CUTTERS,
OIL PIPELINE AND NUCLEAR POWER PLANT PLANS.
SOURCE: THE MIAMI HERALD www.miami.com/herald/special/news/terrorism/digdocs/088964.htm
Nuclear plants tighten security. FBI seeking 6 men seen in Midwest.
BY MARTIN MERZER, CURTIS MORGAN AND LENNY SAVINO mmerzer@herald.com OCTOBER 3,2001
WASHINGTON -- As the nation stands on high alert, the FBI is searching for six men stopped by police in the Midwest last weekend but released -- even though they possessed photos and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and the Trans-Alaska pipeline, a senior law enforcement official said Tuesday.
The Federal Aviation Administration imposed new flight restrictions around nuclear plants nationwide Tuesday, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission advised the nation`s 103 nuclear plants late Monday to fortify security. On Tuesday, agency spokesmen said the FAA`s flight restrictions and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission`s security recommendations were based on Ashcroft`s general alert rather than a specific threat. Ashcroft warned that Americans could be struck by another terrorist attack this week.
The incident in the Midwest apparently contributed to the new warning. The six men stopped by police were traveling in groups of three in two white sedans, said a senior law enforcement official, who requested anonymity.
SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL
In addition to the photographs and other suspicious material, they carried ``box cutters and other equipment,`` the official said. They appeared to be from the Middle East and held Israeli passports. They were let go after the Immigration and Naturalization Service determined that the passports were valid and that the men had entered the United States legally, the official said.
The FBI declined to comment. An INS spokesman called the report unfounded. ``We have absolutely no information at this point in time to substantiate that story,`` said the agency`s Russ Bergeron. It could not be learned in what state the six men were stopped or how they aroused suspicion. It was not known whether their true identities matched those on the passports, or why the FBI was not releasing their names or descriptions.
Investigators think the men almost certainly have changed cars by now and have fled to Canada or elsewhere. Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were ``furious`` that the INS allowed the men to be released without consulting the FBI, the official said. Ashcroft and Mueller appeared Monday evening at a news conference to announce that the government had ``credible`` but vague information that another wave of terrorist attacks could strike Americans within a week.
ON ALERT
Spokeswoman Rachel Scott said FPL`s plants remained at the highest level of alert. ``We are in very close communication with all levels of law enforcement, including the FBI, to ensure we have the security measures in place to protect the plants,`` she said. Also Tuesday, the FAA restricted all flights below 18,000 feet and within 10 miles of 86 ``sensitive nuclear sites`` , the agency said. Exceptions can be made for law enforcement, medical and firefighting flights. The 800-mile-long Trans-Alaska Pipeline runs from Prudhoe Bay on the Arctic Ocean to Valdez on the Pacific.
WORKERS AT ISRAELI OFFICE RECEIVED ADVANCE NOTICE OF THE 9-11 TERROR ATTACK
SOURCE: HA`ARETZ (ISRAELI NEWSPAPER) ENGLISH LANGUAGE EDITION
THIS STORY WAS ALSO CONFIRMED IN THE WASHINGTON POST
www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C
ODIGO SAYS WORKERS WERE WARNED OF ATTACK
By Yuval Dror
Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.
Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the attack informed the company`s management, which immediately contacted Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. ``I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don`t know the sender. .......And I don`t know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made,`` said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.
OSAMA BIN LADEN CLAIMS HE`S BEING FRAMED.
``I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. There exists a government within the government of the United States. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.... The United States should trace the perpetrators of these attacks to those persons who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own nation could survive.
- Osama Bin Laden (Source: BBC)
``BY WAY OF DECEPTION THOU SHALT DO WAR.`` THE MOTTO OF THE MOSSAD (Israeli Intelligence)
In 1956, as reported by the Times Of London, during one of Israel`s perpetual wars with its neighbors, the Mossad tried to trick the United States into siding with Israel against the Arabs by blowing up a US facility in Cairo and blaming the Arabs for it. The plot was wrecked when the operatives were caught and confessed, creating a huge scandal. And according to Victor Ostrovski, a defector from the Mossad, the USA was tricked into bombing Libya when the Mossad planted a radio transmitter in Tripoli which sent out fake orders to terrorists which the USA could intercept.
The young ones who read this in Pakistan must confront their seniors and teachers to teach them more and more about US--the lone terrorist, so that Pakistan becomes Pakeeza.
A curse upon you scum , a fie upon you bootlickers.
Learn something from Bangladesh who after separating from the sikh-chhittar-loving brigades have outdone the goraa-goo-chaaters of Pakistan.
Instead of worrying about something that would please your masters O baighairat O laantee , bring to the attention of the Pakistani public which results in more hatred against the enemies of the muslims--the lapdogs of U.S.
For example have the courage to print this stuff in your newspaper. Do something worthwhile rather than trying to be a kalloo-saab..the illiterate anglo-phile of Pakisland.
You just cover-up your low I.Q by alien accent and goraa-dress. Smart practicing muslims consider you a vermin. Never ever forget this.
9/11 revisited because the memories are coveniently short. O what would you not pay to get fkked by a goraa.
ISRAELIS ARRESTED ON SUSPICION OF 9-11 INVOLVEMENT.
TRIO WHO CHEERED ATTACK FACE BOOT AS ILLEGAL ALIENS.
By AL GUART (NEW YORK POST) www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/
September 13, 2001 -- Three men who celebrated as the Twin Towers crumbled are facing deportation, The Post has learned. The men, described as illegal immigrants from the Middle East, were arrested Tuesday afternoon in a white Chevy van near the Meadowlands based on a tip from witnesses who saw them ``cheering`` and ``jumping up and down`` in Liberty State Park after the attack, a source said.
Witnesses took the plate number and the FBI sent out an alert to area cops, reading: ``Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack . . . Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion.``
Port Authority cops nabbed the three as they drove along Route 3 in East Rutherford in the van, which had the words ``Urban Moving Systems`` painted on it. After grilling the men and searching the van in vain for explosives, the FBI turned the men over to the Immigration and Naturalization Service for deportation.
The feds declined to release the men`s identities or nationalities. ``The agency has decided it will not make any comments about this at this time,`` said INS spokesman Kerry Gill. Officials at ``Urban Moving`` claimed to be unaware of what had happened.
FIVE MEN DETAINED AS SUSPECTED CONSPIRATORS
BERGEN RECORD (New Jersey) Wednesday, September 12, 2001 www.bergen.com/news/2bombvan200109125.htm
By PAULO LIMA Staff Writer
Eight hours after terrorists struck Manhattan`s tallest skyscrapers, police in Bergen County detained five men who they said were found carrying maps linking them to the blasts. The five men, who were in a van stopped on Route 3 in East Rutherford around 4:30 p.m., were being questioned by police but had not been charged with any crime late Tuesday.
However, sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. ``There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,`` the source said. ``It looked like they`re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.``
Sources also said that bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if they had detected explosives. The FBI seized the van for further testing, authorities said. Sources said the van was stopped as it headed east on Route 3, between the Hackensack River bridge and the Sheraton hotel. As a precaution, police shut down Route 3 traffic in both directions after the stop and evacuated a small roadside motel near the Sheraton.
Sources close to the investigation said the men said they were Israeli tourists, but police had not been able to confirm their identities. Authorities would not release their names. East Rutherford officers stopped the van after the FBI`s Newark Office broadcast an alert asking surrounding police departments to look for a white Chevrolet van, police said.
``We got an alert to be on the lookout for a white Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration and writing on the side,`` said Bergen County Police Chief John Schmidig. ``Three individuals were seen celebrating in Liberty State Park after the impact. They said three people were jumping up and down.``
East Rutherford officers summoned the county bomb squad, New Jersey state troopers, and FBI agents, who waited alongside the van as prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney`s Office tried to obtain a warrant to search the van late Tuesday, Schmidig said. The FBI alert, known as a BOLO or ``Be On Lookout,`` was sent out at 3:31 p.m. It read:
``Vehicle possibly related to New York terrorist attack. White, 2000 Chevrolet van with New Jersey registration with `Urban Moving Systems` sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center. ``Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals.``
State police Col. Barry W. Roberson confirmed the traffic stop at a late night news briefing at state police headquarters in Trenton. He would not elaborate, however. A business traveler staying at the Homestead Studio Hotel said she watched state troopers drive the suspects away in a procession of state police cars about 5 p.m. ``First, they told us we could hang out in the lobby, but then they told us to leave,`` the traveler said.
At 10 p.m., the hotel guest said she could see at least two police officers searching through the van while a crowd of other officers kept their distance.
THE SUSPICIOUS ``MIDDLE EASTERN MOVERS`` WERE ISRAELIS WITH BOXCUTTERS,
EUROPEAN PASSPORTS AND $4000 CASH
SOURCE: ISRAEL NATIONAL NEWS
Arutz Sheva News Service IsraelNationalNews.com 10-26-1
Five young Israelis are ``on the verge of collapse,`` according to family members, as their incarceration in New York on charges relating to the Bin Laden attacks continues. They were arrested on Sept. 11, only hours after the World Trade Center attack, on charges of ``plotting to blow up`` a New York bridge. Katie Shmuel of the Galilee town of Yokne`am, says that her son Yaron is in ``a very critical psychological situation,`` given that they are not allowed to have visitors and the difficult conditions in which they are being held. ``The Israeli Consul-General in New York was allowed to visit only after asking several times and receiving a special permit,`` Katie told Arutz-7`s Yosef Zalmanson today. ``He was allowed to talk to them only in English, and only from behind a glass partition. The Consul told me that the boys are in a bad state and that they are being held under difficult conditions.``
When asked why the five youths, aged 22-26, are being held, Katie replied with despair: ``It`s ludicrous. They were on the George Washington Bridge at the time of the bombing, and the FBI had warnings of a terrorist plot, of guys in a white van, to blow up the bridge. So when the FBI saw this van, with my son and his four friends - one of them had a large sum of money, there were two razor knives in the van, and one of the boys is named Omer, which the FBI guys thought was Omar - they put one and one together and got three, and immediately arrested them... For the first few days, the boys were held in an FBI dungeon, tied up, with no clothes and no food.``
*The Israeli newspaper Ha`retz revealed on Sept 17 that these were the same men who were seen ``celebrating`` and ``making mocking gestures`` as the Twin Towers collapsed.
** The Jerusalem Post reported on October 26 that the Israelis were smiling as they photograhed themselves with the collapsed towers in the background.
MORE SUSPICIOUS ISRAELI ``MOVERS`` DETAINED WITH DETAILED VIDEO OF SEARS TOWER
THE MERCURY (PHILADEPHIA AREA NEWSPAPER), POTTSTOWN, PENNSYLVANIA www.zwire.com/site/mercury_101801.html
MICHELLE MOWAD, Special to The Mercury, October 17, 2001
PLYMOUTH (PA) -- Two men whom police described as Middle Eastern were detained in the township by federal immigration authorities after being found with detailed video footage of the Sears Tower in Chicago.
Plymouth Police encountered the men after an officer responded to Pizzeria Uno on West Ridge Pike at 2:40 p.m. Thursday for a report of illegal dumping.
A manager there advised the police officer that a tractor-trailer was observed backed up to the dumpster at the rear of the restaurant. The manager noticed a freshly dumped pile of furniture adjacent to the Dumpster, according to police. The manager confronted the vehicle`s operator, a Middle Eastern man, police said.
The man, who later identified himself as Moshe Elmakias, 30, denied that he did anything and fled the scene, heading west on West Ridge Pike... The manager was able to provide township police with the Florida registration number of the tractor-trailer and said that a sign posted on the side of the vehicle read ``Moving Systems Incorporated`` police said.
The area was searched by township police, and the vehicle was spotted parked on the curb in front of John Kennedy Ford on Ridge Pike. An officer proceeded to make contact with the occupants of the truck by knocking on the cab, according to reports.
A Middle Eastern man, later identified as Ron Katar, 23, exited the sleeper area of the cab and said that the operator was across the street as he pointed toward the Don Rosen Porsche dealer, reports said.
Elmakias and a white female, Ayelet Reisler, 23, were approaching the vehicle from the dealership, but the female then began walking in a different direction, acting as if she were not with Elmakias, according to reports. Reisler was detained and checked for identification. She had a German passport in her name and medication in a different name, police said. Plymouth Police Sgt. Thomas Longo was notified and responded to the incident.
Elmakias allegedly admitted to being behind Pizzeria Uno, although he said that he did not dump furniture, he was only turning around. Elmakias said that his destination was New York and that he was also coming from New York. He said he was in Plymouth because he was supposed to make a pickup in the morning and pointed toward the Storage USA facility on Belvoir Road , police said. Elmakias could not, however, provide a name or telephone number of the customer.
Township police dispatched a request for a Motor Carrier Program Inspector. Officer Gerald Schwartz of the Whitpain Police Department responded. Schwartz discovered through his investigation that the operator`s log had been falsified and put the truck out of service due to violations. Inspection of the tractor-trailer`s contents revealed a load three-quarters full containing household items, including furniture and boxes. Among the items in the truck was a Sony video camera. Plymouth Police Officer David McCann reviewed the tape found inside the camera. The tape had video footage of Chicago with zoomed-in shots of the Sears Tower, according to police.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation was notified of the incident and all three subjects were transported to the Plymouth Police station. FBI Agents James Sweeney and Richard Tofani arrived at the station and proceeded to investigate both the subjects and their belongings with the assistance of Immigration and Naturalization Services. All evidence collected by Plymouth and Whitpain officers was transferred to federal facilities. Special Agent Linda Vizi, a spokeswoman for the Philadelphia FBI, could not be contacted for comment on further investigations.
*The names of the 3 ``Middle Easterners`` named above are clearly of Israeli-Jewish origin.
WANTED BY FBI: STILL MORE SUSPICIOUS MEN WITH ISRAELI PASSPORTS, BOX-CUTTERS,
OIL PIPELINE AND NUCLEAR POWER PLANT PLANS.
SOURCE: THE MIAMI HERALD www.miami.com/herald/special/news/terrorism/digdocs/088964.htm
Nuclear plants tighten security. FBI seeking 6 men seen in Midwest.
BY MARTIN MERZER, CURTIS MORGAN AND LENNY SAVINO mmerzer@herald.com OCTOBER 3,2001
WASHINGTON -- As the nation stands on high alert, the FBI is searching for six men stopped by police in the Midwest last weekend but released -- even though they possessed photos and descriptions of a nuclear power plant in Florida and the Trans-Alaska pipeline, a senior law enforcement official said Tuesday.
The Federal Aviation Administration imposed new flight restrictions around nuclear plants nationwide Tuesday, and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission advised the nation`s 103 nuclear plants late Monday to fortify security. On Tuesday, agency spokesmen said the FAA`s flight restrictions and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission`s security recommendations were based on Ashcroft`s general alert rather than a specific threat. Ashcroft warned that Americans could be struck by another terrorist attack this week.
The incident in the Midwest apparently contributed to the new warning. The six men stopped by police were traveling in groups of three in two white sedans, said a senior law enforcement official, who requested anonymity.
SUSPICIOUS MATERIAL
In addition to the photographs and other suspicious material, they carried ``box cutters and other equipment,`` the official said. They appeared to be from the Middle East and held Israeli passports. They were let go after the Immigration and Naturalization Service determined that the passports were valid and that the men had entered the United States legally, the official said.
The FBI declined to comment. An INS spokesman called the report unfounded. ``We have absolutely no information at this point in time to substantiate that story,`` said the agency`s Russ Bergeron. It could not be learned in what state the six men were stopped or how they aroused suspicion. It was not known whether their true identities matched those on the passports, or why the FBI was not releasing their names or descriptions.
Investigators think the men almost certainly have changed cars by now and have fled to Canada or elsewhere. Ashcroft and FBI Director Robert Mueller were ``furious`` that the INS allowed the men to be released without consulting the FBI, the official said. Ashcroft and Mueller appeared Monday evening at a news conference to announce that the government had ``credible`` but vague information that another wave of terrorist attacks could strike Americans within a week.
ON ALERT
Spokeswoman Rachel Scott said FPL`s plants remained at the highest level of alert. ``We are in very close communication with all levels of law enforcement, including the FBI, to ensure we have the security measures in place to protect the plants,`` she said. Also Tuesday, the FAA restricted all flights below 18,000 feet and within 10 miles of 86 ``sensitive nuclear sites`` , the agency said. Exceptions can be made for law enforcement, medical and firefighting flights. The 800-mile-long Trans-Alaska Pipeline runs from Prudhoe Bay on the Arctic Ocean to Valdez on the Pacific.
WORKERS AT ISRAELI OFFICE RECEIVED ADVANCE NOTICE OF THE 9-11 TERROR ATTACK
SOURCE: HA`ARETZ (ISRAELI NEWSPAPER) ENGLISH LANGUAGE EDITION
THIS STORY WAS ALSO CONFIRMED IN THE WASHINGTON POST
www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=77744&contrassID=/has%5C
ODIGO SAYS WORKERS WERE WARNED OF ATTACK
By Yuval Dror
Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.
Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the attack informed the company`s management, which immediately contacted Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. ``I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don`t know the sender. .......And I don`t know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made,`` said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya.
OSAMA BIN LADEN CLAIMS HE`S BEING FRAMED.
``I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children, and other humans as an appreciable act. There exists a government within the government of the United States. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks.... The United States should trace the perpetrators of these attacks to those persons who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own nation could survive.
- Osama Bin Laden (Source: BBC)
``BY WAY OF DECEPTION THOU SHALT DO WAR.`` THE MOTTO OF THE MOSSAD (Israeli Intelligence)
In 1956, as reported by the Times Of London, during one of Israel`s perpetual wars with its neighbors, the Mossad tried to trick the United States into siding with Israel against the Arabs by blowing up a US facility in Cairo and blaming the Arabs for it. The plot was wrecked when the operatives were caught and confessed, creating a huge scandal. And according to Victor Ostrovski, a defector from the Mossad, the USA was tricked into bombing Libya when the Mossad planted a radio transmitter in Tripoli which sent out fake orders to terrorists which the USA could intercept.
The young ones who read this in Pakistan must confront their seniors and teachers to teach them more and more about US--the lone terrorist, so that Pakistan becomes Pakeeza.
#19 Posted by piXel on March 16, 2004 3:38:27 am
hmm.. reminds me of my school and college days.
sometime during my O levels (class 7 i guess) i read in a Hilal-e-Urdu textbook, in a chapter relating to Karachi, that Lalokhet is a newly developed locality in the city(and this is in the early 1990s).
fast forward to HSC-I, and we have this english professor who raises the english text book in the air and announces that this has been in the curriculum for over the past 40+ years so he knows it like the back of his hand (literally) and then continues to read the chapters out loud without even opening the frontpage!
but his audience is amused for only a short while, since english is still an enigma to them, even after 10 years of schooling, something that they would rather rote learn than understand.
you can`t imagine the sorrow that i felt when i had to write complete essays for some of my collegues on topics like ``a science fair`` or ``a day at the beach`` so that they could rote learn them for the coming 1st year finals- since these were definites for the english paper!
such a curriculum only goes on to mislead the young minds, make them feel that education can only mean boring textbooks referring to things they can not even relate to and widen the ever-present class structure.
all in all, a nice article.
sometime during my O levels (class 7 i guess) i read in a Hilal-e-Urdu textbook, in a chapter relating to Karachi, that Lalokhet is a newly developed locality in the city(and this is in the early 1990s).
fast forward to HSC-I, and we have this english professor who raises the english text book in the air and announces that this has been in the curriculum for over the past 40+ years so he knows it like the back of his hand (literally) and then continues to read the chapters out loud without even opening the frontpage!
but his audience is amused for only a short while, since english is still an enigma to them, even after 10 years of schooling, something that they would rather rote learn than understand.
you can`t imagine the sorrow that i felt when i had to write complete essays for some of my collegues on topics like ``a science fair`` or ``a day at the beach`` so that they could rote learn them for the coming 1st year finals- since these were definites for the english paper!
such a curriculum only goes on to mislead the young minds, make them feel that education can only mean boring textbooks referring to things they can not even relate to and widen the ever-present class structure.
all in all, a nice article.
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#17 Posted by mohar11 on March 15, 2004 11:26:01 am
Manto
//.. The issue of partition is over, and TNT should`ve been discarded on day 1...//
Hind-sight is 20/20.
But Just like TNT was necessary to create Pakistan - it was also necessary to keep it together during its formative eyars. Or so felt the pakistan founders and powers-that-be of that time.
Not that it would have been easy putting the TNT genie back into the bottle, even the ``leaders`` of post-partition pakistan wanted to do so.
In some other board - I narrated an incident involving Jinnah - where he approved the anti-India tirade being propagated in DAWN - on pretext that was necessary to keep newly-formed pakistan together.
//.. The issue of partition is over, and TNT should`ve been discarded on day 1...//
Hind-sight is 20/20.
But Just like TNT was necessary to create Pakistan - it was also necessary to keep it together during its formative eyars. Or so felt the pakistan founders and powers-that-be of that time.
Not that it would have been easy putting the TNT genie back into the bottle, even the ``leaders`` of post-partition pakistan wanted to do so.
In some other board - I narrated an incident involving Jinnah - where he approved the anti-India tirade being propagated in DAWN - on pretext that was necessary to keep newly-formed pakistan together.
#16 Posted by Zakkk on March 15, 2004 10:18:32 am
Another issue is the lack of promotion of regional languages...UNESCO studies have shown that children learn faster when taught in their Mother tongue..
#15 Posted by Urstruly on March 15, 2004 7:54:55 am
The message is clear: Leave the curriculum alone or else.....
#14 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on March 15, 2004 12:31:59 am
i hope the editors allow this to be posted -- this would be the relevant -- dawn is taking out a 20 page supplement in the first week of april on education -- it will be distributed nationally and should appear on the website as well as at an education expo on april 3 (to be held at Karachi`s Expo Centre). Anyone interested in contributing to it can contact us at education@dawn.com or at omarq@cyber.net.pk. -- Thanks -- Omar R. Quraishi
#13 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on March 15, 2004 12:31:59 am
ferozk -- your suggestion on indians teaching in pakistan and vice versa is well repeating -- perhaps if you are interested and if you email it to me directly, with your full name and contact address and number, it can appear in Dawn`s letters section -- Omar R. Quraishi
#12 Posted by Ras on March 14, 2004 5:21:10 pm
My apologies for borrowing your board
DIL FUNDRAISER IN SAN FRANCISCO SET FOR MARCH 27
What could possibly be THE gathering of the year for the Pakistani community in Northern California is scheduled for March 27, 2004 when Developments In Literacy (affectionately known as The DIL Organization) brings its caravan of hope to the Argent Hotel in San Francisco at 50 Third Street with a reception slated for 6:30 pm followed by dinner and entertainment beginning at 7:30.
Headed locally by Sara Abbasi and her team of dedicated ladies who do our country of origin proud, it is organizations like DIL which have spearheaded the cause of fighting illiteracy in Pakistan with resources gathered from the overseas Pakistani community and their friends. And it is for this reason that this coming event should once again bring together the “Who’s who” from within Pakistanis and Pakistani-Americans. Illiteracy and ignorance is a sure path to a life of poverty in Pakistan or for that matter anywhere. The Abbasis (Sohaib and Sara) have already done more than their share towards spreading the spread of knowledge about Islam here in the US by recently funding/initiating an Islamic Studies Chair at Stanford University. Now Sara and her group of friends are back to helping people in Pakistan.
In 2001 Sara Abbasi had this to say about her first effort; “Just as importantly, DIL is working to break the ingrained social taboos that discourage female literacy. This indeed is the noblest of causes. In the words of Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him),
“the mother’s lap is the first school”. Only through such efforts will the next generation of Pakistanis improve, not just their own lives but the entire community around them”, said Mrs. Abbasi.
During the 2002 program it was mentioned that DIL is currently operating in Orangi (outside Karachi), Khairpur (Sindh), Dir (NWFP) and Mianwali (Punjab). There is also the hope that a new project in Baluchistan will be in full operation soon. Currently 200 schools are being operated by DIL with over 8000 children enrolled. What DIL is trying to do is change despair to hope and to bring a confident smile to the faces of young children and wipe away their tears that the embarrassment of illiteracy brings to their lives.
Tickets to the event are not cheap ($100 to $150) but the cause is more than worthy. So if you would like to attend or assist in any way please call (650) 323-6080 or (510) 651-3088. Please do not miss this opportunity to help some very poor in Pakistan get access to education. Corporate Sponsorship is available for $2000 & Patron Tables for $1500 (call for additional details). Please send your checks to 38 Monte Vista Avenue Atherton CA 94027.
You can also contact DIL San Francisco via email at dil_sf@yahoo.com
DIL FUNDRAISER IN SAN FRANCISCO SET FOR MARCH 27
What could possibly be THE gathering of the year for the Pakistani community in Northern California is scheduled for March 27, 2004 when Developments In Literacy (affectionately known as The DIL Organization) brings its caravan of hope to the Argent Hotel in San Francisco at 50 Third Street with a reception slated for 6:30 pm followed by dinner and entertainment beginning at 7:30.
Headed locally by Sara Abbasi and her team of dedicated ladies who do our country of origin proud, it is organizations like DIL which have spearheaded the cause of fighting illiteracy in Pakistan with resources gathered from the overseas Pakistani community and their friends. And it is for this reason that this coming event should once again bring together the “Who’s who” from within Pakistanis and Pakistani-Americans. Illiteracy and ignorance is a sure path to a life of poverty in Pakistan or for that matter anywhere. The Abbasis (Sohaib and Sara) have already done more than their share towards spreading the spread of knowledge about Islam here in the US by recently funding/initiating an Islamic Studies Chair at Stanford University. Now Sara and her group of friends are back to helping people in Pakistan.
In 2001 Sara Abbasi had this to say about her first effort; “Just as importantly, DIL is working to break the ingrained social taboos that discourage female literacy. This indeed is the noblest of causes. In the words of Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him),
“the mother’s lap is the first school”. Only through such efforts will the next generation of Pakistanis improve, not just their own lives but the entire community around them”, said Mrs. Abbasi.
During the 2002 program it was mentioned that DIL is currently operating in Orangi (outside Karachi), Khairpur (Sindh), Dir (NWFP) and Mianwali (Punjab). There is also the hope that a new project in Baluchistan will be in full operation soon. Currently 200 schools are being operated by DIL with over 8000 children enrolled. What DIL is trying to do is change despair to hope and to bring a confident smile to the faces of young children and wipe away their tears that the embarrassment of illiteracy brings to their lives.
Tickets to the event are not cheap ($100 to $150) but the cause is more than worthy. So if you would like to attend or assist in any way please call (650) 323-6080 or (510) 651-3088. Please do not miss this opportunity to help some very poor in Pakistan get access to education. Corporate Sponsorship is available for $2000 & Patron Tables for $1500 (call for additional details). Please send your checks to 38 Monte Vista Avenue Atherton CA 94027.
You can also contact DIL San Francisco via email at dil_sf@yahoo.com
#11 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on March 14, 2004 6:30:28 am
Omar, you have picked up a good cause. My personal Thanks.
Both our politicians & Generals have been regularly compromising with the Mulla for the sake of their Chair. Getting our Text books factual & confining Islam to only Islamiat was too minor an issue for them to get the Mulla annoyed.
Bhutto, Zia, Musharraf are all to blame. And it was Nawaz Shreef who made Death compulsory for Blasphemy offence. Even Banazir keeps trying to keep her Dupatta on her head and keep rollong the beads of her rosary. (nothing wrong with it except that the intent appears to be politicle based)
The only Pakistani political leader who has the courage to take an open stand against the Mulla, without the ifs and butts, is Altaf Hussain of the MQM - and he regularly does it.
He is followed by the stance of the nationalist parties of Frontier, Sind & Baluchistan. PPP is next.
Please do not expect the Army or PML to do anything concrete on this issue.
#10 Posted by rsridhar on March 14, 2004 6:30:28 am
re: Pak`s literacy
Pak`s literacy is abysmal. This is from the NY times:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00D13F63C5E0C728FDDAA0894DA404482
``...barely third of Pakistan`s population is literate, at least 30 million children are not in school and 6 million of 8 million primary-school-age children not in school are girls; education spending is now barely two percent of GNP, compared with 17 percent in Bangladesh and more than 20 percent in Iran and Turkey; 40 percent of Pakistan`s budget goes to pay staggering $38-billion foreign debt...``
India`s record in literacy is abysmal too. but it has improved in the last several years: http://nwapp.emirates.net.ae/pls/std_news/EPLayout2.Article?p_ParentMenu=1007&p_Menu=1007&p_Country_ID=0&p_MenuLevel=2&p_NEWS_ID=28623
``UNICEF recently said there were about 65 million out-of-school girls globally -- and of these, more than half lived in India.``
``India has improved the overall literacy rate from 52 percent in 1991 to65 percent in 2001 and female literacy has increased from 39 to 54 percent during this period.``
``Pakistan achieved 5.5 percent economic growth in2002 - 2003yet two-thirds of Pakistani girls over 10 are unable to read or write compared with 40 percent of boys in the same age group, according to a 2001- 2002government survey.``
A repsonsive governance is important. Army rule and lack of community leaders have seen to it that Pak is not making much headways. Same problems in much of the ``Cowbelt`` in India. Corrupton, lack of responsible local governance (at community level) have resulted in ``Ghost schools`` and lack of educational activity in schools in UP and other BIMARU states. Southern states are doing much better, with Kerala taking the lead.
Among the South Asian countries, Srilanka has the highest literacy rate (more than 90%) and Nepal the lowest (less than 30%).
Despite being a democrazy, India has not seen much increase in literacy in the last 50 years. Recently, a bill was passed making Primary education a fundamental right but the onus is on the parents to enforce the law. This is a joke since most poor parents would not have the means to go to court to get their children educated.
Kerala model may be worth emulating. 100% literacy was achieved by making it a people`s movement. NGOs need to be involved. It is shameful that much of South Asia is mired in poverty and illitereacy.
Sridhar
Pak`s literacy is abysmal. This is from the NY times:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00D13F63C5E0C728FDDAA0894DA404482
``...barely third of Pakistan`s population is literate, at least 30 million children are not in school and 6 million of 8 million primary-school-age children not in school are girls; education spending is now barely two percent of GNP, compared with 17 percent in Bangladesh and more than 20 percent in Iran and Turkey; 40 percent of Pakistan`s budget goes to pay staggering $38-billion foreign debt...``
India`s record in literacy is abysmal too. but it has improved in the last several years: http://nwapp.emirates.net.ae/pls/std_news/EPLayout2.Article?p_ParentMenu=1007&p_Menu=1007&p_Country_ID=0&p_MenuLevel=2&p_NEWS_ID=28623
``UNICEF recently said there were about 65 million out-of-school girls globally -- and of these, more than half lived in India.``
``India has improved the overall literacy rate from 52 percent in 1991 to65 percent in 2001 and female literacy has increased from 39 to 54 percent during this period.``
``Pakistan achieved 5.5 percent economic growth in2002 - 2003yet two-thirds of Pakistani girls over 10 are unable to read or write compared with 40 percent of boys in the same age group, according to a 2001- 2002government survey.``
A repsonsive governance is important. Army rule and lack of community leaders have seen to it that Pak is not making much headways. Same problems in much of the ``Cowbelt`` in India. Corrupton, lack of responsible local governance (at community level) have resulted in ``Ghost schools`` and lack of educational activity in schools in UP and other BIMARU states. Southern states are doing much better, with Kerala taking the lead.
Among the South Asian countries, Srilanka has the highest literacy rate (more than 90%) and Nepal the lowest (less than 30%).
Despite being a democrazy, India has not seen much increase in literacy in the last 50 years. Recently, a bill was passed making Primary education a fundamental right but the onus is on the parents to enforce the law. This is a joke since most poor parents would not have the means to go to court to get their children educated.
Kerala model may be worth emulating. 100% literacy was achieved by making it a people`s movement. NGOs need to be involved. It is shameful that much of South Asia is mired in poverty and illitereacy.
Sridhar
#9 Posted by MantoLives on March 14, 2004 6:30:27 am
ferozk
I agree with your points. The issue of partition is over, and TNT should`ve been discarded on day 1... Pakistan is a nation consisting of Sub-national groups in a federation... this requires to be cultivated amongst the youth. However the issue of history is not the only problem with our educational system, and I think Mr. Qureshi has exhibited it quite well.
-YLH
I agree with your points. The issue of partition is over, and TNT should`ve been discarded on day 1... Pakistan is a nation consisting of Sub-national groups in a federation... this requires to be cultivated amongst the youth. However the issue of history is not the only problem with our educational system, and I think Mr. Qureshi has exhibited it quite well.
-YLH
#8 Posted by ferozk on March 14, 2004 12:35:53 am
The educational system in Pakistan needs to be created towards providing instructions in critical thinking. The present educational system is outmoded and geared towards an apologia for the state`s powers and for creating a citizenship, which is non-questioning and thus, removed from demanding accountability from the state. The eduction and its instructions in Pakistan suffers from an insecurity, which makes it very scared to question the official wisdom. The policy of nationalization of the education in the 1970s, though for noble intentions, created a morass of confusion, because bureaucrats cannot be subsituted for educationalists. Lastly, education in Pakistan became an extension of politics and this situation destroyed any sense of independence, as the nature of instructions was more devoted towards rationalizing a political philosophy and than making it understandable.
Secondly, the topics of Pakistan Studies and Islamiat have done more harm to the cause of education in Pakistan than anything else, because these subjects are politically biased and are generally used to reason a particular form of philosophical intent. Both these subjects do not teach, as much as they justify an agrument for Pakistan. What the ``babus`` in the education ministry do not understand is that Pakistan has evolved dramatically since 1947 and no longer needs a justification for anything. What Pakistan needs is an unbiased review of its national history within the context of its local and regional histories, which frames the issues facing Pakistan in the future and how to resolve them intelligently.
It is time to forget the Two-Nation-Theory and to keep making arguments justifying a demand for Pakistan. The logic of TNT has to be discarded, because Pakistan cannot be further sub-divided into new states and an intellectual synergy has to be created, which seeks the confluence of Pakistan`s regional history with the gambit of its national existence; which compliments the idea of provincial harmony. For that to happen, Pakistan has to trace the origins of its beginings from the pre-Islamic history and consider the factors, which have the shaped the identities of its provincial characters and thus, realize that its common ancestoral antecedents.
P.S.: On a sarcastic note, as a CBM in Indo-Pak ties, only Indians should teach history about Pakistan and only Pakistanis should teach Indian history and this way, there will be a healthy balance and sense of understanding in both nations about each other`s past. lol
Ciao
Secondly, the topics of Pakistan Studies and Islamiat have done more harm to the cause of education in Pakistan than anything else, because these subjects are politically biased and are generally used to reason a particular form of philosophical intent. Both these subjects do not teach, as much as they justify an agrument for Pakistan. What the ``babus`` in the education ministry do not understand is that Pakistan has evolved dramatically since 1947 and no longer needs a justification for anything. What Pakistan needs is an unbiased review of its national history within the context of its local and regional histories, which frames the issues facing Pakistan in the future and how to resolve them intelligently.
It is time to forget the Two-Nation-Theory and to keep making arguments justifying a demand for Pakistan. The logic of TNT has to be discarded, because Pakistan cannot be further sub-divided into new states and an intellectual synergy has to be created, which seeks the confluence of Pakistan`s regional history with the gambit of its national existence; which compliments the idea of provincial harmony. For that to happen, Pakistan has to trace the origins of its beginings from the pre-Islamic history and consider the factors, which have the shaped the identities of its provincial characters and thus, realize that its common ancestoral antecedents.
P.S.: On a sarcastic note, as a CBM in Indo-Pak ties, only Indians should teach history about Pakistan and only Pakistanis should teach Indian history and this way, there will be a healthy balance and sense of understanding in both nations about each other`s past. lol
Ciao
#7 Posted by freethinker on March 13, 2004 1:21:33 pm
More articles on quality of education in Pakistan, and how to improve it should be published. This is extremely important. The objective should not be simply to criticise but to point out how the standard of education can be enhanced. There is a great deal needed to be done in the field of science and mathematics education both at shool and university levels. We, in Pakistan, are at least a century, if not more, behind in science education than the western schools. Kids should be encouraged to think creatively right from the beginning. Spoon-fed and uncritical education should be discouraged. Analytical and skeptical attitudes should be nurtured.
This is not an easy task in view of the outdated and sub-standard textbooks which are prescribed at various levels and the outdated teachers who themselves need re-education. Be that as it may. The writers should keep pounding on the facts in which our education is lacking. Let us hope it will make an impression on the policy makers in Pakistan. The important thing is that the writers need not be malicious; they should write in a matter of fact and down to earth manner.
At the same time, emphasis should be placed on making teaching an honorable and worthwhile profession.
Mohammad Gill
This is not an easy task in view of the outdated and sub-standard textbooks which are prescribed at various levels and the outdated teachers who themselves need re-education. Be that as it may. The writers should keep pounding on the facts in which our education is lacking. Let us hope it will make an impression on the policy makers in Pakistan. The important thing is that the writers need not be malicious; they should write in a matter of fact and down to earth manner.
At the same time, emphasis should be placed on making teaching an honorable and worthwhile profession.
Mohammad Gill
#6 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2004 12:27:30 pm
Response no.1 shows us exactly what some people are obsessed with on this website. This article has steered clear from all the Paki-bashing and useless repetition of the same old same old that is discussed by the so called intellectuals on this website. Kudos once again to the writer for bringing out the real issues with our education system and not the ones that seem to win brownie points with our loveable neighbors. To inculcate a spirit of questioning, and a thirst for effective knowledge is what an educational system should do... and that is what we need to be focusing on. I agree with Zakkk`s comment about Islamiat as well...
Agha Khan University is evolving the HSSC system of its own modelled after the British GCE, GCSE, and IGCSE syllabi... this will provide a cheap and quality alternative for Pakistani students ...
-YLH
#5 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2004 12:27:30 pm
PS:
WRT #1
What can one say of those who are paranoid beyond belief. A few years ago an Indian friend of mine, a thorough moderate and a gentleman otherwise, was here in Pakistan.... I showed up him the prescribed Longman`s History book for GCE A Level (London) in 20th Century History that I had studied in high school. After looking through the section on partition of India, hardly two paragraphs in a whole book, he dismissed the entire book as Paki-propaganda... and wouldn`t hear anything otherwise.
The irony is that the book was written by an Englishman, was published by Longman, and has been on the prescribed syllabus for GCE A levels world wide. We Pakis are amazing propagandists...
#4 Posted by rozaiba on March 13, 2004 10:50:46 am
Very good article. The part where students aren`t encouraged to think beyond the obvious was very true. `Thinking` is left for the teachers to inspire- and most could care less.
#3 Posted by Zakkk on March 13, 2004 10:50:46 am
I think our books should reflect more on local history and national history. I think one of the worst acses of education abuse is making Islamiat and Pakistan studies compulsory at hssc and at a bachelors level. It is a ridiculous sight seeing medical students lose the top position in class in their first professional because another student cheated in Pak studies!
#2 Posted by MantoLives on March 13, 2004 9:37:41 am
This is a brilliant article... because it addresses real issues with our textbooks and not the artificial ones constructed by the Pak-bashers on this website. The world is leaving us behind... we are guilty of not giving our young people a vision for the future ... of progress and success.... and therein lies our greatest failure. We need to inculcate positive values, and create knowledgeable, thinking, self confident, and law abiding citizens of Pakistan and the world.
#1 Posted by satyamvada on March 13, 2004 9:37:40 am
Now the usual suspects will tell us how Islam is very peaceful and how the
koran is essential for biology education.
Go figure !
http://www.dawn.com/2004/03/13/top1.htm
Govt apologises over remarks in NA
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, March 12: An opposition protest walkout from the National Assembly on Friday forced a government apology in what seems to be brewing controversy over how much jihad should be taught in the country`s schools and colleges.
All opposition parties, despite their own known differences over Islamization, joined the MMA-led walkout to protest against a parliamentary secretary`s remarks during the question hour, which was followed by more opposition criticism of army interference in politics on the second day of a debate on President Pervez Musharraf`s Jan 17 address to parliament.
While members of the ARD and its allies returned after a few minutes, those of the MMA stayed away until Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed persuaded them back into the house to hear his apology for the remarks by education parliamentary secretary Dewan Syed Jafar Hussain justifying the omission of some Quranic verses from biology textbooks.
``The inclusion of Quranic verses is not a requirement of curriculum,`` said a written reply from Education Minister Zubaida Jalal in reply to a question from Laiq Khan (MMA, Sindh) about whether and why Quranic verses had been omitted from biology books for the intermediate first year.
``However, in this case, the Sindh Textbook Board has shifted Quranic verses from the book of biology for classes XI-XII to the book of biology for classes IX-X,`` the minister said.
While answering supplementary questions from MMA members, parliamentary secretary Jafar Hussain denied their charge that the government was omitting verses about jihad and Christians and Jews to meet what they called US conditions for helping the country`s education sector.
The walkout was provoked by one of his remarks that questioned the relevance of certain verses to biology.
``I seek apology if their sentiments are injured,`` the information minister said after the MMA members returned to the house following a blistering attack on the president`s policies by PML-N`s Khwaja Asif at the start of the debate on presidential address.
MMA`s Hafiz Hussain Ahmed said the minister had assured the protesters that the objectionable remarks by the parliamentary secretary would be expunged from the house proceedings and that his colleagues reserved the right to move a privilege motion on the issue.
Sheikh Rashid said no true Muslim could renounce jihad ``which is a must for Muslims when the time comes``. But he did not say if he had assured the protesters about expunction of the remarks nor did the speaker issued any such order.
Main speech of the day was from PPP stalwart Aitzaz Ahsan, who accused the government of mishandling the nuclear proliferation issue and endangering Pakistan`s nuclear assets, which he said could now fall under a ``dual control`` like a bank locker that would deny Islamabad independence of action.
He said instead of putting the whole responsibility on scientists, the government should have avoided immediate external pressures by referring the issue to an inquiry by three Supreme Court judges.
He also proposed an inquiry into what he called the ``judicial murder`` of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto after one of the former Supreme Court judges who convicted him, Justice Nasim Hasan Shah, admitted in a TV programme that the former prime minister was wrongly hanged and blamed the conviction ruling on alleged annoyance of the judges by main defence lawyer Yahya Bakhtiar.
Mr Ahsan called for cooperation between the treasury and opposition benches to revive supremacy of parliament that, according to him, had been undermined by Gen Musharraf.
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