ravikanth challagulla March 21, 2004
#41 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2004 2:47:29 pm
There was report on river linking under ``Water Resources Minsitry``. The minister is Arjun Sethi - he is from my constituency. This man has been winning that seat for ages. Dumb as a door-knob - hasn`t done sh!t in that area.
I was stunned to see that he is in charge of the famed Multi-Bn$ river linking project? What the heck is he going to do? If this is the calibre of leader we elect and put them in charge high=profile projects - what do you expect?
I was stunned to see that he is in charge of the famed Multi-Bn$ river linking project? What the heck is he going to do? If this is the calibre of leader we elect and put them in charge high=profile projects - what do you expect?
#40 Posted by harimau on March 23, 2004 2:05:09 pm
Ref plats8 #38
[Why only blame Bangalore for not having a good airport ? All the 4 major metros
have airports which rank among the bottom 10 in the world. They are inefficient,
callous, corrupt, arrogant and abysmally dirty.]
Check out the Cochin Airport. Built and operated by a private company, it is neat and clean. Though a small airport by every measure (number of gates, number of flights, number of runways - one, etc.), last month it passed Calcutta in terms of passenger traffic! So much for the one-time Jewel of the British Empire!
Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai could have attempted to improve their airports instead of just changing their names.
[Why only blame Bangalore for not having a good airport ? All the 4 major metros
have airports which rank among the bottom 10 in the world. They are inefficient,
callous, corrupt, arrogant and abysmally dirty.]
Check out the Cochin Airport. Built and operated by a private company, it is neat and clean. Though a small airport by every measure (number of gates, number of flights, number of runways - one, etc.), last month it passed Calcutta in terms of passenger traffic! So much for the one-time Jewel of the British Empire!
Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai could have attempted to improve their airports instead of just changing their names.
#39 Posted by arjun_m on March 23, 2004 1:44:11 pm
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#38 Posted by plats8 on March 23, 2004 1:15:25 pm
Mohar11,
Why only blame Bangalore for not having a good airport ? All the 4 major metros
have airports which rank among the bottom 10 in the world. They are inefficient,
callous, corrupt, arrogant and abysmally dirty. There was a series of articles on
Indian Express on this issue - obviously nothing came out of it.
Why only blame Bangalore for not having a good airport ? All the 4 major metros
have airports which rank among the bottom 10 in the world. They are inefficient,
callous, corrupt, arrogant and abysmally dirty. There was a series of articles on
Indian Express on this issue - obviously nothing came out of it.
#37 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2004 11:01:32 am
#35 by yogiraj
///.. elaborate the problems... but also solutions that will work ...//
Solutions that will work are staring right on your face. This is no rocket science. Pathetic morons that you elect as ``leaders`` just refuse to see it or implement it.
How many years should it take to set up a international airport in the city you are trumpeting as your ``IT Hub``?
India is not a cesspool of evils - it is a cesspool of bullsh!t.
Other day - I met a guy who went to Hyderbad for his software venture. And he had to leave the city a day earlier than planned .... because there was going to be a big political rally the next day, involving some half a million people ... which was going to shut down the whole city for good. And this is the state of affairs under capable leadership of Chandrababu Naidu - the great white hope of India.
You are asking what is the solution? Well .... why don`t you march your million fools in a rally in weekends - just like rest of civilized people do?
///.. elaborate the problems... but also solutions that will work ...//
Solutions that will work are staring right on your face. This is no rocket science. Pathetic morons that you elect as ``leaders`` just refuse to see it or implement it.
How many years should it take to set up a international airport in the city you are trumpeting as your ``IT Hub``?
India is not a cesspool of evils - it is a cesspool of bullsh!t.
Other day - I met a guy who went to Hyderbad for his software venture. And he had to leave the city a day earlier than planned .... because there was going to be a big political rally the next day, involving some half a million people ... which was going to shut down the whole city for good. And this is the state of affairs under capable leadership of Chandrababu Naidu - the great white hope of India.
You are asking what is the solution? Well .... why don`t you march your million fools in a rally in weekends - just like rest of civilized people do?
#36 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2004 11:01:32 am
And then there is this state orissa - not known for anything good that has ever come out from the damn place. But they did one good thing - they were the first state to attempt to reform/privatize their Electricity Board.
Now after some 6/7 years of fooling around - the whole venture has run aground. The american company AES which was handling it all - just quit. They couldn`t take the bull anymore.
The supply and service of power in the state as pathetic as ever. One of my relatives works in that venture - so he knows first hand the state of affairs. Corruption, thievery, chicanery, incompetence - it is beyond belief.
India shining - my a@$$!
Now after some 6/7 years of fooling around - the whole venture has run aground. The american company AES which was handling it all - just quit. They couldn`t take the bull anymore.
The supply and service of power in the state as pathetic as ever. One of my relatives works in that venture - so he knows first hand the state of affairs. Corruption, thievery, chicanery, incompetence - it is beyond belief.
India shining - my a@$$!
#35 Posted by yogiraj on March 23, 2004 9:26:06 am
Ravikanth,
Agreed India is cesspool of all the evils sirjee. No point argueing. Point to argue is what did/do/will you do eh??
Solutions with problems together jell well.
Where ever we find solutions, we should work it out. Where ever we could not ..we fail as of today. But there is future. Problems yes. But with potential solutions.
With only problems.... you have two choices on negative side ... Be a Rudalee in India..you know who? (FV.. only whine ... and be greatly admired by likes of you.. only whine. Whole India .. hindu.. BJP wrong wrong wrong ..Nothing wrong with Is... well only whine) or be a armchair NRI/Outsider.
Or elaborate the problems... but also solutions that will work
Yogiraj
Agreed India is cesspool of all the evils sirjee. No point argueing. Point to argue is what did/do/will you do eh??
Solutions with problems together jell well.
Where ever we find solutions, we should work it out. Where ever we could not ..we fail as of today. But there is future. Problems yes. But with potential solutions.
With only problems.... you have two choices on negative side ... Be a Rudalee in India..you know who? (FV.. only whine ... and be greatly admired by likes of you.. only whine. Whole India .. hindu.. BJP wrong wrong wrong ..Nothing wrong with Is... well only whine) or be a armchair NRI/Outsider.
Or elaborate the problems... but also solutions that will work
Yogiraj
#34 Posted by PunjabiZulu on March 23, 2004 6:46:28 am
Mohar
Those statistics about tourism are telling...India should really promote itself more to get in the dollar$ from the goray and Japanese...High end tourism...i have found that India attracts lots of these smelly middle class white students who want to come to India because it is cheap and moan if they have to pay for anything more than twenty rupees and dream of smoking grass in manali...it is almost like a rite of passage for them....we need to get rid of these cheapskate hippies and get high spending people in....Goa should be ethnically cleansed of its hippies for a start....get the money money money coming in $$$$$$
:-)
Romair
Am I introspective enough for you? Please let me know because you are the Hamlet of Chowk.
;-)
#33 Posted by SamiT on March 23, 2004 6:45:34 am
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#31 Posted by warpster on March 22, 2004 7:06:29 pm
This article is clearly substandard. coherence is not one of its virtues and the content is mediocre. wonder what the logic is behind the 4 stars!
If one wants a very detailed and nuanced view of India`s strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and pitfalls check out Arun Shourie`s (minister of disinvestment) series in the indian express.
the series is here
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#30 Posted by ironman on March 22, 2004 7:06:29 pm
Chowkies must have read Rajiv Srinivasan on rediff sometime. He`s seems a borderline hothead who occasioanlly brings up some surprises.
Sometime back he wrote that throughtout the history of mankind till about 400 years ago...India was the richest country on earth.
Anyboby want to contest that?
Sometime back he wrote that throughtout the history of mankind till about 400 years ago...India was the richest country on earth.
Anyboby want to contest that?
#29 Posted by mohar11 on March 22, 2004 3:27:58 pm
Here is some more reality check:
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=43558
‘(We get) not more than 450,000 tourists (per year)... China gets 25 million... It is a shame’
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=43558
‘(We get) not more than 450,000 tourists (per year)... China gets 25 million... It is a shame’
#28 Posted by Ballu on March 22, 2004 3:27:58 pm
Writer has raised very valid points and those who have never tasted ‘real’ India are crying foul. It’s alright that India is improving and at a good pace but what’s wrong in saying that everything is not well. Certain people pointed that writer doesn’t know how to write and should just remain a techie. Well, “techies” might not be “writers” but they sure know how to think logically and clearly. And why can’t you look at the content rather then how sentences are composed.
India is great country but there are many cheap weaklings the types who are in the front when they are with a group and pee in their pants when they are confronted alone. These are the people who never introspect personally so they do not understand the value of such exercise. Should we be proud on our achievements, yes, of course. Are we the best economically, socially….etc? No, but we’ll get there. But How?
Unless we don’t think or talk about ‘How’, how the hell are we going to get there?
Jai Hind.
India is great country but there are many cheap weaklings the types who are in the front when they are with a group and pee in their pants when they are confronted alone. These are the people who never introspect personally so they do not understand the value of such exercise. Should we be proud on our achievements, yes, of course. Are we the best economically, socially….etc? No, but we’ll get there. But How?
Unless we don’t think or talk about ‘How’, how the hell are we going to get there?
Jai Hind.
#27 Posted by sadna on March 22, 2004 1:21:39 pm
So where is the hard talk?
IMO the issue is, this is ``hard talk`` for the urban middle class person who already has a secure salaried job, housing, transportation, education choices for children, and socio-economic security. Talking harshly about such a group`s (group A) thoughts and beliefs is being termed hard talk about India.
Just talk to your household help about HER predicaments and you will get real hard talk . Talk to an unemployed graduate or small enterpreneur or small farmer or a man trying to file a police complaint or street child and get real hard talk about India from this group B.
What is needed is to get group A more mobilised on its own behalf and in group B`s behalf. A `society` piece like this also helps.
IMO the issue is, this is ``hard talk`` for the urban middle class person who already has a secure salaried job, housing, transportation, education choices for children, and socio-economic security. Talking harshly about such a group`s (group A) thoughts and beliefs is being termed hard talk about India.
Just talk to your household help about HER predicaments and you will get real hard talk . Talk to an unemployed graduate or small enterpreneur or small farmer or a man trying to file a police complaint or street child and get real hard talk about India from this group B.
What is needed is to get group A more mobilised on its own behalf and in group B`s behalf. A `society` piece like this also helps.
#26 Posted by Maharana on March 22, 2004 1:21:38 pm
Ravikanth,
Glad someone has finally stated the facts as they are (about myths 1 & 3). Although I`m not sure about some myths you mention as being so prevalent in india.
Anyway, i think the journey to success for india has just begun, but some people have already started behaving as if we`ve reached the destination.
P.S: Myth 5 sans the previous karma is republican party`s core ideology. The poor are poor because they deserve to be, are lazy and a load on society.
Adios
Glad someone has finally stated the facts as they are (about myths 1 & 3). Although I`m not sure about some myths you mention as being so prevalent in india.
Anyway, i think the journey to success for india has just begun, but some people have already started behaving as if we`ve reached the destination.
P.S: Myth 5 sans the previous karma is republican party`s core ideology. The poor are poor because they deserve to be, are lazy and a load on society.
Adios
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