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Some Hardtalk for Indians

ravikanth challagulla March 21, 2004

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#33 Posted by SamiT on March 23, 2004 6:45:34 am
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#34 Posted by PunjabiZulu on March 23, 2004 6:46:28 am

Mohar

Those statistics about tourism are telling...India should really promote itself more to get in the dollar$ from the goray and Japanese...High end tourism...i have found that India attracts lots of these smelly middle class white students who want to come to India because it is cheap and moan if they have to pay for anything more than twenty rupees and dream of smoking grass in manali...it is almost like a rite of passage for them....we need to get rid of these cheapskate hippies and get high spending people in....Goa should be ethnically cleansed of its hippies for a start....get the money money money coming in $$$$$$

:-)

Romair

Am I introspective enough for you? Please let me know because you are the Hamlet of Chowk.

;-)



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#35 Posted by yogiraj on March 23, 2004 9:26:06 am
Ravikanth,

Agreed India is cesspool of all the evils sirjee. No point argueing. Point to argue is what did/do/will you do eh??

Solutions with problems together jell well.

Where ever we find solutions, we should work it out. Where ever we could not ..we fail as of today. But there is future. Problems yes. But with potential solutions.

With only problems.... you have two choices on negative side ... Be a Rudalee in India..you know who? (FV.. only whine ... and be greatly admired by likes of you.. only whine. Whole India .. hindu.. BJP wrong wrong wrong ..Nothing wrong with Is... well only whine) or be a armchair NRI/Outsider.

Or elaborate the problems... but also solutions that will work

Yogiraj

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#36 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2004 11:01:32 am
And then there is this state orissa - not known for anything good that has ever come out from the damn place. But they did one good thing - they were the first state to attempt to reform/privatize their Electricity Board.

Now after some 6/7 years of fooling around - the whole venture has run aground. The american company AES which was handling it all - just quit. They couldn`t take the bull anymore.

The supply and service of power in the state as pathetic as ever. One of my relatives works in that venture - so he knows first hand the state of affairs. Corruption, thievery, chicanery, incompetence - it is beyond belief.

India shining - my a@$$!
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#37 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2004 11:01:32 am
#35 by yogiraj
///.. elaborate the problems... but also solutions that will work ...//

Solutions that will work are staring right on your face. This is no rocket science. Pathetic morons that you elect as ``leaders`` just refuse to see it or implement it.

How many years should it take to set up a international airport in the city you are trumpeting as your ``IT Hub``?

India is not a cesspool of evils - it is a cesspool of bullsh!t.

Other day - I met a guy who went to Hyderbad for his software venture. And he had to leave the city a day earlier than planned .... because there was going to be a big political rally the next day, involving some half a million people ... which was going to shut down the whole city for good. And this is the state of affairs under capable leadership of Chandrababu Naidu - the great white hope of India.

You are asking what is the solution? Well .... why don`t you march your million fools in a rally in weekends - just like rest of civilized people do?
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#38 Posted by plats8 on March 23, 2004 1:15:25 pm
Mohar11,

Why only blame Bangalore for not having a good airport ? All the 4 major metros
have airports which rank among the bottom 10 in the world. They are inefficient,
callous, corrupt, arrogant and abysmally dirty. There was a series of articles on
Indian Express on this issue - obviously nothing came out of it.



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#39 Posted by arjun_m on March 23, 2004 1:44:11 pm
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#40 Posted by harimau on March 23, 2004 2:05:09 pm
Ref plats8 #38

[Why only blame Bangalore for not having a good airport ? All the 4 major metros
have airports which rank among the bottom 10 in the world. They are inefficient,
callous, corrupt, arrogant and abysmally dirty.]

Check out the Cochin Airport. Built and operated by a private company, it is neat and clean. Though a small airport by every measure (number of gates, number of flights, number of runways - one, etc.), last month it passed Calcutta in terms of passenger traffic! So much for the one-time Jewel of the British Empire!

Mumbai, Kolkata and Chennai could have attempted to improve their airports instead of just changing their names.
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#41 Posted by mohar11 on March 23, 2004 2:47:29 pm
There was report on river linking under ``Water Resources Minsitry``. The minister is Arjun Sethi - he is from my constituency. This man has been winning that seat for ages. Dumb as a door-knob - hasn`t done sh!t in that area.

I was stunned to see that he is in charge of the famed Multi-Bn$ river linking project? What the heck is he going to do? If this is the calibre of leader we elect and put them in charge high=profile projects - what do you expect?
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#42 Posted by plats8 on March 23, 2004 6:22:46 pm
Arjun #39,

We are simply venting here. Not much different from repeating the ``Paki t-shirt``
line ad nauseum, is it ? :)

Harimau #40,

Never have been to Cochin. And let us not even talk about the passenger traffic
in and out of Calcutta. Every 2 years, Brit Air and/or KLM threatens to withdraw
their whopping 2 weekly flights out of the city, and the CPM goes ballistic about
how this is a Central conspiracy against the state !! It is beyond pathetic.

At Bombay airport some years ago, the luggage conveyor belt stopped midway
through the process because IA went on strike. Can you imagine the ridiculousness
of the situation ? I had to use all my powers of persuasion to retrieve my bags.
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#43 Posted by ironman on March 23, 2004 9:38:10 pm
#32 by gujjubania,

``.. Rajeev Srinivasan is my role model !!!!``

Good for U, gujju saab! He`s obviously a very smart guy, very knowledgable too. My junior in college (by 7-8 years I guess).

If only he`d quit being so `reactive`...and also temper his opinions!
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#44 Posted by soundmeister on March 23, 2004 9:38:10 pm
Mohar,

India shining your a$$ as you rightly point out, but those of us who still live here and contribute our 34.5% to the economy are beginning to see changes- some great, some small, but positive increments nonetheless- that non-residents can`t (or don`t want to) see. It`s convenient to sit in your armchair, bourbon in hand and laugh at what`s wrong in India, based on your Olympic style once-in-4-year visits there. There are huge battles to be fought yet, but we will fight them. And this is exemplified more so in Bangalore than anywhere else, where citizens are getting more and more involved in administration than ever before. Infosys` Nilekani and Wipro`s Premji, just to quote the media-savvy ones, not to mention the likes of Jayakar Jerome, trying to make a difference from the inside, as it were. This is taking a long time, not very surprising, given that political exigiencies make what could be irritants for you and me- farmer suicides, river water distribution, rural development- take precedence over international airports, smooth motorways, metro railways and the like. So while it makes sense for **me** to whine about the way things are- given that I in my own small way contribute to it- I can`t understand why you need to scream yourself hoarse over it. I detect undertones of defeatism, a condescending ``these natives will never do it`` in your rantings.

Shut up willya....
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#45 Posted by sadna on March 23, 2004 9:38:10 pm
mohar11 #41
IMO, the River-linking project is pure pork-barrel. And it is potentially an explosive issue in interstate/center-state politics. The way BJP snuck it in is also extremely shady.

I once watched it being being discussed on TV, for the first time I saw some value in Arundhati Roy`s political junketing - she was the only one who opposed it in a whole panel of BJP/Cong/etc politicians.
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#46 Posted by gujjubania on March 24, 2004 12:39:00 am
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#47 Posted by PunjabiZulu on March 24, 2004 2:06:55 am

gujjubania

~~the biggest opposition to outsourcing to India comes from so-called Indian-Americans and British-Asians~~

I dont think so. British Indians are very happy to see India doing well and currently enjoy chatting in Hindi to ``Steven`` and ``Julie`` in Delhi or Bangalore while they are settling their credit card or electricity bill.

Where do you get your information on British Indians from dude?



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#48 Posted by arjun_m on March 24, 2004 7:00:17 am
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