Criminals -- or Victims of an Unjust System?

Beena,

That is indeed a very informative article. Good job.


And for Ralph #3: Being a humanitarian does not make one ``anti-islamic``.

``Killing of women and kafirs is legitimate if the killing is carried out properly and the meat is not wasted but distributed to poor Muslims``

Your comments suggest that you are neither a muslim nor a humanitarian. Islam does not allow any killings, be of kafirs or of women. People involved in killings (or fantasizing about it) are really exercising their primitive instincts of aggression.

It is unfortunate that many so-called religious people in our society suffer from hatred of humanity.

``The elected Government of President Musharraf and PM Jamali`` Hmm thats not the way I would refer to the current government Mr. Ahmedzai.

A lot of people forget that the problems that we face whether Hudood Oridinace related or otherwise have nothing to do with Islam or any other religion. The biggest problems are lack of democracy, corruption, lack of justie and the nations apathy to injusties being committed.

The barrage of anti-Islam articles from non Muslims like Beena Sarwar continues. If Islam really disgusts you, who is stopping you from turning into a Kafir?

The problem with Zina, Hudood or anything related to Islam is not the problem itself but how Muslims implement the problem for themselves and for others. Killing of women and kafirs is legitimate if the killing is carried out properly and the meat is not wasted but distributed to poor Muslims.

Beena:

Thanks for a very informative article. As a first major step, we need information and exchange of information.

I believe that the process of getting rid of negative aspects of Hudood Ordinance has started. The elected Government of President Musharraf and PM Jamali has started the discussion process amongst the intellectuals and the women parliamentarians to inform each other and the public of the negative consequences. This information would increase the awareness of the public against a practice of the dark ages. I think this is the way to go. Slow and steady wins the race.

The other option is to go for a radical change. A radical change will definitely lead to a radical opposition. At present, Pakistan is not capable enough to take on yet another Change given the geo-political upheavals confronting us.

Therefore, information that leads to knowledge that leads to wisdom will lead us to earn riddance from the negative aspects of the ordinance.

I am sure that the prolific poster like tahmed, ylh and the urstrulies will be basent on this board. It will too hard for romair to accept the truth, that it is legal in pakistan to kill women.

Beena:

would you have comparative prison figures for men? and young offenders (whatever the critieria under 18 or under 16)?

....t