Asif Naqshbandi April 7, 2004
#17 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 7, 2004 5:37:50 pm
Aamir Bhai: walaykum salam, I understand where you are coming from and I appreciate and accept your comments.
Who was the Arab poet btw? Is it Abu Nawas? (BTW if you want to see beauty and Divinity in poetry you must read the Shaykh al Akbar`s Tarjuman al Ashwaq :-))
Who was the Arab poet btw? Is it Abu Nawas? (BTW if you want to see beauty and Divinity in poetry you must read the Shaykh al Akbar`s Tarjuman al Ashwaq :-))
#18 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 7, 2004 5:37:50 pm
malik99
then you haven`t read Imam Ghazzali rahmatullah alayhi`s On Breaking the Two Desires (Kitab Qasr al Shahwatayn) of the Ihya Ulum al Din translated brilliantly into English by TJ Winter (now Shaykh Abd al Hakim Murad) published by Islamic Texts Society, Cambridge UK.
then you haven`t read Imam Ghazzali rahmatullah alayhi`s On Breaking the Two Desires (Kitab Qasr al Shahwatayn) of the Ihya Ulum al Din translated brilliantly into English by TJ Winter (now Shaykh Abd al Hakim Murad) published by Islamic Texts Society, Cambridge UK.
#19 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on April 7, 2004 8:06:59 pm
Naqshbandi
Crush - fixation - You expressed it so well.
Italian - these Medterrneans with that wheatish complexion are devastating. They are a bit conservative too.
But why ``for a while at least, I became an infidel, lost in her presence to all else`` . It was completely natural for you. Everyone goes throughs it.
And that story about the boy friend in Italy is probably all bull. You could have at least proposed to her - what is there to lose?
I hope you do not wear a beard - bacauae a beard could be a red rag these days.
#20 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on April 8, 2004 2:28:45 am
(Al Ghazzali said that it is impossible to describe the pleasures of orgasm to an impotent man....)
Just a technical correction - men do not have orgasm.
#21 Posted by ballukhan on April 8, 2004 9:02:46 am
what a jerk! lost the battle even before the swords were drawn.
#22 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 8, 2004 9:02:46 am
Raw Dust: thanks for the Nabokov suggestion--i will check it out.
#23 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on April 8, 2004 9:02:46 am
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#24 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 8, 2004 9:02:47 am
nazar.....who told you men dont have orgasms?! you poor thing if you haven`t had one! as for the story of the boyfriend in italy i had asked around from people who knew her and it was true
i knew that before i approached her--and if you read the article again you will see i DID ask her out...and she refused...
of course it could have all been a lie but i dont think so...
kuchh na ho tau adaawat hii sahih...
:-) you are right these mediterranean types can be stunning...
i knew that before i approached her--and if you read the article again you will see i DID ask her out...and she refused...
of course it could have all been a lie but i dont think so...
kuchh na ho tau adaawat hii sahih...
:-) you are right these mediterranean types can be stunning...
#25 Posted by rafay_alam on April 8, 2004 9:02:47 am
``I spent most of the evening standing in the corner of the noisy, darkened, common room . . . elated that I could see the Italian beauty in the room, dancing away seductively . . . and, after a while I noticed my arms were around her slender waist. I could also smell the delicate fragrance of her mouth and I was very tempted to kiss her . . .``
I`ve seen this happen a thousand times. Mr. Cool spends most of the evening hanging out with the closest wall before coming on too strong to a pretty girl. Her boyfriend story was probably just a self-defence mechanism.
That said, there is something crushingly honest about this story. Which makes it endearing. But not quite enough, sadly.
Rafay Alam
I`ve seen this happen a thousand times. Mr. Cool spends most of the evening hanging out with the closest wall before coming on too strong to a pretty girl. Her boyfriend story was probably just a self-defence mechanism.
That said, there is something crushingly honest about this story. Which makes it endearing. But not quite enough, sadly.
Rafay Alam
#26 Posted by khamkhwa. on April 8, 2004 9:02:47 am
temporal...
...searching for two black cocks (roosters) for sadqa to get maulana aasif off the charges of khud-wasli and subsequent punishment of twenty one lashes...;)
...searching for two black cocks (roosters) for sadqa to get maulana aasif off the charges of khud-wasli and subsequent punishment of twenty one lashes...;)
#27 Posted by faizahussain on April 8, 2004 9:02:47 am
Assalam Aleikum Asif Sahib
After reading the teaser, I thought your piece had something to do with Imam Ghazali`s Ihya Ulum-Id-Din but I guess NOT. Interesting take on narrating your infatuation based solely on physical appearences. But do you really think justifying this by connecting it with Divinity was necessary? Does this even need justification; its only natural, isn`t it?
Take care
Faiza Hussain
After reading the teaser, I thought your piece had something to do with Imam Ghazali`s Ihya Ulum-Id-Din but I guess NOT. Interesting take on narrating your infatuation based solely on physical appearences. But do you really think justifying this by connecting it with Divinity was necessary? Does this even need justification; its only natural, isn`t it?
Take care
Faiza Hussain
#28 Posted by ZahraJ on April 8, 2004 9:03:07 am
Reading this personal account, I feel like narrating ``The Guy from Puerto Rico - a Greek God.``
Teaser:
His beautifully chiselled face, dark curly hair, carefully chosen words, soft speech, lovable big eyes, fair complexion, reasonably tall height, 101% decent mannerisms, intelligence and character shining through his eyes took me completely off guard the very first time we met each other on our very 1st day at work. We were paired up for the 1st day orientation lunch. Nature has a very interesting way of bringing two complete strangers straight out of grad school together. A very unique and strange chemistry hovered over our heads. By looking at each other, we could read a lot. There was a very strange connection that did not require words to engage. There was a strange mutual respect for our respective identities.
I guess I got carried away by reading Asif`s personal account...
Later,
Teaser:
His beautifully chiselled face, dark curly hair, carefully chosen words, soft speech, lovable big eyes, fair complexion, reasonably tall height, 101% decent mannerisms, intelligence and character shining through his eyes took me completely off guard the very first time we met each other on our very 1st day at work. We were paired up for the 1st day orientation lunch. Nature has a very interesting way of bringing two complete strangers straight out of grad school together. A very unique and strange chemistry hovered over our heads. By looking at each other, we could read a lot. There was a very strange connection that did not require words to engage. There was a strange mutual respect for our respective identities.
I guess I got carried away by reading Asif`s personal account...
Later,
#29 Posted by hamidm2 on April 8, 2004 9:03:08 am
``looking at or seeing something beautiful can remind you of the Divine ie the Creator in the sense that you say, ``subhan Allah! What beauty Allah has created!```.........
..........subhan allah!.........what kind of crap is this ?..............when i see a beautiful woman with olive skin, dark red lips and doe-like eyes all i feel is a stirring in my loins ......... but come to think of it, at my age, that in itself is a small miracle - so i guess a few subhanallahs are in order ........ so, subhanallah!
............ and who do you blame when you see a fat ugly woman from wisconsin ?...... satan?
..........subhan allah!.........what kind of crap is this ?..............when i see a beautiful woman with olive skin, dark red lips and doe-like eyes all i feel is a stirring in my loins ......... but come to think of it, at my age, that in itself is a small miracle - so i guess a few subhanallahs are in order ........ so, subhanallah!
............ and who do you blame when you see a fat ugly woman from wisconsin ?...... satan?
#30 Posted by cipram on April 8, 2004 9:03:24 am
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#31 Posted by ironman on April 8, 2004 9:03:24 am
Naqshbandi #16,
``...simply because sometimes looking at or seeing something beautiful can remind you of the Divine ie the Creator in the sense that you say, ``subhan Allah! What beauty Allah has created!```
After seeing that iraqi boy alive after half his body burned and both hands missing...did you say ``oye Allah, what the fuk are you doing oye ??``
(I bet not!)
``...simply because sometimes looking at or seeing something beautiful can remind you of the Divine ie the Creator in the sense that you say, ``subhan Allah! What beauty Allah has created!```
After seeing that iraqi boy alive after half his body burned and both hands missing...did you say ``oye Allah, what the fuk are you doing oye ??``
(I bet not!)
#32 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 8, 2004 9:03:24 am
temporal:
sunaa hai log use aa.Nkh bhar ke dekhate hai.n
so us ke shahar me.n kuchh din Thahar ke dekhate hai.n
sunaa hai rabt hai us ko Kharaab haalo.n se
so apane aap ko barbaad karake dekhate hai.n
sunaa hai bole to baato.n se phuul jha.Date hai.n
ye baat hai to chalo baat kar ke dekhate hai.n
;-)
(btw this whole ghazal by Ahmed Faraz demands to be posted on here in full!)
sunaa hai log use aa.Nkh bhar ke dekhate hai.n
so us ke shahar me.n kuchh din Thahar ke dekhate hai.n
sunaa hai rabt hai us ko Kharaab haalo.n se
so apane aap ko barbaad karake dekhate hai.n
sunaa hai bole to baato.n se phuul jha.Date hai.n
ye baat hai to chalo baat kar ke dekhate hai.n
;-)
(btw this whole ghazal by Ahmed Faraz demands to be posted on here in full!)
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