Jehad and The Curriculum

A GOOD report (when enemy loses it is always good): Another opportunity to rub salt into the hearts & livers of the Goraagoochaaters from Pakisland. If their master is humiliated, kicked and draaged in the streets they cry in anguish. AND that is GOOD.

It is the angli Soc. pol.sci type of ghetto education where such Goochaater-thugs are produced. Hound them , ridicule them , expose them, blow their anti-Islam cover.

Think Muslim. Think Pakistan. Think anti-colonial.


To hasten the departure of democracy-dealers and freedom-peddlers and thugs from Iraq promote & propagate this article:

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(This was 2 months ago! the number must be MUCH MUCH higher now. Even mainstrean press is reporting with PICTURES! No wonder the Thug Rumsfield says no more rotation--who is willing to go now Rumsy? More draggings and bridge-hangings are needed to prevent further enrollment & deaths.)

Cannon Fodder: US casualties in Iraq
Report by John Horvath
www.telepolis.de
Published: 10/02/04

A small profile of who is being killed in Iraq
Another day, and another two or three American soldiers are killed in Iraq. The body count still hasn’t hit critical mass yet, a number that will start to turn the public more actively against the White House as during the Vietnam War. Usually this number is around a thousand, for three zeros at the end somehow conveys a sense of largess. Coupled with this, another year or so and people in the US will get fed up; Americans like their wars short and sweet, not more than a few months or couple of years at the most, coupled with a clear and concise victory. In Iraq, it has been anything but that.

But more important than this, is the profile of those being killed. As the nature of wars change, so too do the types of soldiers being asked to kill and be killed. No doubt nationalism plays a part (or as Americans like to call their particular brand, “patriotism”), but this is less so than in the past. Most look to the armed forces as a “career”, that is, a quick and easy way to make a living, usually because they can’t find a job doing anything else.

As a result, many ethnic groups who don’t fit the WASP (White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant) profile find themselves on the front lines defending American capitalism from Islamic fundamentalism. Some make the choice of their own free will; others are cajoled my recruitment officers. And many of them aren’t even American.

Recruting Native North Americans from Canada

There is no level to which American authorities would stoop in order to enlist cannon fodder for Uncle Sam’s misadventures. This includes duping native North Americans from Canada into joining the US army. The lengths to which some recruiters would go got so bad that the Pentagon at the end of last year had to make a promise to the Canadian government that they would stop recruiting aboriginal Canadians. Subsequently, senior Pentagon officials warned their recruiters to stay out of Canada.

It’s not unusual to have native people from Canada serve in the US military. In the past many have joined up, in particular with the marines. This is because what is on offer is very tempting for a native person whose options and prospects are often limited. For instance, one recruit was promised a sign-up bonus of $20,000 and another $28,000 after his term of service to continue his education (that is, if he survived). Moreover, while in the army the military also promised to pay for whatever schooling was needed.

While all this may not seem out of the ordinary, what is different is that American recruiters have actually travelled to Canada in search of recruits as opposed to recruits crossing the border from Canada in search of the US military. They first appeared last January on reserves in Atlantic Canada, Quebec, Ontario, and at a number of native communities in the West.

The justification often used to recruit natives in Canada is based on a treaty signed in 1794 between the US and Britain known as the Jay Treaty. Canada doesn’t recognise the treaty, foremost since it was concluded between Britain and the US and not with an independent Canada. American recruiters are also under the impression that many aboriginal people automatically hold dual citizenship, which thus allows them to recruit Canadian native Indians for the military.

This over-zealous attempt to find new recruits on Canadian soil eventually sparked high-level meetings last February in where the Canadian government let their counterparts in the US know that they didn’t support such efforts. A letter was also sent from the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Washington to the vice-chiefs of the US military services telling them that their recruiters were to refrain from entering Canadian territory. The prohibition covers all activities in Canada, including recruiting at high school and university job fairs and on Indian reserves.

In response, the US embassy gave assurances that there isn’t and won’t be a policy of active recruitment in Canada. Yet with combat missions continuing in both Iraq and Afghanistan, the Pentagon has found itself in need of more troops. Thus, the recruitment offensive continues, albeit not as blatant as before.

Green-Card Soldiers

Aside from using native Americans as cannon fodder, another method being used to increase the ranks of the US military has been to recruit so-called “green-card soldiers,” individuals who are legal permanent residents of the US but who don’t yet have citizenship. This is not a new concept, but one that goes back for centuries – all the way to the days of Rome. Those who joined the Roman army and served their term of 25 years were then automatically given coveted Roman citizenship.

No doubt, the US is now using the same sort of trick, as many look for an easy way to get into the “land of the free”, not realising that they first must make it through the land of the dead and dying. Hence, in anticipation of a shortfall in numbers, Bush signed an order prior to the war significantly reducing the time that such military members have to wait before becoming American citizens.

Such moves have not only caught the attention of Canadian officials but have also sparked concern in the Hispanic communities of the US as well, prompting complaints that overzealous recruiters have been specifically targeting Latinos holding green cards. At present, there are over 37,000 non-American citizens serving in the US armed forces.

Previously, the US didn’t have as much trouble to find those willing to die for an unknown cause. Yet an aging population and strong economy have contributed to problems in attracting homegrown recruits. What is more, the US is facing a major problem finding enough personnel for duty in Iraq specifically.

As a result, some units which originally took part in the invasion and have since returned to the US are now being told they are heading back. This has led to a rise in the number of soldiers going AWOL (Absent Without Leave) after having seen first hand what duty in Iraq really entails. Some estimates put the number of AWOL American soldiers as high as 1,700.

Meanwhile, the psychological cost of the war grows. Last year there were 21 official suicides by US soldiers in Iraq,18 of them from the army. Another 2,500 who have returned have been put in medical facilities for “medical extension”, a euphemism for psychiatric problems, with an additional 7,000 who left Iraq prematurely due to stress. And all this doesn’t take into account the number who have difficulties readjusting to life back in the “land of the free”. Indubitably many green-card soldiers are now asking themselves whether such a price is worth paying for measly citizenship.

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Ferozk,


I bought the `New Syllabus` Pakistan Studies Textbook for Matric class (local stream) today, to see for myself the results of the much touted work of the Education minister which sought to purge the syllabi of bigotry... It is a mixed bag of success... and failure.


1)On count of prejudice against India, and Hindus, the book has succeeded in purging the old texts from Zia times... there is frankly no anti-Hindu reference in the book that were there previously... except one that I think missed the purging effort. The references to Indian treachery and deceit in the wars of 1965 and 1971 are absent. Indian Army is presented as the army of a country at war with Pakistan and nothing more.

2) As for the issue of Islam and Pakistan, subtle progress has been made There are references to Jehad as struggle for betterment... right off the bat a distinction is drawn between the ideology of Pakistan and the Islamic Ideology... though the argument doesn`t make sense... because the ideology of Pakistan is also defined in very Islamic terms. One mention is made of Iqbal being a champion of Hindu Muslim unity at one point. Islamic Ideals are described as Democracy, freedom of expression , equality and fraternity. Islamic ideology also holds that there should be no discrimination on the basis of religion caste or creed... but time and time again, the book contradicts it.

3) Jinnah, the anglicized, monocle wearing barrister-politician is conspiciously absent from the whole thing .... there is no mention of his early life, his efforts towards hindu muslim unity, and his stint with Congress which lasted 14 years... instead there is this mysterious and distant figure called Quaid-e-Azam who is born in 1937 and dies in 1947.


4) Chapters on the `Islamic Way of Government` have been preserved as they were. Islamic Sovereignty is drummed down again and again. Islamic Way of life is emphasized again and again... one one point the book says that Pakistanis need to pray and have faith in order to be good Pakistanis.... Chapter on `Pakistan a Future welfare state` presents a much better vision though ... but even it gets mired with the over-kill of religion.


5) The non-muslim Pakistanis are totally neglected in this book. They are no where to be found despite Islamic assurances of no discrimination.



All in all... though the book presents a much more moderate view as far as relations with India are concerned... there is no departure from the theocratization that Zia introduced in 1979.

-YLH

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mantolives,

``However... even that mythical Jinnah, single mindedly devoted to the cause of Pakistan, bent on the creation of separate state, believer in the Muslim state, etc etc, never advocated an Islamic theocracy.``

Very true, and a very clever comeback yourself. Of course, most who gave Jinnah ``mindshare`` really didn`t know what the heck a ``theocracy`` was (most probably thought it was simply rule by Mullah, or some sort of Khallifat), but was definitely under the impression that this Muslim welfare state Jinnah talked about = Islamic state of some sort. From what I can tell, little was done to ``correct`` this impression and solidify a position. Although Jinnah stated clearly that Pakistan was not to be a ``theocratic`` state, the role of Islam in the state was never really talked about.

Little was done to spell out a coherent vision of what Pakistan was to be, the distinction of an ethnic Muslim state and an Islamic one being lost on the layperson. I don`t think this was done for lack of care or idea, rather it was deliberately done lest the steam be lost in the Pakistan movement. The concept of an ethnic Muslim is still difficult to swallow, so I could imagine it being firmly rejected back then.

Anyhow, my point was that when someone gets the status ``father of the nation``, he becomes more than the man. He becomes this mythic figure in a mythic struggle. The myth is what is real, and what endures. What you say about Jinnah may be true, but the mythic Jinnah is the one people are in love with. To tamper with any part of that myth would shatter the perception of the man, sadly. People would rather dump your Jinnah altogether than alter the myth. Your Jinnah is a stranger to Pakistanis, not a hero.

Having said that, I don`t think it matters too much. Pakistan IS, and even the rationale for it`s creation has lost relevance (imho). The role of religion in the state is a future debate for Pakistanis, not one of history.

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The Text-book syllabi fraud. Even Condeleeza Rice admitted today that it is upon US insistence that the changes in the syllabi has been made. Muslim teachers should just teach what they think is necessary and pay no attention whatsoever to whatever is in the books. A great opportunity to turn every school into a fundamentalist`s madressa.

The goraagoochaater Minister is still lying through her teeth. The uniformed monkey is dancing to the DuG-Duggi.

Passing exam is just an exercise. Just as one does not try to get educated but only obtain a degree to get a job from goraa-universities.

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``#111 by echoboom on April 8, 2004 10:16am PT
A GOOD report (when enemy loses it is always good): Another opportunity to rub salt into the hearts & livers of the Goraagoochaaters from Pakisland. If their master is humiliated, kicked and draaged in the streets they cry in anguish. AND that is GOOD.

It is the angli Soc. pol.sci type of ghetto education where such Goochaater-thugs are produced. Hound them , ridicule them , expose them, blow their anti-Islam cover.

Think Muslim. Think Pakistan. Think anti-colonial.


To hasten the departure of democracy-dealers and freedom-peddlers and thugs from Iraq promote & propagate this article:

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(This was 2 months ago! the number must be MUCH MUCH higher now. Even mainstrean press is reporting with PICTURES! No wonder the Thug Rumsfield says no more rotation--who is willing to go now Rumsy? More draggings and bridge-hangings are needed to prevent further enrollment & deaths.) ``

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re: mantolives # 115

Thanks for the information, I appreciate it.

It would be encouraging if the content of Pakistan Studies text books is made neutral and it states both sides of the arguments. It is good to hear that biased and hate inciting references are deleted from the text books. Some of these references are pure lies and are designed to simply foster and more importantly instill and institutionalize a sense of hatred in the minds of the students.

For example, the standard text book in Pakistan Studies called ``Pakistan Studies`` is by Mohammad Rabbani. It combines historic rumors with political and ideological biases and thus, seeks to create a ``historic version``. The book portrays the Hindus and the Indian National Congress politicans as one dimensional Muslim baiting and Muslim hating people and at the same time, also portrays Jinnah in a one dimesional mode of being the lone crusader of Muslim rights in India. There is no mention of Jinnah`s as a politican before 1930s and his role as a politican, while he was a member of the Muslim League and the Indian National Congress. The book fails to account that the Indian freedom struggle was a process, which nearly spanned 200 years, but from reading it one gets the impression that the freedom struggle only involved the Muslims and not the Hindus, who are examplied as political opportunists siding with the British against the Muslims. Reading that book, one gets the wrong impression that Pakistan and the struggle for it started in the 1930s, when Jinnah returned from his British exile and ended in 1947 with the partition.

When dealing with the issue of Congress rule, for example, in India from 1937 to 1939 and seeking to explain Hindu hatred towards Muslims, it states that every time the Muslims slaugtered one cow, the Hindus would kill a 100 Muslims in retailation. I refused to teach that bit of historic falsehood and I would openly tell my students that it is a blantant lie and they are not supposed to give it any credence. It seeks to portray the song Bande Matram as being responsible for inciting violence towards the Muslims, but fails to mention that it was written by a Muslim member of the Congress Party!

As to the issue of Islam, given the political compromises the government has made with MMA, it would be next to impossible to make any changes and the ideology of Pakistan is another issue, which seems to assuming more of a dogmatic nature in our history books. Again, if you are correct in the interpretative changes made to Islamic references, then I am disappointed because these changes smack of a political need to portray Islam as being a moderate religion keeping it in tune, with Musharraf`s interpretation of a ``moderate Islam``. Hence, Islam is being used as per our historic political traditions and exploited once again to justify a political regime`s illegitimate claim on political power. This proves that Islam is simply a political agrument in Pakistan to justify a lack of legitimate political constituency and so, in that sense nothing has changed as far as Islamic references are concerned in Pakistan Studies text books.

The issue of minority`s role and history in Pakistan is another aspect, which gets periodically ignored. Credit should be given to them (the minorities of Pakistan), because they have remained loyal to Pakistan and have been more loyal to Pakistan than some of its self professing Muslim citizens.

The newly text books, with their revisions are nothing more than a politically correct version of history to suit the present political realities and such, are a disappointment, but at least they are a step in the right direction.

One question though; do the new text books list a detailed biblography of the references used or they are again without any bibilographic references?

Ciao

echoboom, firstly, I think that if you meant I`m Muslim as in a monothesist and that I believe in Allah then sure, Yup, I am. But i dont pray 5 times a day or dreams about creating a super-islamic state. Infact, we should be proud of our Islamic Hertiage but I dont think Islam is the way for Pakistan. As in, the question for us chowkies to ponder is ke should is be a source or THE source for the future of Pakistan? It should surely be a source, not the source. I`m more of a Pakistani than a Muslim. I`m not saying that I consider Islam or being Muslim any a bad thing, its a great thing. But what Libya and Iran did to us a while ago did kind of make my thinking go 180 degrees the other way. In fact, Egypt did not allow weapons and ammunitions to go through the suez canal to our help in 1971. Oh well, we didnt really touch the umman or Islamic nations in this debate but that really influences me. However, I think that culture can NOT be preserved even though if we try our best. We should try to preserve our culture as long as the preservation does not hurt the miniorities or women of Pakistan. mr.feroz is correct, the spelling of Wana is Wana. Jinnah was educated in London and he had a British accent. Infact, on speeches he would dress Indian but at home he would wear western clothes. He was a die-hard secularist.

Oh lord...did someone not warn this child about echoboom`s mental and spiritual disabilities?

re: vertex # 104

You are correct to state that the power of myth is much greater than reality and given a choice, people will opt for the myth instead of the reality.

You may choose to believe a myth or a lie, but your choice does not make a lie into a reality. If your choice is to support a Jinnah of your make believe, then you are ignoring reality and history is to be about objective facts. We can disagree on the interpretation of the facts, but we cannot disagree on the past events themselves, because they cannot be changed and they exist for all to judge them. The past speaks for itself whether we agree with it or not, but we cannot completely ignore it out of hand, as you are vainly attempting. We cannot deny the past no matter how much we may disagree with it. People have a right to believe what they wish and I am always willing to support the right of others to make their own choice, but believing some thing false does not it into a truism.

If you wish to believe a lie as your ``reality``, that is your choice. My choice is to believe in my ``reality`` of history.

Ciao

re: echoboom (various posts)

Jinnah was born in 1876 and he died in 1947. A statement about Jinnah`s life has to made over the entire spectrum of his existence. What Jinnah did or wear in the last 12 months of his life do not out weigh what he did before 1947. Jinnah, as a politican; as a leader; as a human being, has to be judged in light all his actions over the course of his entire life. A general statement about Jinnah cannot be made into a historic truth simply on the basis of what he did in one year of his life, out of the nearly 75 years which he lived. A lfinal judgement over a life lived is the sum of all its years considered and not one year.

As to your other contention that a Islamic teacher should disregard the course and teach his own views, this kind of shallow logic is an excuse for teaching prejudice, bias and bigoted opinions. It is this kind of twisted and ego-centric logic, which ensures that Pakistani schools are the breeding grounds for creating ignorant, bigoted and prejudiced students. It is this kind of logic, which creates segregrations of young impressionable minds and mentalities into ghettos of hatred and intolerance.

Ciao

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Ferozk wrote:
``It seeks to portray the song Bande Matram as being responsible for inciting violence towards the Muslims, but fails to mention that it was written by a Muslim member of the Congress Party!``

Bande (or Vande) Mataram comes from the book ``Ananda Math`` by Bankim Chandra Chatterjee.

#119 by echoboom

I have say goodluck to your anti-colonial muslim education. May you find answers to all the science and technology questions by reading ``the book`` written/narrated by a Camel jockey 14 hundred years ago.