Hoping, Without Hope

harish ji -- as they say `long dead` my ass -- such a typical response from the paki-hating indians (shri moharji, shri nikki ji et al. -- u all do us south asians proud) on this site when shown something like that -- now is it long dead harish ji, lets go and ask some of the people who live in gujarat, preferably some of the muslims, what do you say? --

An email from a friend stranded in Gilgit right now!

``Its about 11.30 on Friday morning. The curfew is still on without break. Last night, about 1000 people from neighbouring towns descended on Gilgit town with the idea to attack it. They were stopped at the 3 bridges leading in and out of gilgit. One bridge had to be blown up by army to keep the attackers crossing over. Army reinforcements from other parts of the country have landed in Gilgit this morning on 4 C-130 planes.

There is some news that the curfew may be lifted for about 1 hour for Juma prayers times. If that happens, and if it is considered safe, then will attempt to leave gilgit by road during the curfew break. ``

Sounds like a war zone.

harish ji -- its a shame that u cant see the argument in this -- pakistan has many problems but so does india and pretty big ones too but if any outsider were to come and read the boards here they would be misled by the one-way traffic -- and learn to deal with it when a pakistani tells you that india has some major problems --

Benauri Masjid

People living close to Benauri Masjid (near Guru Mandir) tell me that it used to be one of the popular and peaceful mosques of Karachi.

Until the Shamzai clan took it over. (Different sects` Mafias tend to take over and own different mosques)

The whole place was expanded into Madressa with 3000 students and completely walled.

The people have observed the religious terrorists running into the mosque and finding a safe haven.

And Karachi Police and Rangers are scared of entering the premises.

NHK

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ROTFL!!!!

Yep, I swear I will read ALL of M.B.Z.Isphahani`s ``Pearls of Wisdom`` before I would touch the Profound Fool`s rantings.

so does praful bidwai -- arjun --ever read him ... prob not

#79 by omar_r_quraishi on June 3, 2004 2:59am PT

The Gujarat issue is long dead. But it looks you`re still stuck with it.

There`s a story that comes to my mind. A sage and his three disciples are walking across a river. There is this beautiful woman who`s struggling to cross the river from the opposite side. The sage pities her and carries her in her arm and takes her to the other side. One of his disciples is shocked to see that his guru, whom he deeply respected and who has sworn brahmacharya (celibacy) could carry a young woman in his arms. Years later, when the disciples graduate, this fellow decides he must confront his guru. He asks him if it wasn`t shameful that he carried a young woman in his arms across the river. The guru says, ``son, I left her on the other side long ago, but looks like you`re still carrying her (in your thoughts)``.

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#80-Tmk
There have been many incidents in the past one year that have given the government enough reason to shut down all religious seminaries that are encouraging sectarianism. But the government has shown no inclination of doing so. And how can it when it is the Mush regime that has brought forward all these mullahs who are behind-the-scene of all these militant jehadi groups? If the government so much as hints at shutting down these semenaries, the whole Mush regime would come toppling down like a pack of cards. So the government conveniently looks the other way.
...Promises? I think our leaders have no such word in their dictionaries...

#81-rajesh8624272
I would also like to clarify the first sentence that I have written. It was a black day, not because Shamzai had been shot dead.It was a black day because the so called believers whom he taught the difference between right and wrong, created havoc in the streets of Karachi. Not only did they inflict damage on government property and made the lives of the citizens miserable, but also, they ransacked and destroyed the Quaid`s academy. The academy was the place near the Quaid`s mausoleum where all his documents are stored. Men who have no respect for the man who gave them this homeland have no right to live. But then, we should not forget the faith they come from. What they are taught at madrassahs puts religion before the state as well.
Now, everyday seems like a black day for the sad, broken and raped city of Karachi.

Farheen Zehra (tintingem)

harish_hyd

Omar Mian is a paki old-timer - a classic sample from a nation where people have no idea what`s going and what`s coming. Burdened with outdated ideologies, vile dictatorships and abundant propaganda - these folks are confused and overwhelmed.

Foolish to his boot strap - Omar mian has been beating around the bush for a long time. Of course he doesn`t have no valid arguments to offer.

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#82 by omar_r_quraishi on June 3, 2004 3:17am PT

This is the sign of a man who has no concrete counter-arguments to offer.

HP

Thanks for the info.

But I did mean that the rest of the info in AT is correct. There are three guesses as to who might have done it. All three scenarios are likely. We cannot simply ignore the culpability of Americans in this mess just because they are Americans and hence cannot do any such thing. Everybody should be a suspect, including Americans if we want to reach the truth.

HE

I wouldn`t be so sure about your comments on Europeans. Recently, a former CIA official opined on Hard Talk that Europeans are most likely to take Al-Qaida`s offer of a conditional truce seriously. He further opined that some off the record diplomacy with Al-Qaida is even now underway as we speak. There is precedent for that as well. After all, logically, there cannot be fail-safe defence against the kind of threat that Al-Qaida poses. You can only delay the inevitable but time is all they have to do their deed. In IRAs words, in a letter that they sent to Margaret Thatcher when she narrowly escaped an attempt on her life, IRA wrote ``We only need to get lucky once but you have to be lucky everyday``. Opinion poles are already showing what people consider as lesser of two evils - al-Qaida or the US-British-Israel axis of evil.