Hoping, Without Hope

harish ji -- its a shame that u cant see the argument in this -- pakistan has many problems but so does india and pretty big ones too but if any outsider were to come and read the boards here they would be misled by the one-way traffic -- and learn to deal with it when a pakistani tells you that india has some major problems --

An email from a friend stranded in Gilgit right now!

``Its about 11.30 on Friday morning. The curfew is still on without break. Last night, about 1000 people from neighbouring towns descended on Gilgit town with the idea to attack it. They were stopped at the 3 bridges leading in and out of gilgit. One bridge had to be blown up by army to keep the attackers crossing over. Army reinforcements from other parts of the country have landed in Gilgit this morning on 4 C-130 planes.

There is some news that the curfew may be lifted for about 1 hour for Juma prayers times. If that happens, and if it is considered safe, then will attempt to leave gilgit by road during the curfew break. ``

Sounds like a war zone.

harish ji -- as they say `long dead` my ass -- such a typical response from the paki-hating indians (shri moharji, shri nikki ji et al. -- u all do us south asians proud) on this site when shown something like that -- now is it long dead harish ji, lets go and ask some of the people who live in gujarat, preferably some of the muslims, what do you say? --

#99 by omar_r_quraishi
``pakistan has many problems but so does india and pretty big ones too``
omar, this is an interesting observation.

`twas 20 years ago today..

the golden temple in amritsar had become a home of sikh militants. the st. B was initially spponsored by MrsG and later supported by your govt. mrs G sent in Lt. Gen. Brar to take over, and paid for that by her life (she continued to have sikh guards, who got her). Lt. Gen. Brar still has a death-threat on him, his own Mamu from London had promised to kill
him.

clearly the prolems are similar, solutions seem to differ.

here is a rediff link about remembering that time.
http://us.rediff.com/news/2004/jun/03spec.htm

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CITY UNDER SIEGE

The Karachi Press Club invites you to come and register your protest.

Violence has once again cast a dark shadow over Karachi, a city where residents have already suffered enough. Brief periods of stability inevitably re-erupt into violence. Makeshift measures are taken and peace is restored, but only temporarily. Residents of Karachi feel angry and helpless.

Wear a black arm-band in protest and mourning; bring suggestions; bring yourself. Join us in our demand that the government make security a top priority for our city.

This afternoon is not being patronized by any organization or political party. Let this be a citizens’ event.

There will also be a screening of

“Doctor”

A short film about death.


Synopsis: Saeed Hussain is a doctor in Karachi, Pakistan. Many of his colleagues have been gunned down by sectarian extremists. Others have moved to safer climes, but Hussain has neither the will nor the means to. Driven by his wife, for the sake of their daughter, to face his fear rather than flee from it, he goes through the motions of a normal day. But even healers have no answers to bullets.

at

The Press Club

Saddar, Karachi

Saturday, 5th May, 2004

3 p.m. (sharp)

#97 by omar_r_quraishi on June 3, 2004 11:41pm PT

[as they say `long dead` my ass -- such a typical response from the paki-hating indians (shri moharji, shri nikki ji et al. -- u all do us south asians proud) on this site when shown something like that -- now is it long dead harish ji, lets go and ask some of the people who live in gujarat, preferably some of the muslims, what do you say?]

Why just the Muslims, let us ask some Hindus, Christians, Dalits, poor, women, etc. Just in case you don`t know, it is the poor and the underprivileged that are at the receiving end everywhere, not just in India. At least we in India have tried to create a society that does not discriminate on the basis of religion and ethnicity, and in spite of aberrations, have largely been successful. Your (and by and large most Pakistanis`) selective concern for the Muslim victims only shows how shallow some people can get.

And abusive langauge is the last resort for person short on arguments.

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#89
Dear Farheen

I thank u for clarifying me. That’s all

Rajesh - Mumbai

#82

Your point “shri rajesh ji -- what about the black days of gujarat -- what r u doing about that apart from venerating modi ji further -- leave karachi to us rajesh ji -- jai ram jee ki”

Respected Omarji

I appreciate your comments and leave Karachi to u. At the same time I do condemn violence in any form whether small or big. Two wrongs don’t make one right. My purpose of clarifying the author’s first sentence “Yesterday was a Black day” was not to score points or draw anything parallel about Karachi & Gujarat.

Rajesh – Mumbai

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no arjun -- but thats prob what someone with a mind like yours would think -- hey why dont ya go ask graham staines family if they want to watch a video of their dad being burnt to death by a bajrang dal mob, arjun?


nikki beta -- plz dont forget the 2,000 sikhs killed in delhi alone in a couple of weeks in 1984 -- tra la whatever :)

wow -- the paki-bashers are biting here -- meoowwwwww -- u sorry ass losers .........

Harish (Post # 92): I have been meaning to acknowledge this post, but I could not trace the post number. Finally, I found it :) Your underlying point is the main issue with many interactors on Chowk in general. It`s not one or the other. It brings up the sad reality that for South Asians accumulating degrees or being able to construct a few phrases in English ain`t enough. It will never make them absorb the depth that existed in their roots and to leverage that for their own well being. No doubt there is so much turbulence.