Textbook Questions

ahmadzai thanks yaar but yeh sirf website hai -- and i see no reason not to post such articles here -- at least im the lesser hypocrite, compared to the paki-haters who come on chowk --

jang reference where you said: ``Could you please post something regarding BJP saffronization. I mean real examples, so we can kind of compare whats the deal?`` -- DUDE R U FOR REAL -- india`s former science and technology minister Murli Manohar Joshi made it govt policy to re-write the textbooks, starting in UP and this was announced in large rallies all over northern india -- DUDE , were u sleeping at that time? what a question to ask!

arjun: ``Let`s get one thing clear...Most Pakistanis don`t oppose the jihadi ideology....Most of the few trying to ``clean up`` the books are doing it because the textbooks give Pakiland a bad rep and makes their already-lookued-upon-as-terrorists existence in the US just a tad more uncomfortable....sure there are a few people who really believe in cleaning up the books for the right reasons, but most still believe in the jihadi ideology...If that weren`t true, you`d have read a lot more against it before 9/11....``

wow -- arjun m -- from paki-hater to now paki spokesman ... yeh kaisi hua ....

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arjun_m,
``Maybe you need to acquaint yourself with the logical fallacies...Or you can continue to live in denial.... ``

I suggest you review the ``Appeal to Force`` section...might makes right, hey nah?

Ahmadzai #44,

``Nawaz and BB did not have the guts to challenge militant minority.``

Again, not what you said. You said their ``populist agenda`` (which, by the way,
any democratically elected govt would have) would prohibit them from
chasing militants. Nothing to do with guts - this would actually mean that the
population doesn`t want them to confront militants. They`d have to respect this
mandate.

#48 by arjun_m

Once the ``hunt`` in Pakistan is over, will they go home? :) You have to be too naïve to think that they will. Thanks.

#41 by ahmadzai
``Btw, at home, my family`s firm support to the present Government is exactly because ...``

i have seen this kind of language from many pakistani chowkies. is it common in pakistan for families to vote-support as a block? how does it work? does this mean neuclear family, extended family, clan or the whole jirga? is it also common in urban areas?

Ahmadzai,

Right now 3 Pakistanis are under trial in Australia for terrorism charges linked to Lahskar-e-Taiba. Nine Americans have already been convicted of LeT links.

Madrid bombings, Turkey bombings, Indonesia bombings all trace back to Pakistan. Your own former ISI chief Jaed Nasir gave a written affidavit to court on how the ISI gave material support to Jihadis from Chechnya to Bosnia during his term.

All these terrors links are not from America alone. It is from nations that opposed the Iraq war too.

Get used to it bachu. Today, Pakistan = Terrorism. So what if Musharraf bends over for Unkil.

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omar_r_quraishi
My posts were not addressed to you. And I have read other such articles by Pakistanis some of which have been published on chowk.

The fact that some adults felt the need to teach 7-years old to count corpses is however totally new. These adults had to believe they are fighting the final battle before armageddon if they thought it appropriate to teach children of war and death even in class 2 math. Thats got to be the earliest possible age, because surely in class I most children prefer to be either playing, crying for their moms or asking to go to the bathroom.

If this sort of slant even in math. (and not restricted to history and languages) is a new development, then it might be worth looking into who wrote the textbooks/who approved them/ who got the contract to publish, and put the responsibility where it specifically lies.

If this has been a generally accepted norm for several years, then there is nothing to say.

plats8 at 42:

Nawaz and BB did not have the guts to challenge militant minority. Taking on a militant minority does not mean challenging Islamic democratic parties like JUI of Fazal ur Rahman.

arjun at 39 and 40:

Tut tut. Your intellectual masterbation may please other gay fundoo Indoos on this site, but it does not impress me.

Most of your civilized world also believed that Iraq had WMD, that Macedonia had killed 6 Pakistani terrorists not the economic migrants, that Italians and Kenyans also arrested Al Qaeda Pakistanis (only to be realeased later along with release of many Pakistanis from Guatanamo Bay after proving innocent), etc.

The perception of people about a thief that he is actually a saint (and vice versa) may hold good for a while, but in the end reality does come out.

Btw, today Shanghai Cooperation Organization has given an in principle agreement to give membership to Pakistan.

:-)

Ahmadzai #41,

``something which the Governments of Nawaz and BB could have never done due to the following reasons:

1. Their populist agenda ...``

Meaning that confronting extremism is analogous to going against popular will. Not a
very pleasant scenario, is it ?

Omar at # 30:

Thanks for the comment. I admire your taking fundoo Indoos head on, but I think that by now you must have learned that Chowk is not exactly the right forum for posting critiquing articles on Pakistan like this one.

Btw, at home, my family`s firm support to the present Government is exactly because of the same reason - to take the battle to the extremist elements in Pakistan, something which the Governments of Nawaz and BB could have never done due to the following reasons:

1. Their populist agenda
2. Their valid fear for the backlash. Example: military struck terrorists in Waziristan yesterday. The terrorists first threatened of a revenge through Nek Mohammad and then struck back in Karachi today.