Textbook Questions

#17 by vertex on June 9, 2004 8:38pm PT

I presume you can figure out what is wrong with the rest of them.

re:#20 by ahmadzai
Hey Mullah,
Read and weep:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_10-6-2004_pg7_26
Excerpts:
``Supporting the idea of suicide attacks, he said Muslim youth would continue to wage jihad against the neo-imperialism of the US; they would blow up their own bodies with bombs. He questioned whether the September 11, 2001 attacks in New York and Washington had been planned by the US itself with the motive to create hostility for Muslims.``
Maulana Sami and you seem to share the same delusions. Perhaps u both smoke the same stuff that is peddled across the Afghan border.
Sridhar

DullaBhatti # 11

HA. HA. HA. Those were hilarious.

Omar

Thanks for sharing this Islamised version of Maths.

sadna -- i have no idea what you`re talking about, much of time u sound quite confused and dont know how to deal with a situation where a pakistani himself has written an article like this --
nooralain -- yes prob the questions r bad for any age but the context has to do with primary school books hence that specific reference

veeresh sahib -- u need to go see a psychologist -- seriously -- no offence -- because your obsession with what the pakistan does and doesnt do is only matched by your obsession with doing walkabouts

The funny part of the whole textbook thingy is that the Jihad is being preached in Pakistani schools to grade 2 students, but actually it is in shining India where Advanis, Joshis and Modis kill innocent minorities, run scotch free and even get elected to power by the extremist Indians having their adequate share of representation on this website.

sattar2 #18 #13
Yes yes the Nile will do.

It is hard to believe the govt is so desperate. Is this a joke?

And aren`t those rather big numbers for little children in class II to add, subtract, multiply(with carry) AND divide. There is something black in the lentils.

... I meant ``Islamic Republic of Egypt`` ...

This is nothing!

When the grown-ups go through the mental torture in professional schools reading the repeated rubbish on Kashmir and other issues then who cares about grade ii students. In Pakistan, professional schools are forced to include both Pakistan Studies and Islamic Studies throughout their 4 year course-curriculum. The attendance in these classes is close to nothing. In my times, students only attended these subjects to get their attendance in black and white and leave without any delay or excuse. These subjects should be optional vs. compulsory. No one should be forced to attend a class or a subject they have little interest in. Oh, how I wish the visionaries, who cared to insult the intellect of their youth by including the episodes from god forsaken times in the curriculum of engineering, are penalized. They should be held accountable for wasting our precious 240 - 300 hours that could have been invested elsewhere. Truly valuing time in minutes, hours, days and years has never been inherent in the nature of that system. Still, I wanted to highlight the agony suffered by the youth.

Hoooold on a sec....what`s wrong with this question? Why was it deleted?

* Question on page 21, ex. 2.1: In the month of Ramadan Ali
spent 327 rupees on Rooh Afza, 123 rupees on dates and 246 rupees
on fruit for Iftar. Find the total amount he spent on Iftar.
(Deleted in new edition)

Interesting article, as always. Questions which come to mind . . .

1) What does it say that is/was new? Or did the Pakistani media therein pick up a Pakistani textbook for the first time?

2) Who gives publicity to the fringe ````more conservative and obscurantist elements in society````, if not the Pakistani media?

3) If a Mullah Sandwich has a total of 7 participants, then what is the maximum number of insertions possible and in how many orifices?

Let us add the importance of birth control to textbooks from the Inter level......

I think what`s most important in this context is the participation of parents in running government schools. They are the biggest stakeholders since future of their kids is in question. Unless change comes through actual empowerment of people, it cannot be permanent. What’s happening is a shift of government policy due to US pressure. This has nothing to do with Musharraf’s vision, because he doesn’t have one. Thanks.

sadna ... don`t leave out the nile ... that river in egypt ...
(sorry, couldn`t resist)

HP Wrote: If we insist that text books should reflect liberal and secular teaching then fundos have the right to influence that process too

Fundos have a right to influence that process too!!!!! You really think that what was written in the article above is ok for children to study? Would you want your kids to study such things?

Has anyone done anything about it in Pakistan. I guess not as all the fundoos need to do is to grease someone palm and get away with whatever they want.

This education technique can be used positively too to reform societies:

Q1: If Hamid beaten his wife only once and he is in 3rd layer of hell, where will Shahzad go if he beat his wife 2 times a week?

Q2: If Maulana A eats 6 pounds of halwa each day, and his cholestrol is 350, what would be cholestrol level of Maulana B if he eats 3 pounds of kheer each day?

Q3: Rashid stole Minhaj`s bicyle and he was sentenced 3 years of imprisonment for that. If you stole Sameer`s scooter, how many years will you be sentenced in jail?

A closer look at the questions will reveal that their context and the references that they have seem very out of place for a student six or seven years of age. It should be noted that in most cases other than the content and contextual references, the language itself was riddled with wrong diction and grammatical inconsistencies.

wouldn`t these questions be extremely out of place for any student/person of any age? i personally would be more concerned with the content than with wrong diction and grammatical inconsistencies.

HP: so what exactly are you defending here? the right for such textbooks to have questions like these?