Omar R Quraishi June 9, 2004
#40 Posted by arjun_m on June 10, 2004 10:18:25 am
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#39 Posted by arjun_m on June 10, 2004 10:08:00 am
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#38 Posted by jang on June 10, 2004 10:07:59 am
#24 by einsteinwallah , and Ahmedzai
Could you please post something regarding BJP saffronization. I mean real examples, so we can kind of compare whats the deal? No allegations like ``these books teach hatred towards muslims`` etc. Real examples will be helpful. you may want to avoid sabrang or sahmat commie websites, as they dont contain real examples, just allegations and innuendo
thanks
Could you please post something regarding BJP saffronization. I mean real examples, so we can kind of compare whats the deal? No allegations like ``these books teach hatred towards muslims`` etc. Real examples will be helpful. you may want to avoid sabrang or sahmat commie websites, as they dont contain real examples, just allegations and innuendo
thanks
#37 Posted by Ahmadzai on June 10, 2004 10:07:59 am
Pundit rsridhar at # 26:
I knew what would be going on in your mind after reading my post - burn a Muslim to death with full blessing of sriAdvani or sriModi.
I knew what would be going on in your mind after reading my post - burn a Muslim to death with full blessing of sriAdvani or sriModi.
#36 Posted by Ahmadzai on June 10, 2004 10:07:59 am
harish-hyd:
``Even funnier is the fact how your pajama catches fire the moment someone (esp. an Indian) points out an obvious flaw in your land of the (not-so) pure.``
Ha ha ha. But I am already laughing at how fundoo Indoos come out of their mama`s saree taking advantage of virtual world and trying to score browny points against Pakistanis when an article like this one is posted on Chowk.
:-D
``Even funnier is the fact how your pajama catches fire the moment someone (esp. an Indian) points out an obvious flaw in your land of the (not-so) pure.``
Ha ha ha. But I am already laughing at how fundoo Indoos come out of their mama`s saree taking advantage of virtual world and trying to score browny points against Pakistanis when an article like this one is posted on Chowk.
:-D
#35 Posted by nooralain on June 10, 2004 9:49:49 am
welcome to yet another paki-indian love fest! please leave all weapons including your boxing gloves and your brains here. it`s my word is better than your word, and my des is better than your des. and you rotten scum don`t deserve to live jao kisi darya main doob maro. . . . .
velcome, velcome, free of charge. paise rakkho. tamasha dekho!
velcome, velcome, free of charge. paise rakkho. tamasha dekho!
#34 Posted by mog on June 10, 2004 8:10:50 am
O Omar está no hábito de abusar outros quando tudo mais fracassa. É um revolucionário verdadeiro como a roda de fundo de um ciclo seguindo a asa frontal só.
Habla Portugese Senor?
The Omar is in the habit of abuse others when everything more fracassa. It is a true revolutionary as the wheel of bottom of a cycle following the wing frontal alone.
Habla Portugese Senor?
The Omar is in the habit of abuse others when everything more fracassa. It is a true revolutionary as the wheel of bottom of a cycle following the wing frontal alone.
#33 Posted by 87msa on June 10, 2004 8:10:50 am
``.....The Quran would still be the place to go in times of spiritual or ethical turbulence/uncertainty, but scholarship of Quran should not be mandatory to be a good Muslim.......:``
You have raised an important point which most of us forget- one can still be a ``good`` and ``civilized`` person in contemporary civil societies even if one is not a practicing muslim. The fact that a namazi mullah can be a scoundral and a criminal needs to be accepted by us psychologically- This is important when we would like to separate the issue of `public morality` of what is `good` and `civil` in public living from what is `good` and `civil` as per the religious books.
You have raised an important point which most of us forget- one can still be a ``good`` and ``civilized`` person in contemporary civil societies even if one is not a practicing muslim. The fact that a namazi mullah can be a scoundral and a criminal needs to be accepted by us psychologically- This is important when we would like to separate the issue of `public morality` of what is `good` and `civil` in public living from what is `good` and `civil` as per the religious books.
#32 Posted by vertex on June 10, 2004 7:30:18 am
ballu the bear:
duh, yes. I presume you can figure out that the particular one I pointed out was in quite strange company....somehow I doubt it...
duh, yes. I presume you can figure out that the particular one I pointed out was in quite strange company....somehow I doubt it...
#31 Posted by rsridhar on June 10, 2004 6:29:56 am
re:#11 by dullabhatti
Ha, ha.
Here is more:
1. If one haseesh cigarette has 200 puffs and Mullah Omar takes 10 puffs in an hour, how long will it takes for him to smoke the entire cigarette?
2. If Indian soldiers kill jehadis at the rate of 50 per month, how long will it take the Indian Army to exterminate the jehadi vermins, assuming there are a total of 5000 vermins?
3. If Mushy the dictator bent over at an angle of 30 degrees to please Uncle Sam this time but could please him only 50 percent, to what degree should he bend over now to please Uncle Sam 100%?
4. If Mullah Sami touches his forehead 5 times during every Namaaz and is a devout muslim (doing 5 times Namaaz a day), how big will be the callus on his forehead at the end of 1 month, assuming 50 contacts with the ground produces a callus of 1 mm thick?
Sridhar
Ha, ha.
Here is more:
1. If one haseesh cigarette has 200 puffs and Mullah Omar takes 10 puffs in an hour, how long will it takes for him to smoke the entire cigarette?
2. If Indian soldiers kill jehadis at the rate of 50 per month, how long will it take the Indian Army to exterminate the jehadi vermins, assuming there are a total of 5000 vermins?
3. If Mushy the dictator bent over at an angle of 30 degrees to please Uncle Sam this time but could please him only 50 percent, to what degree should he bend over now to please Uncle Sam 100%?
4. If Mullah Sami touches his forehead 5 times during every Namaaz and is a devout muslim (doing 5 times Namaaz a day), how big will be the callus on his forehead at the end of 1 month, assuming 50 contacts with the ground produces a callus of 1 mm thick?
Sridhar
#30 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on June 10, 2004 5:39:59 am
yes, sadna, lets not forget though that the previous BJP govt made it state policy to rewrite (or saffronize as they say) India`s textbooks -- here at least the pak. govt is finally trying to do the opposite --
ahmedzai, the only way to deal with extremists anywhere is to take the battle to them -- unfortunately on chowk it doesnt happen --
ahmedzai, the only way to deal with extremists anywhere is to take the battle to them -- unfortunately on chowk it doesnt happen --
#29 Posted by harish_hyd on June 10, 2004 5:39:40 am
#20 by ahmadzai
[The funny part of the whole textbook thingy blah blah blah..]
Even funnier is the fact how your pajama catches fire the moment someone (esp. an Indian) points out an obvious flaw in your land of the (not-so) pure.
[The funny part of the whole textbook thingy blah blah blah..]
Even funnier is the fact how your pajama catches fire the moment someone (esp. an Indian) points out an obvious flaw in your land of the (not-so) pure.
#28 Posted by arjun_m on June 10, 2004 5:39:40 am
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#27 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on June 10, 2004 5:39:40 am
addendum to post 21: address to veeresh sahib -- should NOT read ``obsession with what the pakistan does and doesnt do`` but rather ``obsession with what the pakistan MEDIA does and doesnt do``
#26 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on June 10, 2004 5:39:39 am
hilarious but apparently true nazar sahib - in fact i mentioned only a few of the questions -- there were many many more
#25 Posted by einsteinwallah on June 10, 2004 5:39:39 am
The system of prescribed texts should be abolished. Now Congress party is in power and they desafronize books, later BJP party is back in power and they Safronize books. Making and remaking of books is such a waste.
Why not the schools be allowed to select their own texts or write them with their own resources (like teachers, computers, copiers etc -- most schools have these, dont they?).
Or may be they can send out a list of books in each topic and let parents select texts democratically. Alternatively such process may be adopted at district level if at individual school level the process is considered costly or not accountable to wider public.
Once texts are selected either a department of scholastic evaluation (which could be in Ministry of Education) will do the testing of students at year end. Or a sister school might be selected by every school for this purpose.
Why not the schools be allowed to select their own texts or write them with their own resources (like teachers, computers, copiers etc -- most schools have these, dont they?).
Or may be they can send out a list of books in each topic and let parents select texts democratically. Alternatively such process may be adopted at district level if at individual school level the process is considered costly or not accountable to wider public.
Once texts are selected either a department of scholastic evaluation (which could be in Ministry of Education) will do the testing of students at year end. Or a sister school might be selected by every school for this purpose.
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