Omar R Quraishi June 9, 2004
#161 Posted by nb on June 19, 2004 8:04:35 pm
Omar, you`re denying previous posts. I know you`re a busy man, but still..it`s in black and white, but I can`t be bothered to go digging. You started with the dears, which I thought was very Indian, must be South Asian.
See you then, because you`ve run out of things to say-admittedly there weren`t a lot to start with.
See you then, because you`ve run out of things to say-admittedly there weren`t a lot to start with.
#162 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on June 21, 2004 6:44:46 am
wonder what the paki-bashers will say about this:
BJP stands by Modi
NEW DELHI, June 20: India`s opposition Hindu nationalists on Sunday shot down renewed calls to dismiss Gujarat`s hardline leader, who is accused of abetting anti-Muslim violence in the western state.
``There is no proposal to change the leadership of Gujarat at this juncture,`` Venkaiah Naidu, president of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), told reporters after a meeting of top party leaders in New Delhi.
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi had come under fresh scrutiny after police said they gunned down four Muslims, including a 19-year-old woman, last Tuesday because they allegedly plotted to assassinate the state leader.
India`s ruling Congress party has suggested that the shootout was a set-up to build sympathy for Modi and demanded an impartial probe. Former prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, breaking with his party`s longstanding backing of Modi, said last week that a BJP national meeting set to start on Tuesday in Mumbai would consider replacing the Gujarat leader.
Vajpayee also said for the first time that anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat, which left 2,000 people dead in 2002, contributed to the BJP`s upset election defeat in April-May elections.
But Vajpayee`s remarks led hardliners to rally around Modi, who had been facing calls for his resignation even from some BJP lawmakers in Gujarat. Vajpayee took part in Sunday`s BJP meeting, which was seen as an attempt to clear up intra-party disputes instead of airing them publicly at the Mumbai convention. -AFP
BJP stands by Modi
NEW DELHI, June 20: India`s opposition Hindu nationalists on Sunday shot down renewed calls to dismiss Gujarat`s hardline leader, who is accused of abetting anti-Muslim violence in the western state.
``There is no proposal to change the leadership of Gujarat at this juncture,`` Venkaiah Naidu, president of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), told reporters after a meeting of top party leaders in New Delhi.
Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi had come under fresh scrutiny after police said they gunned down four Muslims, including a 19-year-old woman, last Tuesday because they allegedly plotted to assassinate the state leader.
India`s ruling Congress party has suggested that the shootout was a set-up to build sympathy for Modi and demanded an impartial probe. Former prime minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, breaking with his party`s longstanding backing of Modi, said last week that a BJP national meeting set to start on Tuesday in Mumbai would consider replacing the Gujarat leader.
Vajpayee also said for the first time that anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat, which left 2,000 people dead in 2002, contributed to the BJP`s upset election defeat in April-May elections.
But Vajpayee`s remarks led hardliners to rally around Modi, who had been facing calls for his resignation even from some BJP lawmakers in Gujarat. Vajpayee took part in Sunday`s BJP meeting, which was seen as an attempt to clear up intra-party disputes instead of airing them publicly at the Mumbai convention. -AFP
#163 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on June 21, 2004 6:45:34 am
nb: ``I see your point Sadna....only Omar knows our innermost thoughts. Scary stuff, really. So the only people in India who are not RSS activists are Praful Bidwai and Dileep Padgaonkar? Didn`t discredit Ayaz Amir, Omar. If he`s going to appear on Aussie TV, people will see him-I thought that was the idea? Look, you complain about people being overly interested in Pakistan. Here, I`m not interested enough to go on Pakistani news sites.( I guess you would like to say that unless you read Dawn, you can`t really know what you`re talking about, wrt India, Pakistan, Iraq, the US, etc. Maybe I should log onto Dawn for my local weather forecast too). And you have a problem with that too? Which is it?``
-- yawn
plz read my posting #157 again (that is if u want to) -- actually i dont complain about people being overly interested in pakistan at all but what i do say is that they lack a perspective and which is that is south asia has immense problems and that pakistan doesnt have 98 per cent of them, which is what the paki bashers here seem to think -- dont know why that is so difficult to figure out (my opinion that is, which by the way u dont have to agree with, but then again look at what the paki bashers post) -- they are called paki bashers for a reason nb -- see your dear friend shrimati sadna jee just doesnt get it (#161 is proof) -- the point isnt that pakistan is very good and that nothing bad happens here but that hey look at india too and u will find it isnt all hunky dory -- but i understand because people like sadna are too obsessed or in a permanent anti pakistan mode and THATS WHY its okay to label them paki bashers ....
nb: ``You started with the dears, which I thought was very Indian, must be South Asian.`` -- errr its quite commonly used in pakistan too, more than most indians here would tend to think --
nb: ``Omar, if you have a problem with the language paki bashers use, please tell them or raise it with chowk. I am not a municipal safai karamchari to go about cleaning up everything. If I see a post that is objectionable, I will mention it. I refuse to take responsibility for the language of a whole group of people. Ahmed Bilal seems like a really nice guy, but is still kind of weird about India. That is what I mean when I said all of you are deluded when it comes to India. Maybe that`s hyperbole and some of you only have overvalued ideas. `` -- nb if i have a problem i can state it in my posts which i do all the time -- never asked u to anything about it by the way --
nb: ``The highest suicide rates are in Scandinavian countries and Finland, not generally known for their poverty-so I`m not sure what exactly your point is there`` -- my point, dear, is tha if pakistan has problems then india has some of its own too, and pretty big ones, and if pakistani interactors wish to discuss them here it shouldnt invite too much abuse or derision -- :)
-- yawn
plz read my posting #157 again (that is if u want to) -- actually i dont complain about people being overly interested in pakistan at all but what i do say is that they lack a perspective and which is that is south asia has immense problems and that pakistan doesnt have 98 per cent of them, which is what the paki bashers here seem to think -- dont know why that is so difficult to figure out (my opinion that is, which by the way u dont have to agree with, but then again look at what the paki bashers post) -- they are called paki bashers for a reason nb -- see your dear friend shrimati sadna jee just doesnt get it (#161 is proof) -- the point isnt that pakistan is very good and that nothing bad happens here but that hey look at india too and u will find it isnt all hunky dory -- but i understand because people like sadna are too obsessed or in a permanent anti pakistan mode and THATS WHY its okay to label them paki bashers ....
nb: ``You started with the dears, which I thought was very Indian, must be South Asian.`` -- errr its quite commonly used in pakistan too, more than most indians here would tend to think --
nb: ``Omar, if you have a problem with the language paki bashers use, please tell them or raise it with chowk. I am not a municipal safai karamchari to go about cleaning up everything. If I see a post that is objectionable, I will mention it. I refuse to take responsibility for the language of a whole group of people. Ahmed Bilal seems like a really nice guy, but is still kind of weird about India. That is what I mean when I said all of you are deluded when it comes to India. Maybe that`s hyperbole and some of you only have overvalued ideas. `` -- nb if i have a problem i can state it in my posts which i do all the time -- never asked u to anything about it by the way --
nb: ``The highest suicide rates are in Scandinavian countries and Finland, not generally known for their poverty-so I`m not sure what exactly your point is there`` -- my point, dear, is tha if pakistan has problems then india has some of its own too, and pretty big ones, and if pakistani interactors wish to discuss them here it shouldnt invite too much abuse or derision -- :)
#164 Posted by nb on June 21, 2004 6:57:54 am
Not yawning so much that he can`t write even if he has nothing to say.
hmm....
hmm....
#165 Posted by sadna on June 21, 2004 9:34:30 am
Forget about perspectives, for a journalist, you are remarkably uninterested in facts. Stating facts relevant to topic being discussed can not be called Paki-bashing, esp. given that the vast majority of Pakistanis had nothing to do with those facts.
#166 Posted by harish_hyd on June 23, 2004 6:01:57 am
nb and sadna,
Our man thinks that by pointing out the problems in India, he`s solved Pakistan`s problems. Bravo, the assistant editor!
Our man thinks that by pointing out the problems in India, he`s solved Pakistan`s problems. Bravo, the assistant editor!
#167 Posted by omar_r_quraishi on June 24, 2004 6:30:03 am
harish jee: ``#166 by harish_hyd on June 23, 2004 6:01am PT
nb and sadna, our man thinks that by pointing out the problems in India, he`s solved Pakistan`s problems. Bravo, the assistant editor!`` -- hahah dude you`re funny or what -- do u think we come to chowk to solve our country`s problems -- err no -- i dont think pakistans problems will be solved by doing that but paki bashers like yourself and others will know that problems exist in your own country too :)
sadna:``#165 by sadna on June 21, 2004 9:34am PT
Forget about perspectives, for a journalist, you are remarkably uninterested in facts. Stating facts relevant to topic being discussed can not be called Paki-bashing, esp. given that the vast majority of Pakistanis had nothing to do with those facts. `` --
wow , now i wonder shrimati sadna jee if you ever pointed out the relevance of a post to people like arjun or jay or your other fellow paki bashers in arms
nb and sadna, our man thinks that by pointing out the problems in India, he`s solved Pakistan`s problems. Bravo, the assistant editor!`` -- hahah dude you`re funny or what -- do u think we come to chowk to solve our country`s problems -- err no -- i dont think pakistans problems will be solved by doing that but paki bashers like yourself and others will know that problems exist in your own country too :)
sadna:``#165 by sadna on June 21, 2004 9:34am PT
Forget about perspectives, for a journalist, you are remarkably uninterested in facts. Stating facts relevant to topic being discussed can not be called Paki-bashing, esp. given that the vast majority of Pakistanis had nothing to do with those facts. `` --
wow , now i wonder shrimati sadna jee if you ever pointed out the relevance of a post to people like arjun or jay or your other fellow paki bashers in arms
#168 Posted by M.B.Z.Isphahani on August 10, 2004 9:23:12 am
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