Textbook Questions

``.....The Quran would still be the place to go in times of spiritual or ethical turbulence/uncertainty, but scholarship of Quran should not be mandatory to be a good Muslim.......:``

You have raised an important point which most of us forget- one can still be a ``good`` and ``civilized`` person in contemporary civil societies even if one is not a practicing muslim. The fact that a namazi mullah can be a scoundral and a criminal needs to be accepted by us psychologically- This is important when we would like to separate the issue of `public morality` of what is `good` and `civil` in public living from what is `good` and `civil` as per the religious books.

O Omar está no hábito de abusar outros quando tudo mais fracassa. É um revolucionário verdadeiro como a roda de fundo de um ciclo seguindo a asa frontal só.

Habla Portugese Senor?

The Omar is in the habit of abuse others when everything more fracassa. It is a true revolutionary as the wheel of bottom of a cycle following the wing frontal alone.

welcome to yet another paki-indian love fest! please leave all weapons including your boxing gloves and your brains here. it`s my word is better than your word, and my des is better than your des. and you rotten scum don`t deserve to live jao kisi darya main doob maro. . . . .

velcome, velcome, free of charge. paise rakkho. tamasha dekho!

harish-hyd:

``Even funnier is the fact how your pajama catches fire the moment someone (esp. an Indian) points out an obvious flaw in your land of the (not-so) pure.``

Ha ha ha. But I am already laughing at how fundoo Indoos come out of their mama`s saree taking advantage of virtual world and trying to score browny points against Pakistanis when an article like this one is posted on Chowk.

:-D

Pundit rsridhar at # 26:

I knew what would be going on in your mind after reading my post - burn a Muslim to death with full blessing of sriAdvani or sriModi.

#24 by einsteinwallah , and Ahmedzai

Could you please post something regarding BJP saffronization. I mean real examples, so we can kind of compare whats the deal? No allegations like ``these books teach hatred towards muslims`` etc. Real examples will be helpful. you may want to avoid sabrang or sahmat commie websites, as they dont contain real examples, just allegations and innuendo

thanks

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Omar at # 30:

Thanks for the comment. I admire your taking fundoo Indoos head on, but I think that by now you must have learned that Chowk is not exactly the right forum for posting critiquing articles on Pakistan like this one.

Btw, at home, my family`s firm support to the present Government is exactly because of the same reason - to take the battle to the extremist elements in Pakistan, something which the Governments of Nawaz and BB could have never done due to the following reasons:

1. Their populist agenda
2. Their valid fear for the backlash. Example: military struck terrorists in Waziristan yesterday. The terrorists first threatened of a revenge through Nek Mohammad and then struck back in Karachi today.

Ahmadzai #41,

``something which the Governments of Nawaz and BB could have never done due to the following reasons:

1. Their populist agenda ...``

Meaning that confronting extremism is analogous to going against popular will. Not a
very pleasant scenario, is it ?

arjun at 39 and 40:

Tut tut. Your intellectual masterbation may please other gay fundoo Indoos on this site, but it does not impress me.

Most of your civilized world also believed that Iraq had WMD, that Macedonia had killed 6 Pakistani terrorists not the economic migrants, that Italians and Kenyans also arrested Al Qaeda Pakistanis (only to be realeased later along with release of many Pakistanis from Guatanamo Bay after proving innocent), etc.

The perception of people about a thief that he is actually a saint (and vice versa) may hold good for a while, but in the end reality does come out.

Btw, today Shanghai Cooperation Organization has given an in principle agreement to give membership to Pakistan.

:-)

plats8 at 42:

Nawaz and BB did not have the guts to challenge militant minority. Taking on a militant minority does not mean challenging Islamic democratic parties like JUI of Fazal ur Rahman.

omar_r_quraishi
My posts were not addressed to you. And I have read other such articles by Pakistanis some of which have been published on chowk.

The fact that some adults felt the need to teach 7-years old to count corpses is however totally new. These adults had to believe they are fighting the final battle before armageddon if they thought it appropriate to teach children of war and death even in class 2 math. Thats got to be the earliest possible age, because surely in class I most children prefer to be either playing, crying for their moms or asking to go to the bathroom.

If this sort of slant even in math. (and not restricted to history and languages) is a new development, then it might be worth looking into who wrote the textbooks/who approved them/ who got the contract to publish, and put the responsibility where it specifically lies.

If this has been a generally accepted norm for several years, then there is nothing to say.

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Ahmadzai,

Right now 3 Pakistanis are under trial in Australia for terrorism charges linked to Lahskar-e-Taiba. Nine Americans have already been convicted of LeT links.

Madrid bombings, Turkey bombings, Indonesia bombings all trace back to Pakistan. Your own former ISI chief Jaed Nasir gave a written affidavit to court on how the ISI gave material support to Jihadis from Chechnya to Bosnia during his term.

All these terrors links are not from America alone. It is from nations that opposed the Iraq war too.

Get used to it bachu. Today, Pakistan = Terrorism. So what if Musharraf bends over for Unkil.