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Lesbians vs. Gays vs. Hinduism vs. Modernity?

Farzana Versey June 21, 2004

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#148 Posted by nikki7777 on June 24, 2004 5:14:37 pm
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#147 Posted by rahul_capri on June 24, 2004 4:20:23 pm
An article by Nivedita Menon-
indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=39566



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#146 Posted by jang on June 24, 2004 3:20:42 pm
concerned
``you can replace the words `sai baba` in the above narration with any religious figure and the outcome is likely to be the same, or in some cases, worse``

yeah stuka, try saying bad stuff about a sikh guru for a trial, and you wont be surprised ;-)
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#145 Posted by gujjubania on June 24, 2004 3:20:41 pm
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#144 Posted by concerned1 on June 24, 2004 2:07:39 pm
just for confirmation of my #113.

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2004/jun/16dev.htm

The first protest against Govind Nihalani`s film Dev has risen from Gujarat...

Sandeep Chandrasinh Revre, a resident of Rajkot, has filed a case in a Rajkot court against Nihalani for making a film that threatens to ignite communal clashes between two communities...

According to Revre and his counsel Kamlesh Shah, there are many dialogues and scenes in Dev which are sure to hurt the feelings of Hindus as well as Muslims. Some of these dialogues and scenes are so sensitive that they may do great harm to their faith and respect for their respective religions, the petitioners claim.

In response to Revre`s petition, Civil Judge D J Shah has issued a notice to Nihalani, asking him to be present in the Rajkot court on Friday, June 18.

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#143 Posted by dullabhatti on June 24, 2004 1:27:53 pm
KS#116: I missed this post earlier. I know there were men in our region who looked very wimpy and some times acted very feminine..they were ridiculed by most other ``real`` en insinuating things and spreading rumours about them.....not many may be 2 or 3 in the whole village of 5000 people...I don`t remember anything about chichi paalish thingie.
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#142 Posted by dullabhatti on June 24, 2004 1:22:38 pm
KS#116: I missed this post earlier. I know there were men in our region who looked very wimpy and some times acted very feminine..they were ridiculed by most other ``real`` en insinuating things and spreading rumours about them.....not many may be 2 or 3 in the whole village of 5000 people...I don`t remember anything about chichi paalish thingie.
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#141 Posted by concerned1 on June 24, 2004 1:22:37 pm
stuka,

[...I have noticed generally that followers of Sai Baba are pretty sensitive. This gora housing agent in Boston once refused to show me homes because he found out I was Indian and asked me my opinion on the guy and I said he was a fraud...]

you can replace the words `sai baba` in the above narration with any religious figure and the outcome is likely to be the same, or in some cases, worse.

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#140 Posted by nooralain on June 24, 2004 12:50:01 pm
indeed chowk needs intelligent folk to label others as scum, call women moronic and low-class, make personal pointed comments about their sexual lives, refer to certain people at chowk as islamic fascists, question people`s patriotism, label people as pond scum and worse, go on the rampage on our mothers and sisters and on many many many an occasion have not a grip, or a clue.

i love chowk and i say yeeeeaaaaaah boooooy! bring on the noise! bring it on!!!!
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#139 Posted by Ralph on June 24, 2004 12:34:47 pm
rsridhar

I don`t share your views on S Baba, but Chowk needs you far more than it needs Farzana. Look forward to reading many more of your posts.
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#138 Posted by stuka on June 24, 2004 12:21:35 pm
I have noticed generally that followers of Sai Baba are pretty sensitive. This gora housing agent in Boston once refused to show me homes because he found out I was Indian and asked me my opinion on the guy and I said he was a fraud.
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#137 Posted by nooralain on June 24, 2004 11:53:01 am
More than whiny homosexual adults or whiny straight adults who are clogging the airways, it is vulnerable children who desperately need to be protected from sexually-saturated media, society and adult agendas, and their right to a normal childhood of normal length needs to be protected

i agree!
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#136 Posted by sadna on June 24, 2004 11:37:48 am
I have an insurmountable aversion to crass displays of homosexuality( and an inbuilt aversion to crass displays of other kinds too).

But prima facie, I will never oppose the right of gays to be married legally. For a small piece of paper from what is their own government as well, it is not worth making a large number of people unhappy.

However the media propagation of homosexuality and normal sexuality among children to `catch them as early as possible` is another matter altogether.

More than whiny homosexual adults or whiny straight adults who are clogging the airways, it is vulnerable children who desperately need to be protected from sexually-saturated media, society and adult agendas, and their right to a normal childhood of normal length needs to be protected.

Hence my message to the self-absorbed adults on this thread is to collectively go take a running jump :).

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#135 Posted by AlephNull on June 24, 2004 11:37:17 am
rsridhar #128

I think you are taking Chowk way too seriously. The Chowk staff are no more infallible than any other group of human beings; they have some fairly obvious biases. It’s in the nature of things that you will disagree violently with their take on some matters just as you will disagree violently with some of mine. To leave in a huff because one of your posts was censored is a lamentable overreaction IMO. My outlook is very different from yours but I for one will miss you. In any case, I believe it’s quite possible to make a point if you have one, to land a solid punch, to skewer your adversaries while staying well within the ambit of what Chowk considers acceptable. All it takes is some care with language. Just my two cents …
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#134 Posted by jang on June 24, 2004 10:37:54 am
rsrhidhar

calm down. here is what the us consular bulletin says (unconfirmed allegations)

``U.S. citizens should be aware that there have been reports of inappropriate sexual behavior by a prominent local religious leader at an ashram or religious retreat located in Andhra Pradesh. Most of the reports indicate that the subjects of these approaches have been young male devotees, including a number of U.S. citizens. Although these reports are unconfirmed, U.S. citizens should be aware of this information and contact the U.S. Consulate General in Chennai for further information. ``

http://travel.state.gov/india.html

so take it up with them if you are for real and get it removed.
That way you will not be ``censured``.

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#133 Posted by kaurasach on June 24, 2004 10:37:54 am
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