An Alternative Blow to Terrorism

jang

I don`t think it is going on pretty well. Sudanese government will get away with the genocide of its own people in exchange for hunting the people (so called al-qiada etc) wanted by Americans; and it must be stopped by all means necessary. As a matter of principle I am against any government that uses state aparatus to murder and oppress its own people, be they Britons in Ireland, Indians in Kashmir, Sudanese in Darfur, or Na-Pak fauj in Wana. In a civilised world no state should have that kind of power. If today, people of Darfur or Wana demand an independence from their respective countries who oppress them, I will support the people.

urstruely

how is the liberation of black sudanese in balfour going? any heart-bleed for that?

#31 by stuka on June 29, 2004 3:35pm PT
That was a well articulated thesis! I agree!

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arjun_m #33
It appears to be a signal to the Pakistani government to end its support of Taliban insurgents which are killing Afghan and US soldiers as well Afghan civilians engaged in reconstruction and voter registration.

Americans have ``founded`` new mass graves in falluja football stadium

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terrorism as we see it are clearly foreign policies of certain small number of states. one of them was the taliban afganistan. the root cause is these misguided states (policies) which need to be made to understand not to support terrorist, and in a few years terrorism will end, at least cease to be a global thing. that is the root-cause that needs attention and constant vigil. its very plain and simple.

Labyrinth:

There are poor who fight. You are right about Naxalites and Maoists who fight for economic reasons. That does not however mean that all terrorism is driven by economic factors. The naxalites and others do not fight on the basis of religion or caste but on the basis of economic class.

A good topic for you to study would be the terrorism that existed in Punjab through the 1980s and early 90s. The Sikhs are amongst the most prosperous of communities. Though they are 2% of the population they hold a much higher share of government jobs and also have a more prosperous economic basis. The militancy was dominated by Jatt Sikhs who are more well off then landless and mazhabi Sikhs who are converted choodas.

The basis of their alienation was not economic, it was identity driven and expressed through religion. In essence it was a civilizational conflict between Sikh orthodoxy versus percieved Brahmin enroachment. I suspect that Al Qaeda is driven by similar factors, not an economic conflict but one driven by fear of identity being subsumed by the west. I am not bundling all Moslem grievances under this one umbrella. Palestine for example is a specific territory based issue. Kashmir is a combination of identity as well as political victimization by the Indian state but has morphed into a civilizational battle due to external factors. Al Qaeda specifically though ties together disparate elements of the Moslem world which see the conflict in ideological and therefore civilizational terms.

stuka #27
`` The deaths of civillians that take place when terrorists throw grenades in market places are never mentioned. ``

Agreed. Nor the cases where Kashmiri Muslims are killed in targetted killings by terrorists. How people can claim to defend Islam by killing Muslims defies my understanding.

HP , when I wrote 1 percent -- I meant `people who are involved in terrorism `physically , people who finance them and people who support them indirectly` ; now I agree that its even less then .5 percent but come again when I say 1 % I mean `fraction of a minority` I am sorry was wrong about that ;
Arjun ( bhai) Indians ( hindus) who are poor have lost there will to fight the system and some of them do fight espesically in places like `Behar / Assam ) -- theres no one to recruit them into any organizatoin except (ISI) which attracts lot of ` poors believe me ` --

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Sadna:

The basic fact is that Muslim victims are okay when killed by Muslims. The oft repeated ``factoid`` about numbers killed in J&K are repeated as if Indians have benn the only ones doing the killing. The deaths of civillians that take place when terrorists throw grenades in market places are never mentioned.

Ralph #13
``Alas, when will Indian nation stop being politically correct and see what we are dealing with.``

Not politically correct, but wilfully and deliberately unheeding. I had earlier posted a list of beheadings in J&K in the last few years, more Muslim victims than Hindu, which were from press reports easily available to every one who cares to look.

But `secular` Indians (such as a famous female novelist who posed for photographs with Hamid Gul) prefer to celebrate and congratulate any one fighting the Indian state - whether ordinary Indians get beheaded or enviscerated in the process is beneath their notice and not the concern of their lofty idealogy, and in this they are in full agreement with the population across the Indo-Pak border. It takes French writers to write books on that subject.

arjun_m #23
`Islam in danger` is too lucrative a business to give up and as ballukhan points out the so-called moderates have made careers out of urging others to pay-off the jihadis, something like jihad`s front office.

We saw part of it in action recently - when the US does put in money and curriculums are changed/madrassas are registered, a even greater hue and cry of `Islam in danger` is raised, all corrective action is rolled back and the whole rigmarole of urging the US to pour in money begins again.

People really have a short memory. They forget that this alleged `handover of sovereignity` which americans are touting as the greatest feast of democracy ever in human history, was actually forced upon them by the old and already experienced european colonial powers, who would not even want to hear the word `Eye-rack`` from americans until americans provided a date when its forces would be leaving I-rack. Now imperialist media can toot its horns all it likes but fact remains that it wont stop beheadings and fiery deaths of women children and men in I-rack - occupation is the real evil. This evil must end first to stop the misery of humanity.