Shivam Vij July 2, 2004
#5 Posted by t_talwar on July 2, 2004 8:14:51 am
Shivam,
Excellent article. This tradition is a black spot on our society`s so called modern and educated face and worse part is that courts have to step in to stop something so obviously disgusting. Equally surprising is people`s (read well educated) support for raggingand their casual attitude towards this malice. This Such incidents leave a lasting impression on a young mind and as we are seeing now, encourages them to become ``better raggers`` ( worse animals) than their seniors. These are acts of sexually repressed cowards who take advantage of freshers.
Surprisingly, worse ragging cases happen in Engineering and Medical colleges where supposedly ``better`` students go.
Excellent article. This tradition is a black spot on our society`s so called modern and educated face and worse part is that courts have to step in to stop something so obviously disgusting. Equally surprising is people`s (read well educated) support for raggingand their casual attitude towards this malice. This Such incidents leave a lasting impression on a young mind and as we are seeing now, encourages them to become ``better raggers`` ( worse animals) than their seniors. These are acts of sexually repressed cowards who take advantage of freshers.
Surprisingly, worse ragging cases happen in Engineering and Medical colleges where supposedly ``better`` students go.
#4 Posted by MaheshG2 on July 2, 2004 7:48:51 am
I agree with the author. Ragging is a pointless that should be done away with.
#2, I have never become friends with any seniors who hurled abuses at me during ragging. I have no respect for them.
I haven`t ragged any of my juniors and treated them the way I wanted to be treated by my seniors.
#3 Posted by stuka on July 2, 2004 7:38:25 am
Ragging helps in taking the edge of freshers. It helps them blend into a team environment. I am ofcourse against excessive beating up of students that passes for ragging but find nothing wrong in a little bit of horseplay.
#2 Posted by zakazmi on July 2, 2004 7:21:18 am
I agree with some of your comments to a great extent when it comes to sexual raggaing. However i have to say that if done under some rules and regulations it can have positive effects. I myself come from a military background so i am speaking from my own experience of ragging. In Pakistan Military the following general rules apply:
1. No touching while ragging
2. No abusive language which targets anyone other than the person ragged i.e family etc
3. No targeting personal beliefs i.e. religion
Also if properly ragged then it has benefits. Ragging just for the sake of ragging is of literally no use at all. However it serves as a great tool for military purposes, i.e. brainwash the person and mold his mind for the army life. As Shivam says that it makes one not strong but sensless so little things don`t effect him. Well that is true, military requires a tough mind.
I myself agree with the fact that ragging brought me closer to my course mates and to my seniors, those who ragged me became my close friends.
However this is all useful if this thing happens in a controlled environment as in Military where deviation from these rules can even in some cases result in whitdrawl from the Army hence it is very very closely monitored.
On the other hand it if applied in a civilian environment i.e. non military, i personally think it is of no use and can be a very traumatic experience as it only comes out as Rule of The Jungle i.e. No Rules. Hence i think it should be stopped in those cases. But i know as well as any one else this is not going to happen tomorrow.
1. No touching while ragging
2. No abusive language which targets anyone other than the person ragged i.e family etc
3. No targeting personal beliefs i.e. religion
Also if properly ragged then it has benefits. Ragging just for the sake of ragging is of literally no use at all. However it serves as a great tool for military purposes, i.e. brainwash the person and mold his mind for the army life. As Shivam says that it makes one not strong but sensless so little things don`t effect him. Well that is true, military requires a tough mind.
I myself agree with the fact that ragging brought me closer to my course mates and to my seniors, those who ragged me became my close friends.
However this is all useful if this thing happens in a controlled environment as in Military where deviation from these rules can even in some cases result in whitdrawl from the Army hence it is very very closely monitored.
On the other hand it if applied in a civilian environment i.e. non military, i personally think it is of no use and can be a very traumatic experience as it only comes out as Rule of The Jungle i.e. No Rules. Hence i think it should be stopped in those cases. But i know as well as any one else this is not going to happen tomorrow.
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