The Mullah and the Munir Report
Yasser Latif Hamdani July 11, 2004
#178 Posted by teshah on October 27, 2007 5:45:41 pm
Re: # 177
A correction:
Please read 'are' after Mullah in the 5th line.
A correction:
Please read 'are' after Mullah in the 5th line.
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#177 Posted by teshah on October 17, 2007 6:20:20 pm
Thanks for refreshing our memories. MIR is a classic indeed which must be publicized widely, preferably, in Urdu. It is pity that this report was sold away in 'raddi' and the bigoted Mullah playing havoc with the nation. Benazir is on the media rampage but no body asks her how she can talk about ZAB, democracy and the constitution in the same breath when it was ZAB who had converted the constitution into a 'Fatwa'
declaring a section of the citizens of Pakistan as 'non-muslim' to appease the Mullah who are now clamouring for a similar fatwa against the Shias.
declaring a section of the citizens of Pakistan as 'non-muslim' to appease the Mullah who are now clamouring for a similar fatwa against the Shias.
#176 Posted by EinZeitgeist on March 12, 2005 8:46:40 am
Bravo! Yasser its ppl like you who can do something worthwhile for all of us. For once I have seen some one referring to Justice Munir, without abuses and accusations. Yes, Justice Munir is some one, whom we haven`t studied beyond Moulvi Tamizuddin. May I just add here, The Commission formed immediately after the Qadiani movement, was headede by Justice Munir. The definition of a `musalman` was inquired from Maulana Maudoodi. No definite meaning could be attrributed to the concept of a `musalman`. It is matter of record, anyone diclaiming it can always refer to the Commission report.
As far the `macabre moster`. Its only the harvest which we sowed, through state machinery, and accepted by the society. We have to reap it.
As far the `macabre moster`. Its only the harvest which we sowed, through state machinery, and accepted by the society. We have to reap it.
#175 Posted by HaroonEllahi on October 5, 2004 1:06:37 pm
err I don`t know. this country is screwed.
#174 Posted by teshah on August 5, 2004 6:24:47 pm
170 by haroonellahi
Excuse me you are talking irrelevant. What do you mean by population awareness? Rulers talk of development but only in the number of donkeys not human beings. This is like a quack `hakeem` who advises you not to use all good things of life to get well. See America. There were only a few lacs of red Indians who were living a happy primtive life in the pre-Columbus America. The popuation of U.S.A. alone is now about 30 crores and they feed the whole world. In Pakistan most thinly ppulated province Balochistan is the poorest one. So the development is not related to the number of the people but their quality. So dear pseudo-Mulla don`t befool us. They want to stop proliferation of any kind in the `third world` because the Mullah have started producing `Khud kush` bombars which have neutralised the `Insan Kush` nukes of the west.
Excuse me you are talking irrelevant. What do you mean by population awareness? Rulers talk of development but only in the number of donkeys not human beings. This is like a quack `hakeem` who advises you not to use all good things of life to get well. See America. There were only a few lacs of red Indians who were living a happy primtive life in the pre-Columbus America. The popuation of U.S.A. alone is now about 30 crores and they feed the whole world. In Pakistan most thinly ppulated province Balochistan is the poorest one. So the development is not related to the number of the people but their quality. So dear pseudo-Mulla don`t befool us. They want to stop proliferation of any kind in the `third world` because the Mullah have started producing `Khud kush` bombars which have neutralised the `Insan Kush` nukes of the west.
#173 Posted by echoboom on July 19, 2004 9:30:03 pm
Haroonellahi:
It talks about a country where its police robs its citizens, the army takes its citizens pows, the doctors make the citizens sick, the teachers impart ignorance, the civil-servants rule, and the ``educated`` natives always take pride in acting alienish.
Have you an idea where such country is?
It talks about a country where its police robs its citizens, the army takes its citizens pows, the doctors make the citizens sick, the teachers impart ignorance, the civil-servants rule, and the ``educated`` natives always take pride in acting alienish.
Have you an idea where such country is?
#172 Posted by HaroonEllahi on July 19, 2004 7:00:52 am
I can`t read that urdu. Text is too small. What was the point of your post
#171 Posted by HaroonEllahi on July 18, 2004 9:31:59 pm
Support the Fauj... When Shaukat Aziz will be second in command his policies will greatly encourage economic growth. This will cause wealth to trickle down to the poor and rather unemployed. This will make people more happy with the system. now lets face it, even if you are a dirty drugs dealer and if you have the money you would want to send your childern to SCHOOL. so, with the advent of prosperity our people will automatically start sending their childern to schools. ( we need to ofcourse serve as catayalsts).
Once this takes place society will reform it self, the fauj will sooner or later have to leave, the neo-rockstar mullah establishment will be effectively marganilized and more tolerant Islamic Mullahs will come who will be true and not practice selective religion which the neo-rockstars do.
Only then will we be able to choose which way we as a society can move forward. But instead of doing boo-haha here, you can help. Firstly, if you have servants, tell them about Population awareness. They should try to limit their childern to 2. this way the standard of living will be higher. this is just one of the many million things you can do.
Also, if you really want to help, when you are not watching TV, using the computer or anything else UNPLUG it. it save alot of eletricity.
:)
Once this takes place society will reform it self, the fauj will sooner or later have to leave, the neo-rockstar mullah establishment will be effectively marganilized and more tolerant Islamic Mullahs will come who will be true and not practice selective religion which the neo-rockstars do.
Only then will we be able to choose which way we as a society can move forward. But instead of doing boo-haha here, you can help. Firstly, if you have servants, tell them about Population awareness. They should try to limit their childern to 2. this way the standard of living will be higher. this is just one of the many million things you can do.
Also, if you really want to help, when you are not watching TV, using the computer or anything else UNPLUG it. it save alot of eletricity.
:)
#170 Posted by echoboom on July 18, 2004 9:31:59 pm
MULLAH is & never was even an issue. It is the TULLAH* ( the uniformed ones) who is the issue.
If you feel secure, sleeep well, move-around with `class` & pseudo-respectability you must be one of the looters, dacoits or the salaried one--corrupt and corrupting kind with sharaabi, kanjaRR, or haraamee ``connections``.
Crime in the Islamic republic of Pakistan is of four kind: White Collar, Blue Collar, Black Collar AND Amreekee Collar (for biped canines).
* Policemen & now-faujees are called esp. in karachi.
If you feel secure, sleeep well, move-around with `class` & pseudo-respectability you must be one of the looters, dacoits or the salaried one--corrupt and corrupting kind with sharaabi, kanjaRR, or haraamee ``connections``.
Crime in the Islamic republic of Pakistan is of four kind: White Collar, Blue Collar, Black Collar AND Amreekee Collar (for biped canines).
* Policemen & now-faujees are called esp. in karachi.
#169 Posted by teshah on July 17, 2004 10:56:49 pm
Iqbal is stated to have called Ahmadies traitors to Islam and India. But what he said about the Mullah in one of his urdu couplets: -
``Deen-e-mullah fi sabeelillah fassaad`
It is therefore more justified to declare the mullah as a non-muslim minority when their `Deen` according to Allama Iqbal Rehmatullah is `Deen-e- Fassaad`, the very antithesis to Islam and their `Kalima` is `Khuda ki khudai khatam, Nabi ki nabuwat khatam, insan ki insaniat khatam, mullah ki mullah gardi zinda baad`. But the tragedy is we have now to choose only between the `Fouj gardi` and the `Mullah gardi`, apparently the only viable political forces on the ground in Pakistan.
``Deen-e-mullah fi sabeelillah fassaad`
It is therefore more justified to declare the mullah as a non-muslim minority when their `Deen` according to Allama Iqbal Rehmatullah is `Deen-e- Fassaad`, the very antithesis to Islam and their `Kalima` is `Khuda ki khudai khatam, Nabi ki nabuwat khatam, insan ki insaniat khatam, mullah ki mullah gardi zinda baad`. But the tragedy is we have now to choose only between the `Fouj gardi` and the `Mullah gardi`, apparently the only viable political forces on the ground in Pakistan.
#166 Posted by AhmadBilal on July 16, 2004 10:14:15 pm
#162 by veeresh
Saudi Arabia remains a strong candidate for regime change. :) Thanks.
Saudi Arabia remains a strong candidate for regime change. :) Thanks.
#165 Posted by sattar2 on July 16, 2004 6:31:02 pm
heres a snapshot of rambling mullahs on this board as I leave the office for a glorious weekend (drum roll, please )
Urstruly continues to perform his heejRah naach around the issue hopes to befriend a two-bit crack whore who, for some perverted reason, reminds him of his house maid thinks Pakistan is a failed state because of Ahmadis continues to nurse childhood crushes on his cousins male and female as well as the maulana who taught him quran
MaududiLives and Malik99 quoted others to validate their own views. When asked to think on their own, went duh? and stopped posting. Believe that reason and thought are for evil white folks momin should only memorize Quran and beat women into observing purdah. Naturally inclined to bashing Ahmadis diligently carry lotta to workplace
Hellbound started out acting like a neutral party, later removed his mask and claimed ownership of Islam (shares this trait with tahmed). Frequently borrows lotta from Maududi and Malik blames the doctor for taking off too much when he was circumcised wants to persecute Ahamdis to get even with the society
escapist sincerely recommends idiotic books from mindless mullahs. Wanted to share lotta with hellbound, but was firmly told no claims mouthwash was invented by a jew, and resists using it (same for deodorant) wants to undergo circumcision again to renew his faith but does not trust the Ahmadi doctor in the nearby hospital
and the rest as they say is history
............................................... and ... I .... am .... outta .... here .... whhheeeee
#164 Posted by sattar2 on July 16, 2004 12:00:51 pm
So this is the truth about mullah Urstruly
.. he fails to substantiate his claims against Ahmadis. Such intellectual decay has become hallmark of the ummah in general. They lack ability to think and to reason and are left with blind faith, hatred, and violent tendencies. And these morons want to be in charge of running a country. Go figure
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) foretold that a time will come when scholars of his ummah will be the worst of Allahs creations which I presume includes children of prostitutes (here you go Urstruly I couldnt help nailing this back on you ). Clearly Urstruly and his mullahs fit this description. When it comes to intellectual integrity they are limping eunuchs men without manliness incestuous transvestites raised by two-bit whores
Some general comments
Its been over a hundred years and mullahs still struggle to find dirt on Ahmadis. All they have is rhetoric, innuendo, and claims that fall apart into the second round of dialogue. Their efforts to suppress the truth through violent persecution of Ahmadis has failed them and Ahmadi-Muslims have gone on the spread the message of the Promised Messiah of Islam all over the world.
This is something for the mullahs to ponder over three of your kings who took persecution of Ahmadis to new heights namely Faisal, Bhutto, and Zia were killed like animals by the Hand of Almighty. This fits with the model of prophethood and fanatics mentioned in Quran. Each and every time a prophet of Allah appears, the corrupt elements of the society start propaganda against him and his community this is followed by violent persecution but the community of Allahs prophets remain steadfast, shun violence, and continue to be bestowed with success at each juncture.
Word to the mullahs bring it on boys youll continue to fall flat on your faces just look at posts from Urstruly to see why
#163 Posted by sattar2 on July 16, 2004 12:00:51 pm
Escapist (#150) sorry not interested
I have read enough of your rambling mullahs who are only good at twisting facts and hiding the truth. Facts speak for themselves and the fact is that your mullahs have failed you miserably. Social, political, economic, and intellectual decay of the ummah adequately attests to this.
...so take this book from your mullah and shove it. Ask your local imam for help if needed ...
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